Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Poopymonster]

LOL

What sea defense doing

It's doing a sea defense.
The Red Sea defense. Minute something is sighted, shit parts like the Red Sea allowing it through.

[Flarelaine]

If he is against Putin, he will be disqualified.

If he is for Putin, at best he will just lose the election because the results are decided already. At worst, he will act like a puppet leader like Medvedev for a switcheroo.

If he is against Putin and has a realistic chance of somehow being able to actually win due whatever deus ex machina, he will fall from a window.

Care to elaborate your worry?

His twenty-odd years in Russian politics, mostly on the sidelines since the rise of Putin, show him as genuine opposition at a glance, so I'm worried about windows.

[Corvus]

That boat got wrecked.

And not just that an the EU aid, but there has been other positive news in the last few days as well.

Ukraine hit an airfield in Crimea just the other day, and russian sources indicate that 3 planes were hit (2 Su-27s and an Su-30)

Greece is getting F35s and in return is meant to be sending it old soviet era air defence equipment, such as s300s plus missiles to Ukraine and the Treason Caucus can't stop t.

Kuwait is rumoured to be sending 100 upgraded T72s it doesn't need any more - they were modified in Solvakia I think it was said and they are going back there to get fixed up before heading to Ukraine.

And there has been a lot of talk about the arrival finally of the GLSDBs - these have been in the works for a while in a joint venture between Saab and Boeing, sticking a 250lb glide bomb on a rocket that can be fired by HIMARs. While the warhead is much small that a regular himars rocket, it has a much longer range (150 km vs 85 km) and is very cheap in comparison, at just 40k each. And they have already been paid for, so another thing that can't be blocked. There are thousands of the bombs and rockets available so there will be plenty to go around.

[Voidism]

His twenty-odd years in Russian politics, mostly on the sidelines since the rise of Putin, show him as genuine opposition at a glance, so I'm worried about windows.

Indeed. I think he is legit, but he is also playing a delicate game. The regime find him useful to a point. I think they overextended themselves a bit there and didn't think he had it in him to challenge putin as much as he does.

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Greece is getting F35s and in return is meant to be sending it old soviet era air defence equipment, such as s300s plus missiles to Ukraine and the Treason Caucus can't stop t.

Oh darn, I bet Turkey is "happy". Especially with the F-16 shenanigans.

[Wilian]

His twenty-odd years in Russian politics, mostly on the sidelines since the rise of Putin, show him as genuine opposition at a glance, so I'm worried about windows.

He has been the allowed "safe opposition". His bid for presidential run has pretty much been staged by Kremlin as the "liberal" choice for protest voters to showcase how little support he would have in elections and thus how Russians reject "western values". He has been useful puppet for all these years and his sudden surge has left some people within Kremlin a bit worried according to the insiders, not over his victory because that doesn't happen but because the ruling party wants to show how Putin has the people behind him and that man could be a thorn in a society of feigned unity.

[Flarelaine]

He has been the allowed "safe opposition". His bid for presidential run has pretty much been staged by Kremlin as the "liberal" choice for protest voters to showcase how little support he would have in elections and thus how Russians reject "western values". He has been useful puppet for all these years and his sudden surge has left some people within Kremlin a bit worried according to the insiders, not over his victory because that doesn't happen but because the ruling party wants to show how Putin has the people behind him and that man could be a thorn in a society of feigned unity.

That is why I emphasised "at a glance", I haven't had the time to dig deep. So if I understand correctly, he may or may not be genuine, but the groundswell in his support probably is. Enough reason to stay clear of windows.

[Gabriel]

Ukraine, the country without an actual navy, just annihilated another Russian ship in Crimea. Vatniks in shambles.

The ship returned to the bottom of the sea under its own power.

[Elder Millennial]

Looks like the EU managed to reign in Orban.



Not only Hungary unblocked Ukraine aid, the EU didn't make any concessions on the funding that is being withheld from Orban due to human rights issues.

[Edge-]

Ukraine, the country without an actual navy, just annihilated another Russian ship in Crimea. Vatniks in shambles.

It's hilarious how Ukraine appears to have superior naval warfare capabilities without having a navy.

Apparently this ship had 50 Russian lads on it? Seems pretty expensive either way.

[Iphie]

It's hilarious how Ukraine appears to have superior naval warfare capabilities without having a navy.

Apparently this ship had 50 Russian lads on it? Seems pretty expensive either way.

It's amazing indeed how russia can lose a sea war and a land war at the same time, against the same enemy...who doesn't have a navy..

[Jessicka]

It's amazing indeed how russia can lose a sea war and a land war at the same time, against the same enemy...who doesn't have a navy..

