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    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    As we've had to remind other posters with pro-Russian inclinations, "Russia is managing this war horribly, is alienating themselves from the rest of the world, is actively burning their future, and is doing so all in the pursuit of a madman's megalomaniacal dream all whilst lying through their teeth to themselves and the world about invented NATO/Nazi/Ukrainian boogeymen" is not mutually exclusive with, nor countered by, "Russia took a shelled-out town" or "Russia blew up a tank somewhere."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    Why not link to the western media outlet providing plot armor the image is sourced from?

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...h=6c5c6ef84fc0

    And give the article a read?

    Ignore the Russian propaganda celebrating this first M-1 loss. No tank is invulnerable. And almost all tanks are especially vulnerable to top-down attacks.
    Gee, the article more broadly paints this as another day in an ongoing war where both sides lose armor. I do think you be tilting at ze windmills.

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    And if certain posters paid attention they'd notice the blow out panels did exactly what they were designed to do and the hatches are open meaning the crew got out. Unlike russian tanks which explode with the crew inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    Lol, you're linking that image directly from Forbes, which is "western" media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor
    Western "plot armor"? This isn't a fucking story. It's a real goddamn war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    Curious how the turret is still attached to the hull

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    *snip*
    Those losses boggle the mind... I'm not even being funny but even Stalin and the moribund Sovjet Union would have looked at this and said: "Fuck that noise.".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    Are you telling me that the Abrams tank with the declassified armor got blown up, GASP! You do realize numerous Abrams with this same armor have been blown up in numerous other countries over the past several decades right? There is decades of proof that this tank was not going to be a miracle cure, but unlike the Russian tanks that have their turret enter the space program, the Abrams did its job and the crew most likely survived to fight another day. We sold a ton to Iraq who lost 1/3 of them to damage/destruction to ISIL within a 3 month span.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Abrams

    Tanks are not special and Russia knows that first hand. Here is handy link with image and video proof of each one destroyed on Russia's side during this 3 day special operation:
    Tanks (2759, of which destroyed: 1803, damaged: 148, abandoned: 269, captured: 539)
    https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html
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    Ukraine claims their winning streak in the skies continues:

    https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/210

    Another Su-34 went down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    [IMG]https://imageio.forbes.com/specials-images/imageserve/65dcfe216e8eb867bcdfddb8/A-Ukrainian-M-1-burns-/0x0.jpg?format=jpg&crop=675,380,x0,y238,safe&width=960[/IG]
    And? Talk to us when Ukraine loses a few thousand tanks and a good chunk of their navy. I hope you get paid well at the bot farm, 'cause it would be sad if you did this for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

    This the view from their tens of thousands of dead seeing their loss of life was finally justified or something? Because I'm actually not sure how many of them or their families would agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    You do realize that unlike Ukraine those two countries are extremely weak and Russia would actually be able to roll over them, even in its current state. Moldova has an army size of 6,500, and Georgia has an army size of 37,000. Ukraine had an army size of over 200,000 before the war and was far better equipped.

    https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...try_id=moldova Ranked #144
    https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...try_id=georgia Ranked #84

    Ukraine for example is ranked #18
    I get Georgia as it is bordering Russia, but how the flying fuck would they get to Moldova?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    I get Georgia as it is bordering Russia, but how the flying fuck would they get to Moldova?
    One of the reasons Russia wants Odessa and the surrounding areas is to create a land route to Transistrinia, a self-proclaimed breakawayregion of Moldova with Russian colonist population. It's predicted to be the next step in Russia's imperialistic plans if west allows Russia to win the war

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Your opinion also discounts the fact that Ukraine would only be a cautionary tale if Russia weren't bleeding itself to death in the process.
    The problem currently is that due to western inaction and Ukraine's own issues with passing their mobilization laws, Russia has the initiative currently and is progressing on multiple fronts in what could be considered meaningful fashion compared to the brutal slog they have done in the past year around Bahkmut and Avdviika and in north near Kupiansk.

    The bad thing about these current problems is that would things worked out they'd be fixing the problems Ukraine faces today (ammunition shortages, loss of localized areal control of air and troop refreshment/rotation & training of new elements) but as it stands, even if everything gets passed for today, we'll see the effects months down the line due to logistics and training.

    Russia is bleeding but right now they have better support than Ukraine from rogue states like Iran and North Korea, they are skirting sanctions with Kazakshtan, Kirgystan and other Soviet ex-countries and that allows them to keep upper hand at least for the spring, if not summer. The real question is whetever west can get it's collective shit together and start providing the aid that was needed 3-4 months ago already while they themselves work out the mobilization issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    I get Georgia as it is bordering Russia, but how the flying fuck would they get to Moldova?
    They are practically already there with Transnistria. It is a typical Russian hack breakaway republic to keep countries in check.

    Heck, know why Moldova's constitution has a neutrality clause? Precisely because of Transnistria - they already had an armed conflict back in 90s and this was the compromise to end it.

    Russia can't directly reinforce Transnistria, but as other poster mentioned - Moldova is not exactly a powerhouse either and has little appetite for this kind of trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    And in case of Georgia they already even had a small war going on back in what was it? 2009? That was when Georgia got a little too cheeky for Putin to swallow.
    2008.

    And it was not merely a matter of Georgia getting cheeky (as in, they wanted control of their own internationally recognised territory, gee), but there was serious planning and preparation for a natural gas pipeline from Central Asia to the Black Sea through Georgia, bypassing Russia's stranglehold of such pipelines. That was too much for him, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    They are practically already there with Transnistria. It is a typical Russian hack breakaway republic to keep countries in check.

    Heck, know why Moldova's constitution has a neutrality clause? Precisely because of Transnistria - they already had an armed conflict back in 90s and this was the compromise to end it.

    Russia can't directly reinforce Transnistria, but as other poster mentioned - Moldova is not exactly a powerhouse either and has little appetite for this kind of trouble.
    All this trouble is also the reason there are noises in Moldova about rejoining the mother country, Romania. After all, it was Romanian land until Russia rolled in and said "my clay".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Ukraine claims their winning streak in the skies continues:

    https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/210

    Another Su-34 went down.
    Now claiming a second one for the day.

    russia won't run out of planes anytime soon but trained pilots are another matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Now claiming a second one for the day.

    russia won't run out of planes anytime soon but trained pilots are another matter.
    Yup, just saw it, and word is that the remaining A-50's are retired from combat duty near the borders of Ukraine. Very effective week for Ukraine.

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    Where are you two seeing this?

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