1. #36941
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    The jokes about shovels write themselves. By the time of retreat announcement situation had already fallen appart, videos of escaping, captured and dead soldiers with claims of them being abandoned, videos from fortifications with ammo and supplies left so fast that no one even had a time to set fire to place, much less mine them. Also the loss of coke plant which could have been further defended since it had direct supply line from Orlivka and was not encircled unlike the actual city in the south.
    Collapse in command seems to be the answer, they basically started to run soon after city was cut in two.

    Two actual things of importance of this small city - hit to morale, especially after bleak last months and that this was one of the main fortification points in the region, built over 9 years.



    You are not what you think you are, IMHO.



    Time will show who of us was right. Back in 2022 all I wanted was for people to stop underestimating Russia just because it had stumbled and take a clear headed approach to all the claims (read, propaganda). As it turned out that was too much to ask.
    Washing machine chips. Shovels. Out of missiles/tanks/etc. by *insert date here*. Human waves. Losses 1 to 10. Absolutely insane shit like meat cubes. Can't also forget all the claims about economy and weapons production.

    Time will tell.
    You forgot to mention why Ukraine is using AA missiles in Kiev.
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    Adviika's gone

    https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Time will show who of us was right. Back in 2022 all I wanted was for people to stop underestimating Russia just because it had stumbled and take a clear headed approach to all the claims (read, propaganda). As it turned out that was too much to ask.
    Washing machine chips. Shovels. Out of missiles/tanks/etc. by *insert date here*. Human waves. Losses 1 to 10. Absolutely insane shit like meat cubes. Can't also forget all the claims about economy and weapons production.

    Time will tell.
    They don't understand that. They are waaaayyyy too brainwashed from all the propaganda they are reading from our press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Time will show who of us was right. Back in 2022 all I wanted was for people to stop underestimating Russia just because it had stumbled and take a clear headed approach to all the claims (read, propaganda). As it turned out that was too much to ask.
    Time already showed us who was right.

    Hint: It wasn't you, lol. The West did in fact sanction Russia and Kyiv was not in fact encircled and captured within a few weeks.
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  4. #36944
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    They got something that can end nations, that's why no one wants to fight them directly.
    But the thing about this is where is the line drawn? Can they just get away with everything with that card?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    But the thing about this is where is the line drawn? Can they just get away with everything with that card?
    Feel free to go and fight in russia, don't forget to have your next of kin's info on you.

  6. #36946
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    But the thing about this is where is the line drawn? Can they just get away with everything with that card?
    The nuke's aren't something worth focusing your attention on; Putin is well-aware just dropping those spells the end for his entire campaign, and if he didn't care about legacy/the great soviet reclamation he would have used something already. This is trying to dig up a wholly conspiratorial/world ending scare out of nothing. (I belive this point has been iterated in this thread a fair few times already, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post

    They don't understand that. They are waaaayyyy too brainwashed from all the propaganda they are reading from our press.
    So did they conquer Ukraine in three days?

    Did they ever find those Ukrainian nazis?

    Have they revealed how this was actually all NATO's fault?

    Were they "caring" for the people of the towns they invaded as they said they were, instead of turning them into mass graves?

    No? That was all bullshit?

    Then shut the fuck up about "propaganda."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polgara View Post
    This is trying to dig up a wholly conspiratorial/world ending scare out of nothing. (I belive this point has been iterated in this thread a fair few times already, as well.
    This is that entire poster's MO. I can't tell if they're trolling or dangerously delusional, but I put them on ignore a long time ago and haven't regretted it since.
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    Kaleredar is right...
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    Its strange that russan politican didnt fly out of airplane window.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Apparently another SU-34 got splashed in Luhansk.

    Ukrainian officials
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  10. #36950
    Four in a day. Ukraine must have snuck a Patriot launcher up close again.

