Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Ulmita]

Are you pretending you don't know about bot farms utilized by people such as chinese or russian? And precisely because Twitter is such a breeding ground for bots manipulating simple votes, you can stop pretending Twitter is a source of a shift of any kind except russian losing even more as the propaganda fills in.

But hey, thats your modus operandi like fucking always. Always misdirect, always "debunk" facts with Twitter polls.

Do answer my question though, when will you ask Russia to fuck off so this horrible war can start ending?

I have condemned multiple times in this very thread the invasion of Russia. Or do you want me to fly to Moscow and ask if Putin could see me to tell him to f*ck off?

[Saradain]

I have condemned multiple times in this very thread the invasion of Russia. Or do you want me to fly to Moscow and ask if Putin could see me to tell him to f*ck off?

But you still have to lie about NATO being in the shady poll of yours? The only way you want the war to end is to force Ukraine capitulate. Not once would you even dare to suggest that Russia is to blame as is the FACT. You sure like lying like russian cohorts are known from. I don't need you to fly to Moscow, although it'd help as you'd get to fight for your precious Russia instead of trolling in MMO-C trying to twist and manipulate even the most unreliable internet polls having options they do not.

You'll continue pretending Russia is stronk, how Russia is doing fine and are never losing, you'll continue to cry crocodile tears about peace that won't happen because of Russia, and Russia alone.

You can start your path to healthy life by stopping trolling, then find some russian telegram group to have your copium hookah den to gargle on Putin's dick.

[Elder Millennial]

This shows a major public opinion shift. Are we getting tired of this conflict?

No. It just shows that birds of a feather flock together. Fascists, conspiracy theorists, "America Bad" brain rotten morons etc.

The most successful effort so far to combat Russian propaganda which is mostly spread online, and especially on Twitter has been so far a decentralized grass roots movement broadly known as NAFO.

This speaks volumes about the fact that Western powers states still haven't figured out how to fix the institutional rot that was originally started by Rupert Murdoch and then propagated further by right wing interest groups that ruined our media and exploited the internet.

Fact is, we need a broad multi national effort to unfuck this, and having asshats like Musk hijacking a third of the internet is not sustainable.

[Fuiking]

Whatever someone says on X/Twitter, or Twatter as i call it, is about as truthful as what happens on Truth Social.. or whatever Ulmita tends to say.

If you have to use Twatter as a sign of changing feelings, your so fucking wrong Ulmita, thats like grasping for a tuft of grass after thumbling down the cliff. Halfway, on a unstable bit of rock.

[KrayZ33]

It's just some India-hivemind anyway.
Look at some of the other "statistics" - the most random shit is chosen, just so that they can type "India No.1"

They use data from 20 years ago as well.

i.e. "Hours spent reading per person per week"

India No1 with 10hours
A country where 25% of the population can't read.
And the survey is from 2003.

or:
Divorce rate

India: 1%
Portugal: 94%

Tell me someone wants to paint a certain picture without telling me someone wants to paint a certain picture.

[Gabriel]

Oi! @Ulmita! Since you are here, care to finally give us your analysis on the effectiveness of the S400 systems?

[Cynical Asshole]

So Russia is now drawing air planes on the ground to fool satellites.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ir-bases-apron

[DarkTZeratul]

So Russia is now drawing air planes on the ground to fool satellites.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ir-bases-apron

That's honestly not the worst idea in the world.

[NoiseTank13]

So Russia is now drawing air planes on the ground to fool satellites.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ir-bases-apron

This is a legit tactic, been done for ages.

[Corvus]

Lack of shadows being cast is a bit of a give away.

Plus modern military satellites are way more powerful than the commercial ones we see and they won't be fooled by paint.

[Azadina]

Seems like a far better idea, than stacking tires on wings.

[Nymrohd]

I don't know what exactly is going on as far as popular support is concerned but it will be troubling when the EU has now two members who will likely oppose every disbursement towards Ukraine while the US had to drop it out of the budget and will now fight to include it in separate funding. The Ukraine absolutely depends on foreign funds. And it is not just material and training, the EU in particular has focused on humanitarian aid which is just as important. I know you all love to bash the Russophiles and on principle I agree but acting as if there is no chance the West fucks this up for Ukraine is irresponsible. We have a history of fucking up allies.

[enigma77]

Seems like a far better idea, than stacking tires on wings.

The orcish race is advancing

[Elder Millennial]

I don't know what exactly is going on as far as popular support is concerned but it will be troubling when the EU has now two members who will likely oppose every disbursement towards Ukraine while the US had to drop it out of the budget and will now fight to include it in separate funding. The Ukraine absolutely depends on foreign funds. And it is not just material and training, the EU in particular has focused on humanitarian aid which is just as important. I know you all love to bash the Russophiles and on principle I agree but acting as if there is no chance the West fucks this up for Ukraine is irresponsible. We have a history of fucking up allies.

We absolutely have a chance to fuck this up.

The thing is, the lack of support we're seeing in Europe and the US are actually fundamentally different, although can produce identical outcomes. This is also notable in how Russian propaganda directed to the US media and directed to Europeans is different.

Painting the Ukrainians as the guilty party largely failed to move public opinion in the US, so the Russians largely stopped trying with that tactic. Instead the propaganda they are pushing in the US is more about appealing to the "It's none of our business, whatabout using that money at home." bullshit.

In Europe the narrative that seems to have landed better was "America/EU/NATO bad, they provoked Russia."

[Nymrohd]

In Europe the narrative that seems to have landed better was "America/EU/NATO bad, they provoked Russia."

In Europe the left is so hard wired to hate US and particularly NATO that propaganda is just extremely easy for them.

[Iphie]

In Europe the left is so hard wired to hate US and particularly NATO that propaganda is just extremely easy for them.

Well, that's a gross generalization...At least for the Netherlands it's mostly the far right who are pro-russia, the left not so much. In fact as far as I've heard in the last couple of years it's overall the right who is in bed with russia across Europe.

[Santti]

In Europe the left is so hard wired to hate US and particularly NATO that propaganda is just extremely easy for them.

I've no idea where you got that from, but I don't think that's true. At least not in here. I don't think people really "hate" US. Really glad we don't have to endure it's bullshit by having to live in there, but that's pretty much where that ends. People dislike Russia far, far more than US. That's for sure.

And opinions about NATO are quite favorable.

[Kallisto]

In Europe the left is so hard wired to hate US and particularly NATO that propaganda is just extremely easy for them.

Most of the European Left hate Russia because it is basically behind the far right surge in Europe. The only "Left" that's OK with Russia are tankies and everyone hates tankies.

[diller]

In Europe the left is so hard wired to hate US and particularly NATO that propaganda is just extremely easy for them.

I think this says more about your ideology than 'the left' since it's utter bullshit.

[Nymrohd]

I think this says more about your ideology than 'the left' since it's utter bullshit.

I am thinking you are all confusing the center left with the left. Europe has actually communist parties in almost every country.