They lost the air war as well, against a country without a meaningful air force. It’s three for three.

[Elder Millennial]

They lost the air war as well, against a country without a meaningful air force. It’s three for three.

I was reading some interesting commentary on the air war specifically, about how the Ukrainians are actually using "defensive" air "defense" systems like the Patriot offensively.

We give them a system and go "This is how you supposed to use it!" and they go "Da. Absolutely." Then they do some stuff that's 1000% not in the manual, like using individual launchers and radar system from the Patriot (which is an integrated system of multiple launchers) as hit and run mobile launch platform.

[Jessicka]

I was reading some interesting commentary on the air war specifically, about how the Ukrainians are actually using "defensive" air "defense" systems like the Patriot offensively.

We give them a system and go "This is how you supposed to use it!" and they go "Da. Absolutely." Then they do some stuff that's 1000% not in the manual, like using individual launchers and radar system from the Patriot (which is an integrated system of multiple launchers) as hit and run mobile launch platform.

They kinda have to, they sit it somewhere static it’ll be blown up in no time.

[zealo]

Looks like the EU managed to reign in Orban.

Not only Hungary unblocked Ukraine aid, the EU didn't make any concessions on the funding that is being withheld from Orban due to human rights issues.

If I were to guess as to how, Orban probably got told in no uncertain terms that the Article 7 proceedings against Hungary would be going ahead if he didn't budge.

Either way that's a very good thing for Ukraine.

[Elder Millennial]

They kinda have to, they sit it somewhere static it’ll be blown up in no time.

Not really. The Russians really don't have much they could hit something like the Patriot with.

The systems are mostly stationary around Kyiv and a couple of other key assets to interdict the Russian Air Force.

What the Ukrainians are doing is wildly different. They are literally driving elements of the Patriot all the way up to the very front lines so they can hit stuff inside Russia and occupied territories.

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If I were to guess as to how, Orban probably got told in no uncertain terms that the Article 7 proceedings against Hungary would be going ahead if he didn't budge.

Either way that's a very good thing for Ukraine.

The more news coming out the more it looks like whatever Orban was told at the meeting, it was serious enough to make him instantly back down.

Orban's demands going into the meeting were a review of the Rule of Law rules, release of about 20 billion Euro in funding being withheld from Hungary and the right for Hungary to review and possibly block segments of the EU funding to Ukraine yearly.

Literally hours before going into the meeting he tweeted about how he won't back down and how he won't be blackmailed.

Expectations were that these will be contentious and long talks with Hungary possibly getting a bunch of concessions.

Orban apparently lifted the veto minutes into the meeting and got absolutely nothing in return.

It looks like this time he really overplayed his hand and whatever got thrown at him, it was "An offer he couldn't refuse".

[Poopymonster]

I was reading some interesting commentary on the air war specifically, about how the Ukrainians are actually using "defensive" air "defense" systems like the Patriot offensively.

We give them a system and go "This is how you supposed to use it!" and they go "Da. Absolutely." Then they do some stuff that's 1000% not in the manual, like using individual launchers and radar system from the Patriot (which is an integrated system of multiple launchers) as hit and run mobile launch platform.

You don't go to war with the army you want, you go to war with what you have.
When you have no other choice, you get REALLY creative.

[Easo]

I was reading some interesting commentary on the air war specifically, about how the Ukrainians are actually using "defensive" air "defense" systems like the Patriot offensively.

We give them a system and go "This is how you supposed to use it!" and they go "Da. Absolutely." Then they do some stuff that's 1000% not in the manual, like using individual launchers and radar system from the Patriot (which is an integrated system of multiple launchers) as hit and run mobile launch platform.

I guess you are not aware that Patriot comes in multiple variants including what can be called mobile one - Germany gave Ukraine exactly that version, mounted directly on a truck without trailer (just like with some S-300/400 variants). Running with control/radar + 1 launcher is a normal mode of operation (again, just like with S-300/400), not something invented just now.
P.S.
Yeah, "defensive" in "" is the correct way, it's just a weapon and is meant to be moved around to cover your forces when you are attacking.

[Warning]

Very nice to see this new large EU aid package. Would be great if the US stepped up their game as well and made a major commitment to stomping Russia's invasion into the dirt right now.

[Iphie]

Very nice to see this new large EU aid package. Would be great if the US stepped up their game as well and made a major commitment to stomping Russia's invasion into the dirt right now.

Don't count on it, Mike Johnson is slobbering Trump's knob and Trump is slobbering putin's knob.

[Gabriel]

They kinda have to, they sit it somewhere static it’ll be blown up in no time.

The Vatniks can't afford to waste missiles on Patriot systems when there are schools and hospitals still standing.