Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

The man has no heart, so it's hard to have a heart attack.

Almost certainly not true, but weirdly Peskov felt the need to deny it.

[Iphie]

The man has no heart, so it's hard to have a heart attack.

Almost certainly not true, but weirdly Peskov felt the need to deny it.

Wasn't it Bismarck who said something along the lines of: "Don't believe Russians unless it's been officially denied"? Meaning russians lie, but you'll know what is true by what they deny.

[Voidism]

https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey...cy-2023-10-23/
Turkey's Erdogan submits Sweden's NATO bid to parliament for ratification, presidency says

Good news. Still has to make its way through Hungary though.

I will not celebrate until we are actually in. I have grown cynical. >.<

[Iphie]

I will not celebrate until we are actually in. I have grown cynical. >.<

Apparently Hungary is now being a a little bitch. I so wish we could kick them out right now.

[enigma77]

Wasn't it Bismarck who said something along the lines of: "Don't believe Russians unless it's been officially denied"? Meaning russians lie, but you'll know what is true by what they deny.

Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.

Otto von Bismarck

[Corvus]

Reportedly there has been another atacms strike. russia claimed to have shot down 2, showing the remnants of the boosters which had crashed to earth after the payload separated.

Meanwhile those payloads hit their targets, which seem to have been 3 s-400 systems.

[Biglog]

Reportedly there has been another atacms strike. russia claimed to have shot down 2, showing the remnants of the boosters which had crashed to earth after the payload separated.

Meanwhile those payloads hit their targets, which seem to have been 3 s-400 systems.

It shows how flexible the truth is there that they'd claim they shot down 2 atacms "at the cost of 3 S-400s", and think that's a reasonable statement. They hit their targets, so they obviously weren't shot down. It would be like saying the Titanic successfully redirected an iceberg. Notable that these are also the oldest/earliest variants of the atacms that the US has, from 1992. If the S-400 can't handle those, not sure how they'd ever be able to down the 3 decade newer versions.

[Deus Mortis]

Reportedly there has been another atacms strike. russia claimed to have shot down 2, showing the remnants of the boosters which had crashed to earth after the payload separated.

Meanwhile those payloads hit their targets, which seem to have been 3 s-400 systems.

If they actually took out 3 of the s400 command posts and not just the launchers that would be huge.

[alach]

I don't think I really need to comment on this...

Russia-Ukraine war live: Russia executing soldiers who refuse to follow orders, White House says

‘Reprehensible’ move is a ‘symptom of how poorly Russia’s military leaders know they’re doing’, national security spokeperson says

And then,

The Russian ambassador to the US has criticised Washington for its latest round of support for Ukraine. Tass quotes Anatoly Antonov saying:

The provocative and inflammatory actions of the US in the international arena are more like adding fuel to the fire than efforts to counter the further incitement and spread of bloody conflicts.

It’s high time to stop senseless multi-billion dollar injections into the bankrupt Kyiv regime. Stop showing a disregard for the opinions of your citizens and indifference to the ever-new victims dying from American weapons.

Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, and the UN has so far recorded over 22,000 civilians casualties, including more than 7,000 deaths.

[Gabriel]

If they actually took out 3 of the s400 command posts and not just the launchers that would be huge.

The command posts returned to their elemental components under their own power.

[Iphie]

Seems China is being blamed for the gas pipeline damage. An anchor is the culprit according to the Finnish police.

[Corvus]

If they actually took out 3 of the s400 command posts and not just the launchers that would be huge.

Given each missiles drops 1000 frags over a wide area, it's a good chance they wrecked a lot of components.

[Wilian]

Seems China is being blamed for the gas pipeline damage. An anchor is the culprit according to the Finnish police.

China is not being blamed per se. The ship in question is registered in Hong Kong and the company in China but only identifiable matter about the ship is a website that is registered in Russia. Furthermore said ship only recently got an approval from Russia to use their arctic route to which the ship is unsuitable for due to its size and latest round of rumourfimation is that the ship's crew was replaced with primarily Russian one in Kaliningrad before departure to St. Petersburg and them from there to crack the gas pipe.

[Iphie]

China is not being blamed per se. The ship in question is registered in Hong Kong and the company in China but only identifiable matter about the ship is a website that is registered in Russia. Furthermore said ship only recently got an approval from Russia to use their arctic route to which the ship is unsuitable for due to its size and latest round of rumourfimation is that the ship's crew was replaced with primarily Russian one in Kaliningrad before departure to St. Petersburg and them from there to crack the gas pipe.

Fair, I should probably say: russia seems to have plausible deniability.

[Corvus]

russia increased its interest rates another 2% to 15%. Must be because of a strong economy.

[Huehuecoyotl]

russia increased its interest rates another 2% to 15%. Must be because of a strong economy.

Where is @Easo to tell us how this is all made up, and there totally isn't any inflation in Russia at the moment because of a coffee shop that hasn't changed its prices.

[Benggaul]

Where is @Easo to tell us how this is all made up, and there totally isn't any inflation in Russia at the moment because of a coffee shop that hasn't changed its prices.

Too busy telling people in another thread they don't know what they're talking about without grasping the irony.

[Iphie]

So...The Kremlin is forced to deny putin did a whoopsie and died of cancer eh?

Interesting...(mostly interesting because they go out of their way to deny it.)

Plenty of media reporting on the denial, but none are particularly, you know, reliable.

[Yunru]

So...The Kremlin is forced to deny putin did a whoopsie and died of cancer eh?

Interesting...(mostly interesting because they go out of their way to deny it.)

Plenty of media reporting on the denial, but none are particularly, you know, reliable.

Could be a body double.

[Voidism]

So...The Kremlin is forced to deny putin did a whoopsie and died of cancer eh?

Interesting...(mostly interesting because they go out of their way to deny it.)

Plenty of media reporting on the denial, but none are particularly, you know, reliable.

I think it's Kremlin wanting us to focus on putin's health because of the embarrassing defeat in Andriivka.

When he dies, his whole regime system collapses since he is the leader of it. There will be signs of this, obvious ones. There are no such signs atm.