Russian invasion of Ukraine

[shimerra]

@YUPPIE

NK's most recent military parade had them using modified farm equipment dragging outdated tech. Meanwhile Ukraine is being supplied with tech from the world's most advance militaries. Haven't even addressed the logistical and manpower difficulties Russia is having/will have to even get the stuff to Ukraine.

Russia is doing the equivalent of asking a homeless man to give you a loan to buy a house. The only scary part is that in Russia's case the homeless man actually has leverage over them because they're so desperate. A world superpower groveling to NK for whatever left over cold war scraps Russia themselves likely sold to them to fight A1-Abrams tanks? Ooooh so scared.

[ItsRainingMetal]

@YUPPIE

NK's most recent military parade had them using modified farm equipment dragging outdated tech. Meanwhile Ukraine is being supplied with tech from the world's most advance militaries. Haven't even addressed the logistical and manpower difficulties Russia is having/will have to even get the stuff to Ukraine.

Russia is doing the equivalent of asking a homeless man to give you a loan to buy a house. The only scary part is that in Russia's case the homeless man actually has leverage over them because they're so desperate. A world superpower groveling to NK for whatever left over cold war scraps Russia themselves likely sold to them to fight A1-Abrams tanks? Ooooh so scared.

At this point I think it's probably a bit of a stretch to call Russia a world superpower.

[ghotihook]

At this point I think it's probably a bit of a stretch to call Russia a world superpower.

They aren't and haven't been since the Soviet Union. There is currently only one "Superpower" nation in the world right now.

Hell, even categorizing them as a "Great Power" nation seems like and overestimate at this time...

[Ivanstone]

Russia is doing the equivalent of asking a homeless man to give you a loan to buy a house. The only scary part is that in Russia's case the homeless man actually has leverage over them because they're so desperate. A world superpower groveling to NK for whatever left over cold war scraps Russia themselves likely sold to them to fight A1-Abrams tanks? Ooooh so scared.

Dude that's a little unfair.

North Korea has a house. Ok, its a shack with dirt floors and a leaky roof. At least they have a separate outhouse and a functional well! They just have to remember to watch out for poisonous spiders in the former and the latter might have lead leaching into it but its progress right?

[Saradain]

No fucking clue if this is anything given the weird but only source I found so far:

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-poland...russia-1825900

Masked assailants in Belarusian uniforms used slingshots and threw stones at NATO member Poland's border guards, Polish authorities have said, as tensions between the two neighboring countries show few signs of abating.

A group of seven people donning Belarusian uniforms "with masked faces" threw stones at Polish patrols around the north-eastern Polish border town of Dubicze Cerkiewne on Saturday, the country's Border Guard said on Sunday.

The masked group "had slingshots and flashlights with which they blinded patrols" at around 9 p.m., staying on the Belarusian side of the border, the Border Guard added. A "special vehicle" arrived at the location, and no one was injured, the Border Guard said. Newsweek has reached out to Minsk's Foreign Ministry for comment via email.

Finnish papers reported about Newsweek article...

[Iphie]

No fucking clue if this is anything given the weird but only source I found so far:

https://www.newsweek.com/nato-poland...russia-1825900



Finnish papers reported about Newsweek article...

Art. 5!!!

Seriously though, wth? This is kinda hilarious.

[Saradain]

Art. 5!!!

Seriously though, wth? This is kinda hilarious.

The technological pinnacle of both countries. Polish soldiers with far more modern looking NATO standardized gear. And belarussian vatniks armed with rocks and slings.

Although yes, pro-russian bots posting in comment sections of finnish papers do try to test "NATO integrity" by calling Article 5 in question.

But if few guys going to troll at the border counts as an invasion supported by the goverment...I have few ideas in mind how to plunge the world into chaos.

[Shadowferal]

[Gigantique]

It's like they think Art. 5 is something NATO is chomping at the bit to invoke because we're that bloodthirsty.

