Russian invasion of Ukraine

[DarkTZeratul]

North Korea and Iran *are* threats, and their supplying of Russia should be punished or stopped, but the world is just letting it slide. Literally, the US just gave Iran 6 billion today back.

Are you still falling for that bullshit? That was Iran's money. We took it decades ago, and we were required to give it back. We don't get to just keep their money because their government sucks. That's not how it works.

[jonnysensible]

Are you still falling for that bullshit? That was Iran's money. We took it decades ago, and we were required to give it back. We don't get to just keep their money because their government sucks. That's not how it works.

*laughs in afghan*

[Calfredd]

You people are overlooking the threat NK actually poses.

Those missiles or bullets they still sell to Russia kill innocent people, as Russia loves to conduct terrorist attacks of no strategic value.

You already had your North Korea obsession phase you're not suppose to repeat them.

[YUPPIE]

You already had your North Korea obsession phase you're not suppose to repeat them.

BECAUSE Nk is now actively and provenly in this conflict and it's no longer speculation.

[Veggie50]

BECAUSE Nk is now actively and provenly in this conflict and it's no longer speculation.

Hush now, it’s time to go beddy bed for some sleepy sleep. There’s more fearmongering for you left tomorrow… who knows? Maybe Luxemburg will make a threat to Russia, giving you new material for “MAYOR ESCALATION”

[Santti]

BECAUSE Nk is now actively and provenly in this conflict and it's no longer speculation.

Sigh, you are not getting it.

It's not a question of whether they are in or not, but whether whatever help they can offer actually means anything. It's not like NK is swimming in usable ammunition and weaponry they can just give away, especially when they themselves are locked in seemingly eternal feud with SK.

NK is not the superpower you make it out to be. Stop obsessing over them.

[Corvus]

Fires in the Sevastopol shipyards after something hit it.

Guess muskrat is sad he couldn't prevent NOOCLEAR APOKALYSE! this time.

[postman1782]

BECAUSE Nk is now actively and provenly in this conflict and it's no longer speculation.

They have been for months, they gave munitions 6 months ago.

[Calfredd]

BECAUSE Nk is now actively and provenly in this conflict and it's no longer speculation.

Oh no! North Korea is giving Russia a bunch of rocks and sticks?! Might as well be anyway.

[Corvus]

The strike and fires at Sevastopol have been geolocated to the drydocks, where it is known a landing ship and a Kilo class submarine were.

I'm just hoping Ukraine managed to sink a russian submarine on land.

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No word on the Kilo yet, but the russians seem happy to let us know the Ropucha class LST is pretty badly mangled.

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russia's version of events is that Ukraine launched 3 boats and 10 missiles, but heroic russian defenders shot down 7 missiles and all boats. Those last 3 missiles set the docks ablaze and damaged 2 vessels under repair.

Given video of the attack shows more than 3 arrivals at the base, they probably didn't do much to stop the attack. Admitting the vessels were hit is something though - there were only 2 in the drydocks, which means both the LST and the sub were hit. Possibly the damage was so major they had no chance on covering it up.

[Iphie]

I'm just hoping Ukraine managed to sink a russian submarine on land.

I mean, given that this is a LAND WAR, it's hilarious how much of a pounding the russian black sea fleet has taken. "Sinking" a Kilo on land would be the icing on the cake.

EDIT:
Seeing reports of russian state media reporting on damage to the sub...which is the Rostov-on-Don.

[Deus Mortis]

The strike and fires at Sevastopol have been geolocated to the drydocks, where it is known a landing ship and a Kilo class submarine were.

I'm just hoping Ukraine managed to sink a russian submarine on land.

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No word on the Kilo yet, but the russians seem happy to let us know the Ropucha class LST is pretty badly mangled.

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russia's version of events is that Ukraine launched 3 boats and 10 missiles, but heroic russian defenders shot down 7 missiles and all boats. Those last 3 missiles set the docks ablaze and damaged 2 vessels under repair.

Given video of the attack shows more than 3 arrivals at the base, they probably didn't do much to stop the attack. Admitting the vessels were hit is something though - there were only 2 in the drydocks, which means both the LST and the sub were hit. Possibly the damage was so major they had no chance on covering it up.

