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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Fair enough. Carry on.

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    Like the dipshits who decided to play in the dirt in the Red Forest, I -want- to feel sorry for them because that sounds fucking harrowing and terrible, and it's likely the result of negligent COs over their own direct faults.

    But also, like... Fuck around / find out and all that.
    I'm all for FAFO, but only when it is your own fault, being ordered to dig a trench in that forest wasn't exactly their own choice, same withthis disease. It's the higehr ups who are just callous. (not that those soldiers should have been there i nthe first place.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    "Mouse fever" sounds so innocent for how serious disease it really is. That shit will kill you unless you get proper medical treatment for it.
    Those men are dying anyways. Catching this thing just means ruskie officers know who to send to the grinder next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    We in the west aren't immune to this, look at the normalization of school and mass shootings in the US. As much as we might think ourselves above this, if the conditions are right, we can spiral into this.
    Any culture can easily spiral to this, within I'd say 2-3 years from being a liberal western viewpoint given the right input. That's the scary part to be honest. We can see it now with different groups of people in the US (and even in the UK. Especially if the Tories win the next election) having rights stripped from them. Popularism is being pushed in many parts of the US and European nations.

    2024 could end up being huge when it comes to social politics with elections in the UK (almost certain, though it could happen 28th Jan 2025 at the very latest), US elections which include certain senators, all of the House of representatives and of course the President and India. Many other countries too going to the polls as well, it could be a major world shake-up and it might not be good for people at all leaving us in a spiral to authoritarianism and nationalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    Any culture can easily spiral to this, within I'd say 2-3 years from being a liberal western viewpoint given the right input. That's the scary part to be honest. We can see it now with different groups of people in the US (and even in the UK. Especially if the Tories win the next election) having rights stripped from them. Popularism is being pushed in many parts of the US and European nations.

    2024 could end up being huge when it comes to social politics with elections in the UK (almost certain, though it could happen 28th Jan 2025 at the very latest), US elections which include certain senators, all of the House of representatives and of course the President and India. Many other countries too going to the polls as well, it could be a major world shake-up and it might not be good for people at all leaving us in a spiral to authoritarianism and nationalism.
    And yet, the "left" is not asking itself why it goes that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    And yet, the "left" is not asking itself why it goes that way.
    "Trans kids want to be accepted, women want access to medical care and people of color don't want to be shot by cops on sight, so I must vote for fascists to counteract that." - Some enlightened centrist./s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    "Trans kids want to be accepted, women want access to medical care and people of color don't want to be shot by cops on sight, so I must vote for fascists to counteract that." - Some enlightened centrist./s
    Sure the Red team seems to be run entirely by shit flinging gibbons who's only defining policy feature seems to be making everything worse on purpose for literally everyone.

    But the Blue team members I see complaining about Red's conduct are kind of annoying so I guess I've got no choice. Besides, Red Team has some -really- snappy slogans!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    And yet, the "left" is not asking itself why it goes that way.
    The "left" has been pointing out that unfettered capitalism facilitates the rise of authoritarian governments since Tsarist Russia.

    "Why isn't the left asking itself a question it's known the answer to for more than a century--" I don't know why aren't you asking yourself why you feel the need to waste bandwidth on half-baked flop takes?
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    The "left" has been pointing out that unfettered capitalism facilitates the rise of authoritarian governments since Tsarist Russia.

    "Why isn't the left asking itself a question it's known the answer to for more than a century--" I don't know why aren't you asking yourself why you feel the need to waste bandwidth on half-baked flop takes?
    Whew. I imagine meeting a Macron voter in person, is the only thing more tedious than meeting a Macron voter online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milchshake View Post
    Whew. I imagine meeting a Macron voter in person, is the only thing more tedious than meeting a Macron voter online.
    Given the usual content of Specialka posts I'd be surprised if he wasn't a Le Pen voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Given the usual content of Specialka posts I'd be surprised if he wasn't a Le Pen voter.
    I imagine it's the metric version of a Ron Paul-to-Trump voter.... <shudder>.
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    Interesting.. the Kiev regime is so desperate for manpower that they resort to disgusting tactics to force unwilling or unfit Ukrainians to be cannon fodders. Only those with money can bribe their way out of this war given that Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt country. I'd probably bribe my way out too, why die for a warmongering comedian in cargo pants who doesn't seek peace?

