Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

Trump winning would be an issue for a bit, but the EU would realise he would also abandon them when russia went after the Baltics so they would increase aid to Ukraine, for their own safety.

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Oryx put down 24 helicopters for the ATACMs strike, including 15 ka52s (7 destroyed, 8 damaged, with a note those damaged are probably beyond repair. ) that brings visually confirmed ka52 loses to 59. Given they were thought to only have around 100 operational ka52s to start with, they've now lost around 60% of them

[Cynical Asshole]

Trump winning would be an issue for a bit, but the EU would realise he would also abandon them when russia went after the Baltics so they would increase aid to Ukraine, for their own safety.

Yep. That's why I seriously doubt Trump will cut support. This is beyond his ego, this makes America look weak and also seriously endangers relations with its allies if America looks unreliable in an actual situation.

[Twdft]

Yep. That's why I seriously doubt Trump will cut support. This is beyond his ego, this makes America look weak and also seriously endangers relations with its allies if America looks unreliable in actual situation.

As if Trump cares about any of it. He doesn't even comprehend it.

[Iphie]

As if Trump cares about any of it. He doesn't even comprehend it.

He might not care about it, but the rest of the government might have something to say about it as well. There's a reason the republicans are very supportive of a law making it so that the president can't unilaterally withdraw from NATO.

[Gorsameth]

Pretty sure Congress would be able to pass a veto proof bill mandating that the DoD supplies Ukraine if it were needed.

[Voidism]

I can't see why Trump would be able to just stop all help to Ukraine despite the both chambers and the people are behind helping. Your president is not a dictator, unlike what Trump seems to think lol

[MCMLXXXII]

I can't see why Trump would be able to just stop all help to Ukraine despite the both chambers and the people are behind helping. Your president is not a dictator, unlike what Trump seems to think lol

You haven't heard of that thing called veto? And which party has control right now?

[Makabreska]

You haven't heard of that thing called veto? And which party has control right now?

Didn't Republicans block a 6 billion Ukraine aid few weeks ago, and are in general against further funding help? Wouldn't Trump just add to that?

[Voidism]

Didn't Republicans block a 6 billion Ukraine aid few weeks ago, and are in general against further funding help? Wouldn't Trump just add to that?

Biden is not bound by the chambers. He can just use the lend-lease that was approved, that he hasn't used at all yet.

But he won't use it unless something truly hits the shit.

Remember that the strategy is to wear down russia completely. Boil the frog. That's why it's relatively slow.

[Iphie]

Biden is not bound by the chambers. He can just use the lend-lease that was approved, that he hasn't used at all yet.

But he won't use it unless something truly hits the shit.

Remember that the strategy is to wear down russia completely. Boil the frog. That's why it's relatively slow.

Except that the Lend-lease act expired October 1st and there's this teeny-tiny problem of there being no Speaker to remedy that...

[Voidism]

Except that the Lend-lease act expired October 1st and there's this teeny-tiny problem of there being no Speaker to remedy that...

Ouch. I overlooked that.

But it was true up until October.

[Wilian]

Trump winning would be an issue for a bit, but the EU would realise he would also abandon them when russia went after the Baltics so they would increase aid to Ukraine, for their own safety.

The problem with this support is production. Despite grand speeches, promises and wishes for the future, European arms manufacturing has hardly picked up because for one reason or another countries do not seem to be willing to do long-term investments now beyond speaking of them and to be effective in the near future those investments should've been realized last year.

[Corvus]

The UK MoD have put out an updated estimate of russian losses. They are saying Russia has take 150,000 to 190,000 permanent casualties (dead or crippled) and 240,000 to 290,000 temporary casualties. Those numbers don't count Wagner or prisoners either.

[Iphie]

Orban growing closer to puutin

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán compared Hungary’s membership in the European Union to more than four decades of Soviet occupation of his country during a speech on Monday commemorating the anniversary of Hungary’s 1956 anti-Soviet revolution.

I mean, yes totally comparable...

In other news, the reports of a firmly established bridgehead on the eastern bank of the Dnipro are growing stronger. Not much in mainstream media but that would be logical given Ukraine's great Opsec discipline

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey...cy-2023-10-23/
Turkey's Erdogan submits Sweden's NATO bid to parliament for ratification, presidency says

ANKARA, Oct 23 (Reuters) - Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan on Monday submitted a bill approving Sweden's NATO membership bid to parliament for ratification, his office said, a move welcomed by Stockholm as it clears the way for it to join the Western defence alliance.

Erdogan pleased his NATO allies at a summit in July by promising to send the legislation to parliament when it reopened on Oct. 1, having previously raised objections over Sweden's alleged harbouring of individuals who Turkey says are members of terrorist groups.

Since parliament reopened, however, Turkish officials have repeatedly said Stockholm needed to take more concrete steps to clamp down on the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) militia before Ankara could ratify its membership bid. The PKK is deemed a terrorist organisation by Turkey, the European Union and the United States.

On Monday the bill on approving Sweden finally moved forward.

Good news. Still has to make its way through Hungary though.

[Cynical Asshole]

https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey...cy-2023-10-23/
Turkey's Erdogan submits Sweden's NATO bid to parliament for ratification, presidency says

Good news. Still has to make its way through Hungary though.

Hungary is a huge Putin shill. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

Erdogan was convinceable because Turkey is sorta neutral...despite having tendencies towards Putin as well.

[zealo]

Hungary is a huge Putin shill. So I wouldn't hold my breath.

Erdogan was convinceable because Turkey is sorta neutral...despite having tendencies towards Putin as well.

For all the bluster Hungary has put up, there’s been pretty much nothing coming forward from them in terms of actual demands in all this time.

It wont be long until that fat bastard in Hungary folds like a house of cards too.

[Iphie]

For all the bluster Hungary has put up, there’s been pretty much nothing coming forward from them in terms of actual demands in all this time.

It wont be long until that fat bastard in Hungary folds like a house of cards too.

With Orban's latest statements I'm surprised he's still in NATO and the EU...

[Kallisto]

With Orban's latest statements I'm surprised he's still in NATO and the EU...

Wants all the perks, but none of the responsibilities. Problem is there's no means to kick out Orban from both and he won't leave because it's too good a deal for him to remain in and cry about them.

[Elder Millennial]

With Orban's latest statements I'm surprised he's still in NATO and the EU...

This.



This is Hungary in the EU.