You know, instead of the defense pact it actually is. A few vatnika chucking rocks at the border hardly qualifies to have NATO descend upon them, just have the border guards have safeties off next time and that problem goes away on its own.

[YUPPIE]

NATO will never invoke Article 5. Hypothetically, if a Russian set foot on NATO soil and shot a civilian in the face and screamed "for mother Russia" they would still go as far as to deem that as a rogue action than something the Kremlin instigated.

So I would never hope for or get excited over NATO intervention. They just exist and that's it.

[Forogil]

Not all that terrifying. Just utterly humiliating for Russia.

Yes.

Seriously, NK is not a major contender despite what video games might have taught you. They can't help Russia, no matter how much they tried.

I am not concerned with NK helping Russia (as you say), but Russia helping NK is more problematic - as Kim Fatty the Third might be crazy enough to attack.

[Saradain]

NATO will never invoke Article 5. Hypothetically, if a Russian set foot on NATO soil and shot a civilian in the face and screamed "for mother Russia" they would still go as far as to deem that as a rogue action than something the Kremlin instigated.

So I would never hope for or get excited over NATO intervention. They just exist and that's it.

Yes because 1 guy is not a declaration of war despite what you think and hope to happen. Can you stop posting entirely if you can't say anything clever?

[Calfredd]

So I would never hope for or get excited over

You've been hot and bothe- I mean, excited since Russia first took action.

[Santti]

I am not concerned with NK helping Russia (as you say), but Russia helping NK is more problematic - as Kim Fatty the Third might be crazy enough to attack.

For sure, though I'm not so sure how Russia could help NK right now, either. They appear to be rather all-in at this point. Doubt they have much more than simple firearms to give. Tanks and shit are getting cannibalized for spare parts. Definitely can't spare any men for anything.

I guess Russia could give resources like oil, food and clothing? Don't know if those are enough to start a war with, though.

[jonnysensible]

NK is more problematic - as Kim Fatty the Third might be crazy enough to attack.

100,000 soldiers with malnutrition cross the DMZ, several thousand die of covid within two weeks and the rest refuse to leave the local supermarket having discovered chocolate, coca cola and booze that isnt made of rice.

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I guess Russia could give resources like oil, food and clothing? Don't know if those are enough to start a war with, though.

fat kim needs food and fertilizer

[zealo]

For sure, though I'm not so sure how Russia could help NK right now, either. They appear to be rather all-in at this point. Doubt they have much more than simple firearms to give. Tanks and shit are getting cannibalized for spare parts. Definitely can't spare any men for anything.

I guess Russia could give resources like oil, food and clothing? Don't know if those are enough to start a war with, though.

Id say those exact things might actually be pretty helpful to the internal situation in NK all the same.

What little is leaking out about the state of things in NK indicates food shortages have gotten even more dire in recent times.

[YUPPIE]

You people are overlooking the threat NK actually poses.

Those missiles or bullets they still sell to Russia kill innocent people, as Russia loves to conduct terrorist attacks of no strategic value.

[Kallisto]

So Yuppie when are you volunteering?

[Poopymonster]

You people are overlooking the threat NK actually poses.

Those missiles or bullets they still sell to Russia kill innocent people if they work, as Russia loves to conduct terrorist attacks of no strategic value.

Fixed that for you.

The dud bullets will just end up with more dead Russians if their gun goes "Click" while they cosplay as an American High Schooler.

[YUPPIE]

Fixed that for you.

The dud bullets will just end up with more dead Russians if their gun goes "Click" while they cosplay as an American High Schooler.

Yes they work. Or at least, enough to fulfill those evil purposes through sheer supply.

If they didn't work enough, Russia would not be able to do what they have done or lasted as long in this war.

North Korea and Iran *are* threats, and their supplying of Russia should be punished or stopped, but the world is just letting it slide. Literally, the US just gave Iran 6 billion today back.