Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-m...143606978.html
Russian media: 16-year-old Russian arrested for allegedly torching Su-34 jet at Chelyabinsk airbase

A 16-year-old boy from the North Caucasian Russian republic of Dagestan was arrested for allegedly torching a Su-34 fighter jet at an airbase in Chelyabinsk, local Russian media reported on Jan. 7.

The jet was lit on fire overnight on Jan. 4 while parked at the Shagol airbase outside of Chelyabinsk, some 2,000 kilometers east of the Ukrainian border. Ukraine's military intelligence agency (HUR) released a video of the jet being lit on fire but did not explicitly take responsibility for the sabotage.

Earlier on Jan. 4, Ukrainska Pravda reported that the HUR was behind the torching, citing an undisclosed intelligence source.

While the HUR said that the aircraft burnt down, the full extent of damage to the plane, which costs at least $50 million, is not apparent from the published footage.

The jet belonged to the 21st Mixed Aviation Division of the Russian Air Force, the HUR said.

Russian media claimed that the fire was quickly extinguished and did not cause any major damage, but did not release evidence to support the claim. The Dagestani boy was arrested the following day. A city court in Chelyabinsk ordered him into pre-trial detention on Jan. 7.

The Russian state-run media outlet TASS reported on Jan. 5, citing information from Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) that a suspect had been arrested in the case, and added that the individual in question was also allegedly involved in other sabotage attacks on Russian infrastructure in Dagestan.

TASS claimed that the FSB had found evidence of the suspect's correspondence with Ukrainian intelligence.

There is no way to independently verify this information. Russia does not provide transparent access to its legal system, and international human rights organizations have long detailed rampant abuse in its justice system, as well as the use of torture.

, kid is a hero. Also says a lot about Russia's defense that a 16 year old was able to sneak onto a base and set a $50m jet on fire and escape the base for the night.

[Corvus]

Chances are it wasn't even him - authoritarian regimes like to just arrest anyone nearby and blame it on them to make it look like they are quick and decisive.

[Nymrohd]

Chances are it wasn't even him - authoritarian regimes like to just arrest anyone nearby and blame it on them to make it look like they are quick and decisive.

It's just a confounding option because it makes them look like fools. I guess the angle is "look at how evil NATO and Ukraine are corrupting Russian teens against the Motherland"?

[Gabriel]

It's just a confounding option because it makes them look like fools. I guess the angle is "look at how evil NATO and Ukraine are corrupting Russian teens against the Motherland"?

I kinda doubt that. Admitting to being susceptible to corruption is admitting to weakness, and Russians don't do that.

[Iphie]

I kinda doubt that. Admitting to being susceptible to corruption is admitting to weakness, and Russians don't do that.

Sounds a bit like, "damned if they do, damned if they don't", no matter which way they go they'll look weak. Which is fine by me.

[zorkuus]

I kinda doubt that. Admitting to being susceptible to corruption is admitting to weakness, and Russians don't do that.

They inadvertently admit to weakness all the time. It's called incompetence.

[Gabriel]

They inadvertently admit to weakness all the time. It's called incompetence.

Ahh, but that is the thing that most Westerners don't understand about Russian culture.

As long as you don't actually admit to it in words, it didn't happen.

[Voidism]

Ahh, but that is the thing that most Westerners don't understand about Russian culture.

As long as you don't actually admit to it in words, it didn't happen.

And if it did happen, they are proud of having the most bestest biggest corruption!

[Edge-]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-m...143606978.html
Russian media: 16-year-old Russian arrested for allegedly torching Su-34 jet at Chelyabinsk airbase


, kid is a hero. Also says a lot about Russia's defense that a 16 year old was able to sneak onto a base and set a $50m jet on fire and escape the base for the night.

Approaching two full years of an invasion of another country and they can't even keep their domestic airfields from getting raided by highschoolers.

[Forogil]

His name is pig sticker which is slang for a knife but also means stabbing/killing a pig and he purposely misspells Ukraine to call them pigs. Dude is a ghoul who faps to dead Ukrainians.

As expected - it's straight from the Stage#4 (Dehumanization) of genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoci...and_prevention

"One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects, or diseases."

[Iphie]

Wrong putin! Got my hopes up there.

[Corvus]

In something of an irony after last year's ads claiming europe was going to freeze and have to eat their hamsters, many thousands have been left without power or heating for days or even weeks in Moscow oblast in sub zero temperatures.

https://www.politico.eu/article/russ...rns-on-moscow/

It isn't Moscow city yet, but it isn't out in the ethnic regions were it can be ignored.

[PgStckr]

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[Iphie]

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It's crass, yes, but the fact is that invaders and their supporters get less sympathy than defenders.

That's what you wanted to hear, right? Good, now crawl back to that hellhole to the east.

[Corvus]

One was providing aid to fascist invaders in occupied territory, the other was defending his homeland from the fascist invaders.

Next.

[Saradain]

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Poor Russia. What, you expect people to mourn your countrymen committing or assisting a genocide?

Never mind, you got sent to a holiday already. See ya soon(tm), with another Twitter montage how your people can't murder and pillage in peace. And how any act of defense crossing the border you pretend doesn't exist anyway is a horrible crime.

[Karreck]

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I too have more sympathy for Ukrainians fighting to defend their country from an unprovoked attack than I do for Russians who support the invasion and genocide currently being committed by their government.
Russians will stop dying in Ukraine when Russia stops attacking Ukraine.

[Iphie]

Big fire in St. Petersburg I read some chatter that employees aren't exactly happy about friends being sent to Ukraine, do with that what you will.

(If this is a double post, sorry, I've not seen updates since wednesday)

[Saradain]

Big fire in St. Petersburg I read some chatter that employees aren't exactly happy about friends being sent to Ukraine, do with that what you will.

(If this is a double post, sorry, I've not seen updates since wednesday)

The thread has been broken for days now, was wondering if anyone is posting or what...But yeah, it happened to be a perfect kind of building that is on fire. The one that surely provides the more elite people with stuff. I speak loosely when I say elite, let's call them "people with indoor toilets", so better than the usual vatnik...

[Kaleredar]

The thread has been broken for days now, was wondering if anyone is posting or what...But yeah, it happened to be a perfect kind of building that is on fire. The one that surely provides the more elite people with stuff. I speak loosely when I say elite, let's call them "people with indoor toilets", so better than the usual vatnik...

I presume the threads been broken because a prolific poster deleted their account causing the page numbers to shift, but this thread hasn’t been updated enough for the forum to work its way through figuring out the post discrepancy


At any rate, Russia is one again left in their no-win scenario vis-a-vis the optics of this fire. Do they 1) say the Ukrainians did it, meaning that Ukraine can project force into Russia, 2) claim it was anti-war sentiments in Russia, admitting that not everybody in Russia is in lock-step about this, or 3) say it was an accident, adding on to a long list of Russian incompetence.