1. #34581
    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Once again, bait. Ukraine SAYS it happened in Romania, Romania itself denies that.
    Eh, I can very much see Romania not wanting to rock the boat over what is an accident anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    Btw not sure if it's true but I read somewhere that the Ukraine army recruits people everywhere and they even camp bars or other public places to fish for potential recruits. Not sure how this works but it sounds scary, is this a normal thing during war? Imagine going to the cinema and a muscular guy stops you in the street, "hey you, come over here, we will take you to Bakhmut now"
    It's normal for a country at war to call on every able person to do their duty, that's how it pretty much always was.

    (it's just that in recent times there really haven't been these kinds of territorial wars in Europe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    So a Russian Shahed drone fucking crashes INTO ROMANIA, and NATO still isn't going to inch?
    Are you so dense that you don't get that even if something like this happens it doesn't mean NATO will be involved until it's sorted out, I remember you said the EXACT same thing when it happened in Poland - do you have no memory at all? Maybe you should lay off drinking for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Eh, I can very much see Romania not wanting to rock the boat over what is an accident anyway.
    Then it should be no biggie to come forward with the evidence. If Romania is proven wrong after, then it's their shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    So you believe Romania over Ukraine here. From the same article, Ukraine said it's laughable to claim what Romania has, implying it's just because they don't want to fight Russia for a transgression.
    while it's probably true that they don't want to get into a fight with russia, I'm pretty sure they also don't want to send a message to russia that they're willing to lay down and be a doormat. if there had been a deliberate strike from russia they would probably have to say so since ignoring it would only invite more
    that suggests that it's either an accident or did not actually land in romania

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    russia stealing lunch money from kids to fund the war

    I also felt the wording hilarious...."life of a soldier is priceless". Well russia, you coulda fool me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia stealing lunch money from kids to fund the war

    I also felt the wording hilarious...."life of a soldier is priceless". Well russia, you coulda fool me!
    If it's priceless then a few rubles won't help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia stealing lunch money from kids to fund the war

    I also felt the wording hilarious...."life of a soldier is priceless". Well russia, you coulda fool me!
    Yo, where the fuck can I get this $1 pizza at, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Eh, I can very much see Romania not wanting to rock the boat over what is an accident anyway.
    You are basically saying Romania is afraid of Russia.

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    Pootin is going to be meeting with little Kim - reports are that he will be begging Kim for ammo and artillery to replace his decimated artillery corp. Kim knows how desperate pootin is and is expected to be demanding an exorbitant price for it.

    Meanwhile, russia has rushed its new 25th Combined Arms Army to the Luhansk region, despite the fact it was not meant to be ready until 2024, and being understaffed and with little to no training, and not even fully equipped.

    They are being rushed in so that the 41st CAA, whcih was there, can be rushed south to try and stem Ukraine's growing momentum and breakthrough of the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    You are basically saying Romania is afraid of Russia.
    No, Flarelaine is saying: why end the world over a single drone that unintentionally strayed onto NATO territory.

    Look if it was a deliberate attack it would be a totally different situation but right now it was an accident and those happen, as long as it doesn't become a common thing or, if it happens again, russia apologizes,I know, I know, fat chance but still, if it happens again and russia apologizes for being uncareful you won't see NATO rolling out.
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  11. #34591
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    You are basically saying Romania is afraid of Russia.
    Romania is afraid of getting the entire population of Moscow killed yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia stealing lunch money from kids to fund the war

    I also felt the wording hilarious...."life of a soldier is priceless". Well russia, you coulda fool me!
    The life of a soldier has to be worth something to put a price on it, after all

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    You are basically saying Romania is afraid of Russia.
    You are basically saying stupid shit on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    russia stealing lunch money from kids to fund the war

    I also felt the wording hilarious...."life of a soldier is priceless". Well russia, you coulda fool me!
    They're right though, you can put no price on them....almost like their worth is hard to add up, maybe even like there is no worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    You are basically saying Romania is afraid of Russia.
    No. I'm saying that anyone who had any experience in working for/at/with a large bureaucratic organisation (such as governments) knows there are things better overlooked because if you make a splash it will come back to you and drown you in unneccessary paperwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    No. I'm saying that anyone who had any experience in working for/at/with a large bureaucratic organisation (such as governments) knows there are things better overlooked because if you make a splash it will come back to you and drown you in unneccessary paperwork.
    Well now according to finnish sources Romania admitted "some parts fell on romanian soil". So at least that part is done. Doubt NATO will do anything major about it, like with Poland case.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2023-09-06/

    Sept 6 (Reuters) - Parts of a Russian drone fell on Romanian territory, Romanian defence minister Angel Tilvar said on Wednesday, the HotNews website reported citing Romanian broadcaster Antena 3 CNN.

    Ukraine said on Monday that Russian drones had detonated on the territory of NATO member Romania during an overnight air strike on a Ukrainian port across the Danube River, but Bucharest denied then its territory had been hit.

    "I confirm that pieces which might be the elements of a drone were found," Tilvar said, according to HotNews.

    He added the area was not evacuated because there was nothing to suggest that the parts posed a threat.

    The defense and foreign ministries along with President Iohannis Klaus had all denied reports of the drones detonating on Romanian territory and said Russian attacks did not cause a direct threat to Romanian territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Well now according to finnish sources Romania admitted "some parts fell on romanian soil". So at least that part is done. Doubt NATO will do anything major about it, like with Poland case.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2023-09-06/
    Yeah, as I said earlier, unless russia deliberately attacks or this is starting to happen too often, without apologies, I don't think NATO will start pewpewpewing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Yeah, as I said earlier, unless russia deliberately attacks or this is starting to happen too often, without apologies, I don't think NATO will start pewpewpewing.
    Declaring a war consisting of most military powers in the world is indeed not a simple GUNG-HO matter as some of our loonies believe it is.

    I do wish though that NATO would issue a warning about it happening again. Preventative measures may triumph over direct, sudden warfare. Or just do like Turkey did vs russian jet, outright intercept and destroy any unwelcome projectile/object in the territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Declaring a war consisting of most military powers in the world is indeed not a simple GUNG-HO matter as some of our loonies believe it is.

    I do wish though that NATO would issue a warning about it happening again. Preventative measures may triumph over direct, sudden warfare. Or just do like Turkey did vs russian jet, outright intercept and destroy any unwelcome projectile/object in the territory.
    Romania is already a major location for missile interception. NATO could easily arrange a few batteries just across the river from Ukraine and declare anything that flies within 20 miles as incoming. I'm sure Ukraine would gracefully overlook these batteries firing into Ukrainian airspace.

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    The minimal and reasonable response should be air exclusion zone of anything Russia within 50km of any NATO border along Ukraine.
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