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    The “Russian perspective on Ukraine” is no more important than the “nazi perspective on France” was important.

    The only cursory import in the Russian perspective is how it can be used to weaken their war effort, whether by undermining them strategically or being leveraged against the Russian zeitgeist to turn their population against the war.


    There is nothing to be gained by any western media outlet or talking head interviewing Putin. It only serves Russian interests, which as far as Ukraine is concerned are deplorable.
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  2. #36682
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Oh damn, so not even fully blocked? That's even worse, because that would indicate that there's not even a real interest in reading the propaganda if circumventing the "block" is as trivially easy as bookmarking the home page for RT or Sputnik.
    It's also not "Western Democracy has banned all Russian media." It's "one specific country made two specific Russian websites harder to find."

    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Try living in a different country. Especially the smaller ones, who have bigger complexes.
    Sure. Right after Ulmita stops trying to spin "the baltic states block specific Russian propaganda sources" into "western Democracy has banned all Russian media."
    Last edited by DarkTZeratul; 2024-02-07 at 07:32 AM.

  3. #36683
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Edge, maybe at least try to educate yourself first, eh?
    My irony detector just exploded. You owe me a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl View Post
    My irony detector just exploded. You owe me a new one.
    How could you see it explode? Reports say it was just a firework going on. Someone smoking. Seal team 69 engaging in terrorism. You don't know.
    There's a war. There is fog. YOU SEE NOTHING!
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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  6. #36686
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    You can claim to be whatever you want, that doesn't mean we have to believe it.
    I mean Ulmita, in between his delusional talks about Russian military superiority and nooks, has claimed to be like 15 different nationalities so I guess he’s hoping someone is dumb enough to believe he’s a “leftist”.

  7. #36687
    We already know the ruZZki pov. There's not going to be anything new to their lies and propaganda that we haven't heard already. There"s no "both sides". There's ruZZki propaganda and then there's the objective demonstrable truth.

  8. #36688
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    We should always have the pov from both sides.
    Hahahaha....no.

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  9. #36689
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    the video with the most views in the history of twitter
    Do you have a source for that claim?

  10. #36690
    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Do you have a source for that claim?
    I'm sure if they track every autoplay as users scroll by as a "view" and force it into a bunch of users feeds regardless of if they've followed anyone sharing or interested it or not, they can absolutely artificially make that happen.

    I mean, that's how they made his initial videos have such high view counts. And Facebook long used that as a tactic to demand a higher cost for video ads by dishonestly adding every autoplay from a user scrolling by as an actual view of the ad.

  11. #36691
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    Sure. Right after Ulmita stops trying to spin "the baltic states block specific Russian propaganda sources" into "western Democracy has banned all Russian media."
    Fair enough. There is large gap between UK and Baltics, as something I have checked myself. Of course I have seen questions asking how the f... do journalists know what exactly Russian media says if it's blocked but oh well.
    P.S.
    Blocks are ridiculously easily circumventable. Not even VPN is needed depending on your ISP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Fair enough. There is large gap between UK and Baltics, as something I have checked myself. Of course I have seen questions asking how the f... do journalists know what exactly Russian media says if it's blocked but oh well.
    P.S.
    Blocks are ridiculously easily circumventable. Not even VPN is needed depending on your ISP.
    They’re largely pointless as well, since there’s so many Russian bots out there making sure the “views” get through.

  13. #36693
    Time to physically cut Russia off from the internet. Thankfully they might be doing it themselves.

  14. #36694
    They've banned vpns for starters.

    And the latest candidate to run against pootie just got banned. Funny how every other candidate ends up dead, arrested or banned. Pootie must be scared of an actual vote despite the election being rigged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    It's about time to listen a bit to the other side too right? Elon tweeted this out, because the video with the most views in the history of twitter is about to land. Everyone and their grandmothers have been waiting for this interview.
    No it isn't. They claimed that the Trump interview was going to have the most views ever, and the only reason it did, was because it was forced on everyone's feed. If you scrolled past it, it counted as a view. Trump claimed it had 230 million views in less than 24 hours. But the real total views was only 14.8 million views.

    https://mashable.com/article/tucker-...lion%20viewers.)

    I can guarantee it won't show be viewed even close to what you want it to. Because we know you are a Russian, you have admitted to it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'm sure if they track every autoplay as users scroll by as a "view" and force it into a bunch of users feeds regardless of if they've followed anyone sharing or interested it or not, they can absolutely artificially make that happen.

    I mean, that's how they made his initial videos have such high view counts. And Facebook long used that as a tactic to demand a higher cost for video ads by dishonestly adding every autoplay from a user scrolling by as an actual view of the ad.
    I posted it in a reply on how they do it to Ulmita.

    https://mashable.com/article/tucker-...lion%20viewers.)

    That shows how they calculate views on Xhitter.

  16. #36696
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    They've banned vpns for starters.

    And the latest candidate to run against pootie just got banned. Funny how every other candidate ends up dead, arrested or banned. Pootie must be scared of an actual vote despite the election being rigged.
    He's probably worried that his goons will fuck up the job of rigging the election.

  17. #36697
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    He's probably worried that his goons will fuck up the job of rigging the election.
    Rigging an election requires complicity from a great number a people and involves too many moving parts, as it were. Brainwashing and suppression are a lot simpler.

    Speaking from experience, in a way - in the last election, Hungarian opposition organised a great drive to delegate vote counters to every last little village to show how votes were being stolen. It turned out they weren't. People wanted to vote for Orbán, even if they had to be shown which name on the ballot is his candidate's.

  18. #36698
    Its infinitely easier to just not have opposition rather then having to fake the result.
    And if you fake it you have large groups of people who voted for the candidate that you decided would lose who then get angry that they lost and that the election was stolen. Again easier to just not give them a candidate to vote for, they will be a lot less angry when they don't vote because the only option was someone they don't wan to vote for.

    You see this in other countries where there is a lot of civil unrest after unreliable elections and people go out to protest or riot. You avoid all that by not giving them a candidate to vote for.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Rigging an election requires complicity from a great number a people and involves too many moving parts, as it were. Brainwashing and suppression are a lot simpler.
    That's, more or less, what I said before, with vote rigging other forces could work against him and make him lose the vote, without an opponent running against him he doesn't have to worry about his underlings moving against him in a "legal" manner. (look we all know he won't go easily if he lost the vote, but it would look better internationally if he lost the vote than if a coup came along. Even if we pretend that we're happy either way.)

  20. #36700
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    They've banned vpns for starters.
    Russia has not banned VPN's...

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