    A russian milblogger who had been rather quiet since the crack down on them has spoken up after Avdiivka and he is not celebrating at all. In fact he is risking himself speaking up. He is admitting to sixteen thousand dead just to take the town. He is also admitting to 300 knocked out armoured vehicles, but the actual verified number is twice that, so the number of dead may be as well.

    And he is rather despondent that after such heavy losses they couldn't even close the cauldron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkRose92 View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Adviika's gone

    https://x.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1758949767223148781?s=20
    A pyrrhic victory for Russia. But Ukraine can't win this war of attrition without ongoing support. They're already rationing ammunition. Their soldiers are in their 40s. They've lost almost a fifth of their territory and I don't think they'll get it back, at least not before 2025 when they might finally be able to launch another major counter offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    "Mods are asleep, let's see how much shitposting I can do until they wake up."
    Just your typical Right Wing troll going on a forum spree until he gets banned.
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  15. #36955
    One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
    Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

    Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...
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  16. #36956
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
    Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

    Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...
    Care to source your claims and numbers or you just making them up (again)?

    Hehe, imagine being happy for continuing genocide so you can at least pretend to be right when you've been...nothing but wrong in the past xD

    Pride, the real downfall of humanity. Last I checked the casualty numbers was approaching 400k but who cares if we add some 25% to that to downplay facts in russian favor, right?

  17. #36957
    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Care to source your claims and numbers or you just making them up (again)?

    Hehe, imagine being happy for continuing genocide so you can at least pretend to be right when you've been...nothing but wrong in the past xD

    Pride, the real downfall of humanity. Last I checked the casualty numbers was approaching 400k but who cares if we add some 25% to that to downplay facts in russian favor, right?
    @Easo seems to believe not acknowleding the dozens of times he was wrong makes him right. No different from the other people who coincidentally keep arguing in the same direction; functionally and possibly ideologically no different from tankies, nazis or trumpists.

  18. #36958
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    @Easo seems to believe not acknowleding the dozens of times he was wrong makes him right. No different from the other people who coincidentally keep arguing in the same direction; functionally and possibly ideologically no different from tankies, nazis or trumpists.
    Easo, Ulmita and Waffles appearance correlates with western supply line issues perfectly. Because that's the only time nazi Russia can get anything done

    Brave defenders of...eh...genocide...war crimes...stuff. And I thought just being a reader of MMO-C made one a weirdo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    One could ask as to how Russia can keep attacking when out of ~500k men (or whatever was the latest number) on frontline 50k are out of action, according to the claims about Avdiivka. It would be a catastrophe and front would go full defensive and yet they keep attacking (about to re-enter the infamous Robotyne if not stopped)
    Or the claims about vehicle losses - how did Ukraine loose Avdiivka with 57 confirmed losses there versus Russia's supposed 666 (heh)?

    Not even funny anymore, truly the age of shovels...
    Russian leadership doesn't care about casualties, do not think that casualties will stop russia...well, not until the mothers of the soldiers really get involved. In any case, right now we're on track to get to about 7-800k eliminated russians by the end of this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Russian leadership doesn't care about casualties, do not think that casualties will stop russia...well, not until the mothers of the soldiers really get involved. In any case, right now we're on track to get to about 7-800k eliminated russians by the end of this year.
    Shit, Easo was right :O

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual...-Ukrainian_War

    Casualties in the Russo-Ukrainian War included six deaths during the 2014 annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation, 14,200–14,400 military and civilian deaths during the war in Donbas, and up to 500,000 estimated casualties during the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.
    Well I'll be damned. And an answer to his question, Russia can continue when they have how many, 147 million people living in there? 500k is just a drop in the green orc ocean. Not counting internal pressure as they have to scour closer to St Petersburg and Moscow for willing (unwilling) meat shields.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/denm...24-2?r=US&IR=T

    Thanks Denmark for donating their entire artillery shell stock to Ukraine. And Czech Republic is considering sending up to 800k if funding is established!

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