That will buff out Hope to wake up to images of a floating sub tomorrow.

[Iphie]

At the same time, OSINT analyst Oliver Alexander claims a Kilo-class submarine and Ropucha-class landing ship were seen going up in flames in the shipyard’s dry dock.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato...ed-crimea.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=3c8f05577795

https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/rus...s-hit-3770a81b

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...37034841575726

Looks like the kilo definitely is out for the foreseeable future.

[Flarelaine]

100,000 soldiers with malnutrition cross the DMZ, several thousand die of covid within two weeks and the rest refuse to leave the local supermarket having discovered chocolate, coca cola and booze that isnt made of rice.

North Korea has an oversized - as in insane - amount of artillery, most of it trained and sighted on Seoul, and it is commonly accepted that at least some use chemical/biological agents. A city of 8 million people and half of South Korea's GDP could be wiped off the map early in the conflict.

They could not win a war - not without China, anyway - but they can cause grievious harm and any retaliation would be small consolation, which is why they are being treated with kid gloves.

[Nymrohd]

North Korea has an oversized - as in insane - amount of artillery, most of it trained and sighted on Seoul, and it is commonly accepted that at least some use chemical/biological agents. A city of 8 million people and half of South Korea's GDP could be wiped off the map early in the conflict.

They could not win a war - not without China, anyway - but they can cause grievious harm and any retaliation would be small consolation, which is why they are being treated with kid gloves.

They also aren't actually creating issues for anyone other than their own people.

[jonnysensible]

the attack on Sevastopol, pearl harbor as elon musk called it. escalation, let the nukes fly!!

[YUPPIE]

It's hard to put in all at once due to how it's trending, but as the poster above implied, Ukraine has unleashed a rather terrifying attack on Crimea. Many Russians are injured, fatalities unknown, two warships destroyed.

Ukraine said it struck Russian naval targets and port infrastructure early on Wednesday in the Crimean city of Sevastopol, in what appeared to the biggest attack of the war on the home of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

"We confirm a large landing vessel and submarine were hit. We do not comment on the means (used) for the strike," Ukrainian military intelligence official Andriy Yusov told Reuters, giving no further details on the scale of the damage.

Russia's defence ministry said in statement that Ukraine had attacked a Black Sea shipyard with 10 cruise missiles and three uncrewed speedboats in the early hours of Wednesday, damaging two vessels that had been undergoing repairs.

[Gabriel]

The subs that were struck in the attack returned underwater under their own power.

[Corvus]

Laughably, russia is saying both damaged vessels will be repaired. After seeing a morning photo of the last, oryx has listed it destroyed. Repairing it would rebuilding from scratch.

The dockyard itself seems to have taken some serious damage, so mouthing is being fixed there anytime soon and there are some reports other ships may have suffered damage as well.

[Forogil]

North Korea has an oversized - as in insane - amount of artillery, most of it trained and sighted on Seoul, and it is commonly accepted that at least some use chemical/biological agents. A city of 8 million people and half of South Korea's GDP could be wiped off the map early in the conflict.

Just to indicate how insane the amount of artillery vehicles are in N. Korea I looked at https://www.globalfirepower.com/ (combining MLRS, towed and self-propelled stock - and obviously all numbers are inaccurate and it is hard to compare systems one-to-one):

• 115 France
• 244 The UK
• 305 Hungary
• 695 Poland
• 852 Finland
• 4,055 The USA
• 9,347 S. Korea
• 12,920 N. Korea
• 14,798 Russia (well, actual numbers are changing)

And Korea may also be significant for Ukraine - not the North, but the South. Notice that S. Korea isn't far behind N. Korea in raw numbers (and very likely superior in other ways).

So far S. Korea haven't been ready to support Ukraine, because there has been a fear that Russia could retaliate by helping N. Korea; leading to interesting ideas like "lending" artillery shells to the US https://www.reuters.com/world/south-...rt-2023-04-12/

However, if N. Korea and Russia gets closer it might cause S. Korea to re-evaluate that approach.