Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Flarelaine]

Russia been rewriting history everywhere since the revolution, nothing new really.

Before that, even. Consider the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

[Iphie]

Before that, even. Consider the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Oh right...that was them and that led to other unpleasantness.

[Gabriel]

Before that, even. Consider the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

It blows my mind just how far the history of Russia manufacturing antisemitism actually goes.

[Iphie]

It blows my mind just how far the history of Russia manufacturing antisemitism actually goes.

In fairness to russia (I know, I know), Luther was also quite happily antisemitic, it's not a purely russian pastime. I'd say it used to be a favourite European hobby.

I mean, Dreyfuss affair in 1894 in France, pogroms in general eastern Europe, middle ages treatment of Jews...the list isn't pretty but it is long.

[Gabriel]

In fairness to russia (I know, I know), Luther was also quite happily antisemitic, it's not a purely russian pastime. I'd say it used to be a favourite European hobby.

I mean, Dreyfuss affair in 1894 in France, pogroms in general eastern Europe, middle ages treatment of Jews...the list isn't pretty but it is long.

Well pogroms were a thing of the Russian Empire, but I give you the others.

[zealo]

In fairness to russia (I know, I know), Luther was also quite happily antisemitic, it's not a purely russian pastime. I'd say it used to be a favourite European hobby.

I mean, Dreyfuss affair in 1894 in France, pogroms in general eastern Europe, middle ages treatment of Jews...the list isn't pretty but it is long.

Good example of this is also how it took the catholic church a whole 20 years after the holocaust to formally give up on the idea of jews being collectively responsible for the death of jesus, in perpetuity at that.

[Corvus]

russia raised interest rates again by another 1% to 16%, while still claiming inflation is at 7.5%.

Ironically that happened the day after Ukraine lowered theirs to 15%, so russia has higher interest rates than Ukraine.

[Edge-]

russia raised interest rates again by another 1% to 16%, while still claiming inflation is at 7.5%.

Ironically that happened the day after Ukraine lowered theirs to 15%, so russia has higher interest rates than Ukraine.

Genuinely curious about how the Russian economy is actually doing, because boy howdy I feel like I can feel the warmth from the books they're cooking.

[Makabreska]

Genuinely curious about how the Russian economy is actually doing, because boy howdy I feel like I can feel the warmth from the books they're cooking.

What I learned here all we need is to check prices of some pizza joints food in remote corners of Russia to get the real picture.

[Vankrys]

Genuinely curious about how the Russian economy is actually doing, because boy howdy I feel like I can feel the warmth from the books they're cooking.

The fact there are now food lines in Russia, for certain foods like eggs, is very reminiscent of USSR bread lines.

[Edge-]

The fact there are now food lines in Russia, for certain foods like eggs, is very reminiscent of USSR bread lines.

I'll caution at jumping to conclusions here: We basically had this in the US for a bit when our eggs went to like $20 a dozen or whatever and stores were limiting how many people could purchase at once.

That being said I'm very intrigued to see if anyone has the time and knowhow to check the prices of pizza joints in random corners of Russia, I like Makabreska's idea.

[DarkTZeratul]

I'll caution at jumping to conclusions here: We basically had this in the US for a bit when our eggs went to like $20 a dozen or whatever and stores were limiting how many people could purchase at once.

The difference is that was price-fixing by the egg companies, not a government mandate due to extreme supply shortages.

[MCMLXXXII]

I'll caution at jumping to conclusions here: We basically had this in the US for a bit when our eggs went to like $20 a dozen or whatever and stores were limiting how many people could purchase at once.

That being said I'm very intrigued to see if anyone has the time and knowhow to check the prices of pizza joints in random corners of Russia, I like Makabreska's idea.

We had such an expert in here recently. Avoided this thread like the plague for over a year and then came back boasting he paid the same for a pizza (or was it a burger) in Kalinigrad as before the "special operation". Might have something to do with fog and war.

[alach]

There was a video a couple weeks back of a local Russian from St. Petersburg (?) going on a tour of a supermarket showing the price of groceries.
The shelves were stocked and the prices were lower than what I have seen in parts of Europe. Rather infuriating honestly.
I pointed to the video in case anyone was interested, but folks were distracted by the lastest troll or something again.

Here it is



He has a very strong accent, hard for me to understand sometimes.

[Lahis]

Yeah...about that, that's not very likely to work very well. Nuclear weapons are still rather precise weapons you can't just pry one open and place the warhead into something else.

That's how they work in the West.

Nobody knows what kind of craptastic Soviet jank Russians have in their silos.

[Wilian]

There was a video a couple weeks back of a local Russian from St. Petersburg (?) going on a tour of a supermarket showing the price of groceries.
The shelves were stocked and the prices were lower than what I have seen in parts of Europe. Rather infuriating honestly.
I pointed to the video in case anyone was interested, but folks were distracted by the lastest troll or something again.

Here it is



He has a very strong accent, hard for me to understand sometimes.

The thing is, St. Petersburg is the sort of city Russia is propping up by intent. Its in their ethnic minority colonies of Asia and Siberia where the brunt of the economic downfall is felt in earnest. Large cities like Moscow and Russian ethnic majority regional settler capitals are artifically kept in better shape because those are the people that "matter" for Kremlin's politics.

[Shadowferal]

I once thought well of Leningrad. (St Petersburg)

[Iphie]

That's how they work in the West.

Nobody knows what kind of craptastic Soviet jank Russians have in their silos.

Fair enough, but I still don't think these things are just interchangeable. (Also the nuclear components are expensive and fetch a tidy sum on the black market.)

[Kallisto]

That's how they work in the West.

Nobody knows what kind of craptastic Soviet jank Russians have in their silos.

The thing is the West does know. Until a couple of years ago both Russia and USA had constant inspections of each other's arsenals. The consensus was they all were working.

[Benggaul]

The thing is the West does know. Until a couple of years ago both Russia and USA had constant inspections of each other's arsenals. The consensus was they all were working.

Assuming the inspectors were incorruptible. Also, unless the nukes are expected to go off there are ways to "fake it". Don't get me wrong, I'm not generally on the side of "lol none of them are even functional", but I trust those inspections about as much as I trust random Youtube/Twitter talking heads.