Russian invasion of Ukraine

[DarkTZeratul]

The headline says "Ukraine offensive could have only 30 days left - US Army chief".

Which isn't inaccurate, to be fair, but I guess absent the context of his statement it does kind of sound like what Vampiregenesis said.

[Vampiregenesis]

Because the weather will change and make an offense harder, can't you think or something?

he wouldn't make so defeatist statement in the middle of war, it's pretty clear that he means more than that

[Iphie]

he wouldn't make so defeatist statement in the middle of war, it's pretty clear that he means more than that

No, he doesn't. Quit scaremongering.

[Makabreska]

he wouldn't make so defeatist statement in the middle of war, it's pretty clear that he means more than that

It's pretty clear that time and time again you show here a weak understanding of reality.

[YUPPIE]

So some terrifying news not brought up here yet:

Kim Jong Un evidently visited Putin recently, as in he arrived in Russia to negotiate arms dealings. North Korea is now actively aiding Russia of no consequence, which in retrospect, is fucked up because my suspicions of that long ago were rebuked.

[Ausr]

So some terrifying news not brought up here yet:

Kim Jong Un evidently visited Putin recently, as in he arrived in Russia to negotiate arms dealings. North Korea is now actively aiding Russia of no consequence, which in retrospect, is fucked up because my suspicions of that long ago were rebuked.

What's so terrifying? You truly think a shithole nation like North Korea will be able to supply Russia with anything substantial?

This might terrify you too: It's going to snow soon. Go hide in your bunker.

[postman1782]

What's so terrifying? You truly think a shithole nation like North Korea will be able to supply Russia with anything substantial?

This might terrify you too: It's going to snow soon. Go hide in your bunker.

They gave Putin some artillery shells, but the Russians didn't have the right vehicles or cannons to shoot them.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wire...20to%20do%20so.

[Triceron]

With their budget, Russia can afford to (and I'm rounding up here) have about 400 actually operational nuclear warheads, and that is *snickers* assuming that none *snorts* of the budgeted money is embez... hahahahahahahaha

You get the point I hope.

Yes but that chart is showing averages of what would be during non-war situations.

Once you're in a war, shit changes, and the budgets aren't going to be the same. If they chose to make a push, then the budget and the '# they can afford if they pay the average' doesn't mean much if they pull resources from something else to cover the cost. That's kind of the problem of trying to use statistics to account for outlier situations, like times of war.

[Corvus]

And north Koreans artillery shells are unreliable even by russian standards. Remember when NK shelled a SK island a few years back, killing 4 people? Reportedly those shells had up to a 40% failure rate.

[Santti]

So some terrifying news not brought up here yet:

Kim Jong Un evidently visited Putin recently, as in he arrived in Russia to negotiate arms dealings. North Korea is now actively aiding Russia of no consequence, which in retrospect, is fucked up because my suspicions of that long ago were rebuked.

Not all that terrifying. Just utterly humiliating for Russia.

Whatever NK can deliver to Russia, will not make much of a difference. NK is a shithole of a country that doesn't have anything substantial to give. Even cheap labor is something Russia can supply itself. All of their stuff is old WW2 or Cold War era crap, and not a lot of it, and likely in worse shape than Russia's shit. And that's assuming that whatever they could possibly give is even compatible with what Russia has.

Seriously, NK is not a major contender despite what video games might have taught you. They can't help Russia, no matter how much they tried.

[postman1782]

And north Koreans artillery shells are unreliable even by russian standards. Remember when NK shelled a SK island a few years back, killing 4 people? Reportedly those shells had up to a 40% failure rate.

Not surprising.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

And north Koreans artillery shells are unreliable even by russian standards. Remember when NK shelled a SK island a few years back, killing 4 people? Reportedly those shells had up to a 40% failure rate.

I wouldn't be surprised they still fire shells from the Korean war and that they are the same shells Russia is buying.

[Elder Millennial]

Some TERRIFYING news! Vladimir Putin woke up and spilled his coffee.

Yuppie.