    Dmytro Yefimenko, 34, a shop owner, is of prime draft age, but he broke his right arm earlier this year and thought he was exempt from service. Then in June, as he was heading to a doctor’s appointment near the small western city of Vyzhnytsia, the police stopped him at a checkpoint.
    “My husband was leaving the night shift in the morning, the recruiting center team blocked his way and he was taken by force to go through the medical commission,” read one message to a Kyiv-based lawyer, viewed by The Times. Another message read: “The situation is such that men in camouflage uniforms came to the institution, took the phones from the guys and took them to the recruiting office, forcing them to sign something.”
    While some believe that high casualty numbers are partially to blame for aggressive conscription tactics, others point to a different reason: many Ukrainian men have either fled or bribed their way out of the draft, leaving a shrinking pool of conscripts, some of whom are supposed to be exempt from mobilization.

    Among those remaining in the pool are many from impoverished circumstances.

    “It’s a war for poor people,” said one Kyiv-based lawyer, requesting anonymity so as not to publicly criticize the military.

    One 58-year-old taxi driver in Kitsman, who declined to give his name, fearing retribution, said the recruiters had taken his passport and returned it a few days later after he showed up for the medical screening. “There’s lawlessness here,” he said angrily.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/w...mentsContainer

    I heard that the comedian-in-chief Zelensky is looking mobilize another 500k cannon fodders for his war effort. I wonder if the cheerleaders outside of Ukraine are willing to volunteer?
    Last edited by TrueNeutral; 2023-12-21 at 05:53 AM.

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    Casual reminder that nothing is stopping Putin from just fucking off and going back to Russia, and leaving all Ukranian territory. That is the quickest end to all the bloodshed.

    I won't pretend some of what is described in the article is defensible, but I find it pretty odd that suddenly the use of those tactics should justify the end of the war. Especially since like, hasn't Russia been sacking prisons and disappearing folks for military service for quite some time now? Where's the same faux outrage over their prolonged abuse of their people!?

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    How is one who is defending their own land a war-monger exactly?

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    Linking directly to the comments section .... lol thats some ham-handed social manipulation.

    Totally organic resentment boys. No way that Vatniks or Nashi flood forums or the comments section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    How is one who is defending their own land a war-monger exactly?
    Easy, Ukraine should've acted like Austria and welcomed the dictator and his forces. /s
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    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Someone tell the TrueRuZZian that he's projecting hard. Everything he said applies to his country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Casual reminder that nothing is stopping Putin from just fucking off and going back to Russia, and leaving all Ukranian territory. That is the quickest end to all the bloodshed.

    I won't pretend some of what is described in the article is defensible, but I find it pretty odd that suddenly the use of those tactics should justify the end of the war. Especially since like, hasn't Russia been sacking prisons and disappearing folks for military service for quite some time now? Where's the same faux outrage over their prolonged abuse of their people!?
    You won't see it from him except some one line statement saying Russia is bad, yet he will write paragraphs on how Ukraine is bad. Somehow it is Ukraine who is wrong for you know defending their own country. Yes you are correct on Russia doing all those things for a long time now. Like two seconds of searching from a single search showing a 1yr+ and a 8m of Russia forcibly "recruiting" people. There are plenty of others throughout this war that I have seen that I can't be bothered to try and find.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...ks_like_in_st/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...bilization_in/

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    And not to forget that russia is forcing amputees back into the trenches rather than discharging them like a civilised nation. Heck, there was video yesterday of still wounded russian soldiers being returned to the front in handcuffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    I heard that the comedian-in-chief Zelensky is looking mobilize another 500k cannon fodders for his war effort. I wonder if the cheerleaders outside of Ukraine are willing to volunteer?
    You heard wrong. His military is the one asking him for those troops.
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...iy-2023-12-19/
    Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said on Tuesday the military had proposed mobilising 450,000-500,000 more Ukrainians into the armed forces in what would mark a dramatic step up of Kyiv's war with Russia.

    The Ukrainian leader told his end-of-year news conference it was a "highly sensitive" issue that the military and government would discuss before deciding whether to send the proposal to parliament.

    Zelenskiy said he wanted to hear more arguments in favour of mobilising the additional people before backing such a move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    And not to forget that russia is forcing amputees back into the trenches rather than discharging them like a civilised nation. Heck, there was video yesterday of still wounded russian soldiers being returned to the front in handcuffs.
    Tbf someone with their limbs blown off already has less to lose from stepping on another landmine.

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