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    You can access both but you cannot search for them (from Greece, without using VPN). I just typed sputnikportal.rs and got in just fine. It does indeed make it much harder to find it since if you did not have a bookmark you'd need to find a link without a search engine. But it is not actually blocked. I did not get the government warning that I am trying to reach a blocked site or anything similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    You can access both but you cannot search for them. I just typed sputnikportal.rs and got in just fine. It does indeed make it much harder to find it since if you did not have a bookmark you'd need to find a link without a search engine. But it is not actually blocked.
    Oh damn, so not even fully blocked? That's even worse, because that would indicate that there's not even a real interest in reading the propaganda if circumventing the "block" is as trivially easy as bookmarking the home page for RT or Sputnik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh damn, so not even fully blocked? That's even worse, because that would indicate that there's not even a real interest in reading the propaganda if circumventing the "block" is as trivially easy as bookmarking the home page for RT or Sputnik.
    Well you still would need a link. I am sure your casual web user just googles (or uses their favored search engine) to find that and google will NOT provide you with a link. But once you find the website address somewhere you can just bookmark and access it. So it definitely limits accessibility but it doesn't go beyond that. If you are interested in getting that viewpoint, you will be able to find it. But you will not stumble upon it together with other news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You can claim to be whatever you want, that doesn't mean we have to believe it.
    Left wing means different things in different places. In Greece, left wing is entirely about the economy and the socialist (not really the social democratic) perspective. Left wing also often (though not always) means intensely anti-NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Left wing means different things in different places. In Greece, left wing is entirely about the economy and the socialist (not really the social democratic) perspective. Left wing also often (though not always) means intensely anti-NATO.
    Noted, appreciate the additional context for a 'Murican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Noted, appreciate the additional context for a 'Murican.
    I think to most Western people here, Ulmita's opinions are immediately dismissed as Russian propaganda. Propaganda ain't needed; that is a fairly common stance in Greece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Noted, appreciate the additional context for a 'Murican.
    I'd imagine it's also heavily dependent on location. Being next to Russia certainly made NATO rather appealing over here. Not to mention previous history with the bastards. However, it would have been highly unlikely we would have ever joined NATO, if it weren't for these renewed militaristic misadventures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Noted, appreciate the additional context for a 'Murican.
    Don't be too hard on yourself, that's confusing for most Europeans too.
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    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Edge, maybe at least try to educate yourself first, eh? Yes, basically all official Russian media is blocked right here in all three Baltic states. Yes, even TASS. The ban goes further, like decision in last december to completely block all Yandex sites as well. Clearly even the map service is a threat to us...

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Bullshit. We haven't banned Russian media in any sense, or buried other Russian opinions. We just label it what it is, state-sponsored propaganda. And propaganda has never actually been "the POV from the other side."
    Try living in a different country. Especially the smaller ones, who have bigger complexes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santti View Post
    However, it would have been highly unlikely we would have ever joined NATO, if it weren't for these renewed militaristic misadventures.
    NATO opposition had long roots here in Finland and even latest polls prior to full-fledged war showed clear majority opposition to joining NATO. It had made certain that no political parties openly pursued NATO as an option (though most kept open the "NATO Option" for future). That all changed overnight after invasion. Putin was the best recruiter NATO ever has had and it unified both right and left of the political spectrum and even some of the most anti-NATO politicians changed stance over the new reality. (Explaining to others, not you)
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    Well looks like Avdiivka is getting ready to fall(what is left of it). Not looking forward to the mass amount of bullshit that will be coming down the news pipelines from republicans saying "see". Now to just hope Ukraine built up enough defensive lines behind it, and does a tactical retreat instead of losing too many people. They ultimately did an amazing job there for how much Russian soldiers and armor they destroyed. Right on the heels of what seems like Tucker possibly having done an interview with Putin.

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    The “Russian perspective on Ukraine” is no more important than the “nazi perspective on France” was important.

    The only cursory import in the Russian perspective is how it can be used to weaken their war effort, whether by undermining them strategically or being leveraged against the Russian zeitgeist to turn their population against the war.


    There is nothing to be gained by any western media outlet or talking head interviewing Putin. It only serves Russian interests, which as far as Ukraine is concerned are deplorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh damn, so not even fully blocked? That's even worse, because that would indicate that there's not even a real interest in reading the propaganda if circumventing the "block" is as trivially easy as bookmarking the home page for RT or Sputnik.
    It's also not "Western Democracy has banned all Russian media." It's "one specific country made two specific Russian websites harder to find."

    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Try living in a different country. Especially the smaller ones, who have bigger complexes.
    Sure. Right after Ulmita stops trying to spin "the baltic states block specific Russian propaganda sources" into "western Democracy has banned all Russian media."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Edge, maybe at least try to educate yourself first, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    My irony detector just exploded. You owe me a new one.
    How could you see it explode? Reports say it was just a firework going on. Someone smoking. Seal team 69 engaging in terrorism. You don't know.
    There's a war. There is fog. YOU SEE NOTHING!
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You can claim to be whatever you want, that doesn't mean we have to believe it.
    I mean Ulmita, in between his delusional talks about Russian military superiority and nooks, has claimed to be like 15 different nationalities so I guess he’s hoping someone is dumb enough to believe he’s a “leftist”.

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    We already know the ruZZki pov. There's not going to be anything new to their lies and propaganda that we haven't heard already. There"s no "both sides". There's ruZZki propaganda and then there's the objective demonstrable truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    We should always have the pov from both sides.
    Hahahaha....no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    the video with the most views in the history of twitter
    Do you have a source for that claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Do you have a source for that claim?
    I'm sure if they track every autoplay as users scroll by as a "view" and force it into a bunch of users feeds regardless of if they've followed anyone sharing or interested it or not, they can absolutely artificially make that happen.

    I mean, that's how they made his initial videos have such high view counts. And Facebook long used that as a tactic to demand a higher cost for video ads by dishonestly adding every autoplay from a user scrolling by as an actual view of the ad.

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