[draynay]

So some terrifying news not brought up here yet:

Kim Jong Un evidently visited Putin recently, as in he arrived in Russia to negotiate arms dealings. North Korea is now actively aiding Russia of no consequence, which in retrospect, is fucked up because my suspicions of that long ago were rebuked.

You really need to spoiler tag these horrors, people might glance at them and scream aloud in a public place, you know, since it's so terrifying.

[Corvus]

Sad Horse, I mean Lavrov, is acting proud that India is taking them to the cleaners. I guess he has no chose but to put a long face, I mean a brave face on it.

India has russia over a barrel when it comes to oil. russia needs India to buy the oil just to keep the industry running. India has other options for oil. Which means India dictates the terms. Not only are they getting it at a discount but they insist they pay for it in rupees. russia doesn't want rupees but they have no other choice. So they get rupees.

Problem is that due to India's currency restrictions, they can't really get the rupees they own out of India. The rupee isn't exactly desirable so they can't convert large amounts of it without loosing a bundle on the deal. The only thing they can do with the rupees are spend them in India.

Next problem is that India is observing the sanctions as they don't want to run into problems with the West and India doesn't have a lot that russia needs. Even if they do, Indian companies want to be paid in USD or Euros, not rupees.

So India offers russia the chance to invest money it desperately needs for its economy but is trapped in India, inside India. Where it will just earn more rupees that can't get out of India anyway.

Basically russia is shipping oil to India for free as any proceeds can't leave the Indian economy and actually boost it.

And Lavrov is proud of this.

[Kaleredar]

Sad Horse, I mean Lavrov, is acting proud that India is taking them to the cleaners. I guess he has no chose but to put a long face, I mean a brave face on it.

India has russia over a barrel when it comes to oil. russia needs India to buy the oil just to keep the industry running. India has other options for oil. Which means India dictates the terms. Not only are they getting it at a discount but they insist they pay for it in rupees. russia doesn't want rupees but they have no other choice. So they get rupees.

Problem is that due to India's currency restrictions, they can't really get the rupees they own out of India. The rupee isn't exactly desirable so they can't convert large amounts of it without loosing a bundle on the deal. The only thing they can do with the rupees are spend them in India.

Next problem is that India is observing the sanctions as they don't want to run into problems with the West and India doesn't have a lot that russia needs. Even if they do, Indian companies want to be paid in USD or Euros, not rupees.

So India offers russia the chance to invest money it desperately needs for its economy but is trapped in India, inside India. Where it will just earn more rupees that can't get out of India anyway.

Basically russia is shipping oil to India for free as any proceeds can't leave the Indian economy and actually boost it.

And Lavrov is proud of this.

I can only further wonder how this factors into China's plans, vis-a-vis Russia basically unilaterally funding one of their regional geopolitical rivals in the form of India.

[Masark]

And north Koreans artillery shells are unreliable even by russian standards. Remember when NK shelled a SK island a few years back, killing 4 people? Reportedly those shells had up to a 40% failure rate.

Though that would still be an annoyance for Ukraine, having to deal with a bunch of unexploded ordinance being scattered around.

[Gabriel]

Yes but that chart is showing averages of what would be during non-war situations.

Once you're in a war, shit changes, and the budgets aren't going to be the same. If they chose to make a push, then the budget and the '# they can afford if they pay the average' doesn't mean much if they pull resources from something else to cover the cost. That's kind of the problem of trying to use statistics to account for outlier situations, like times of war.

Yeah Russia, the bastion of high technology, will just pull functional nukes out of its ass without money. Yes absolutely.

[Twdft]

Though that would still be an annoyance for Ukraine, having to deal with a bunch of unexploded ordinance being scattered around.

We still have evacuations to depose of unexploded WWII shells found on construction sites in Germany. This shit will never go away.

[diller]

So some terrifying news not brought up here yet:

Kim Jong Un evidently visited Putin recently, as in he arrived in Russia to negotiate arms dealings. North Korea is now actively aiding Russia of no consequence, which in retrospect, is fucked up because my suspicions of that long ago were rebuked.

TERRIFYING... I tell you... it's horrible.