Russian invasion of Ukraine

[DarkRose92]

Slobba Yewkraymiuh.

[Mekh]

Slobba Yewkraymiuh.

"Mods are asleep, let's see how much shitposting I can do until they wake up."

[DarkAmbient]

Adviika's gone

https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20

A pyrrhic victory for Russia. But Ukraine can't win this war of attrition without ongoing support. They're already rationing ammunition. Their soldiers are in their 40s. They've lost almost a fifth of their territory and I don't think they'll get it back, at least not before 2025 when they might finally be able to launch another major counter offensive.

[Karreck]

"Mods are asleep, let's see how much shitposting I can do until they wake up."

Just your typical Right Wing troll going on a forum spree until he gets banned.

[Easo]

One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...

[Saradain]

One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...

Care to source your claims and numbers or you just making them up (again)?

Hehe, imagine being happy for continuing genocide so you can at least pretend to be right when you've been...nothing but wrong in the past xD

Pride, the real downfall of humanity. Last I checked the casualty numbers was approaching 400k but who cares if we add some 25% to that to downplay facts in russian favor, right?

[Mekh]

Care to source your claims and numbers or you just making them up (again)?

Hehe, imagine being happy for continuing genocide so you can at least pretend to be right when you've been...nothing but wrong in the past xD

Pride, the real downfall of humanity. Last I checked the casualty numbers was approaching 400k but who cares if we add some 25% to that to downplay facts in russian favor, right?

@Easo seems to believe not acknowleding the dozens of times he was wrong makes him right. No different from the other people who coincidentally keep arguing in the same direction; functionally and possibly ideologically no different from tankies, nazis or trumpists.

[Saradain]

@Easo seems to believe not acknowleding the dozens of times he was wrong makes him right. No different from the other people who coincidentally keep arguing in the same direction; functionally and possibly ideologically no different from tankies, nazis or trumpists.

Easo, Ulmita and Waffles appearance correlates with western supply line issues perfectly. Because that's the only time nazi Russia can get anything done

Brave defenders of...eh...genocide...war crimes...stuff. And I thought just being a reader of MMO-C made one a weirdo.

[Iphie]

One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...

Russian leadership doesn't care about casualties, do not think that casualties will stop russia...well, not until the mothers of the soldiers really get involved. In any case, right now we're on track to get to about 7-800k eliminated russians by the end of this year.

[Saradain]

Russian leadership doesn't care about casualties, do not think that casualties will stop russia...well, not until the mothers of the soldiers really get involved. In any case, right now we're on track to get to about 7-800k eliminated russians by the end of this year.

Shit, Easo was right :O

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual...-Ukrainian_War

Casualties in the Russo-Ukrainian War included six deaths during the 2014 annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, 14,200–14,400 military and civilian deaths during the war in Donbas, and up to 500,000 estimated casualties during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Well I'll be damned. And an answer to his question, Russia can continue when they have how many, 147 million people living in there? 500k is just a drop in the green orc ocean. Not counting internal pressure as they have to scour closer to St Petersburg and Moscow for willing (unwilling) meat shields.

https://www.businessinsider.com/denm...24-2?r=US&IR=T

Thanks Denmark for donating their entire artillery shell stock to Ukraine. And Czech Republic is considering sending up to 800k if funding is established!

[Corvus]

Mobilisation never stopped, that's how. Pootie doesn't care about loses, only winning, so every time one dies another is mobilised from among the ethnic minorities. He is hoping that well doesn't dry up before he wins otherwise it'll be the ethnic russians from Moscow and St Petersburg that get sent in and that is the last thing he wants.

As for equipment loses, you obviously weren't watching the armoured columns repeatedly being smashed at the start of this offensive. They are replacing those from reserves but that is being drained fast. The reserves built up to take up NATO will be gone in a year to a year and a half a current rate of destruction.

[Elegiac]

Mobilisation never stopped, that's how. Pootie doesn't care about loses, only winning, so every time one dies another is mobilised from among the ethnic minorities. He is hoping that well doesn't dry up before he wins otherwise it'll be the ethnic russians from Moscow and St Petersburg that get sent in and that is the last thing he wants.

As for equipment loses, you obviously weren't watching the armoured columns repeatedly being smashed at the start of this offensive. They are replacing those from reserves but that is being drained fast. The reserves built up to take up NATO will be gone in a year to a year and a half a current rate of destruction.

Pretty much. The long term trends of systemic corruption and brain drain haven't gone away; the war is Ukraine's to lose at this point.

[Iphie]

Shit, Easo was right :O

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual...-Ukrainian_War



Well I'll be damned. And an answer to his question, Russia can continue when they have how many, 147 million people living in there? 500k is just a drop in the green orc ocean. Not counting internal pressure as they have to scour closer to St Petersburg and Moscow for willing (unwilling) meat shields.

https://www.businessinsider.com/denm...24-2?r=US&IR=T

Thanks Denmark for donating their entire artillery shell stock to Ukraine. And Czech Republic is considering sending up to 800k if funding is established!

Eh, that's for both sides...Ukraine claims 400 000 eliminated piggies.

[Saradain]

Eh, that's for both sides...Ukraine claims 400 000 eliminated piggies.

Good point, then. Good odds nonetheless!

[Kaleredar]

One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...

Hmm, could it maybe be that "Russia suffered grievous and heavy personnel and vehicle casualties" and "Russia succeeded in taking a town" are not mutually exclusive concepts? Did that ever occur to you, sweetheart?


And that concept is not the "Russian picture of strength" that you're making it out to be. Throwing your soldiers into a meat grinder for scraps of land that you occasionally succeed at taking is not a long-term viable strategy. But it's the only one Russia has left.

[Wilian]

One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...

How come you are incapable of explaining why Ukraine is using AA missiles in Kiev?

[Iphie]

Splash 2 more jets.

6 in 2-3 days? Those F-16s need to hurry up if they want their share.

[Easo]

Maybe this will illustrate my point about tall tales better...

Four American senators recounted a story Ukrainian officials told them at the Munich Security Conference: A soldier in a muddy trench with Russian artillery exploding nearby, scrolling on his phone for signs the U.S. House would approve military aid.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), leader of one of the congressional delegations, said it was “heartbreaking” to hear the tale. “For young Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines, this is a persistent topic of conversation,” the senator relayed, a somber tone in his voice.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...rence-00142077

How come you are incapable of explaining why Ukraine is using AA missiles in Kiev?

So about a week later you still decided to show that you did not read what I wrote and nor understood what exactly I asked.

[Edge-]

Maybe this will illustrate my point about tall tales better...

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...rence-00142077

Can you spell it out more explicitly?

I think most of us are aware of the supply issues Ukraine is facing, especially artillery shells leading them to ration their current supply. Because as we all know Republicans in Congress are doing Donald's bidding and not passing more aid for Ukraine, and European commitments haven't been completely fulfilled even as they separately commit more funding.

These things can be true, and Ukraine may have lost a strategically important city, while they have small victories elsewhere and the like.

So about a week later you still decided to show that you did not read what I wrote and nor understood what exactly I asked.

We all did and largely came to the same conclusions.

Maybe your clever implications are just too clever for us and you should be more explicit? It might help things along so we don't have another handful of exchanges with you dancing around whatever point you're trying to make here.

[YUPPIE]

to the guy that asked what the world should do about Navalny's murder:

when I was a kid, I was indoctrinated with jargon about how murder is the ultimate wrong/evil. As an adult, the fact people like Putin get away with it just makes me think it's seen as wrong if you're just a normal citizen and not someone in a position of power. Like Putin just murders a guy and the West still does economic business with Russia because of their wealth and resources.