Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

Ukraine claims their winning streak in the skies continues:

https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/210

Another Su-34 went down.

[Dontrike]

Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

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And? Talk to us when Ukraine loses a few thousand tanks and a good chunk of their navy. I hope you get paid well at the bot farm, 'cause it would be sad if you did this for free.

[Jessicka]

Burning abrams tank, not saved by western media plot armor

This the view from their tens of thousands of dead seeing their loss of life was finally justified or something? Because I'm actually not sure how many of them or their families would agree.

[Mayhem]

You do realize that unlike Ukraine those two countries are extremely weak and Russia would actually be able to roll over them, even in its current state. Moldova has an army size of 6,500, and Georgia has an army size of 37,000. Ukraine had an army size of over 200,000 before the war and was far better equipped.

https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...try_id=moldova Ranked #144
https://www.globalfirepower.com/coun...try_id=georgia Ranked #84

Ukraine for example is ranked #18

I get Georgia as it is bordering Russia, but how the flying fuck would they get to Moldova?

[Wilian]

I get Georgia as it is bordering Russia, but how the flying fuck would they get to Moldova?

One of the reasons Russia wants Odessa and the surrounding areas is to create a land route to Transistrinia, a self-proclaimed breakawayregion of Moldova with Russian colonist population. It's predicted to be the next step in Russia's imperialistic plans if west allows Russia to win the war

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Your opinion also discounts the fact that Ukraine would only be a cautionary tale if Russia weren't bleeding itself to death in the process.

The problem currently is that due to western inaction and Ukraine's own issues with passing their mobilization laws, Russia has the initiative currently and is progressing on multiple fronts in what could be considered meaningful fashion compared to the brutal slog they have done in the past year around Bahkmut and Avdviika and in north near Kupiansk.

The bad thing about these current problems is that would things worked out they'd be fixing the problems Ukraine faces today (ammunition shortages, loss of localized areal control of air and troop refreshment/rotation & training of new elements) but as it stands, even if everything gets passed for today, we'll see the effects months down the line due to logistics and training.

Russia is bleeding but right now they have better support than Ukraine from rogue states like Iran and North Korea, they are skirting sanctions with Kazakshtan, Kirgystan and other Soviet ex-countries and that allows them to keep upper hand at least for the spring, if not summer. The real question is whetever west can get it's collective shit together and start providing the aid that was needed 3-4 months ago already while they themselves work out the mobilization issues.

[Gaidax]

I get Georgia as it is bordering Russia, but how the flying fuck would they get to Moldova?

They are practically already there with Transnistria. It is a typical Russian hack breakaway republic to keep countries in check.

Heck, know why Moldova's constitution has a neutrality clause? Precisely because of Transnistria - they already had an armed conflict back in 90s and this was the compromise to end it.

Russia can't directly reinforce Transnistria, but as other poster mentioned - Moldova is not exactly a powerhouse either and has little appetite for this kind of trouble.

[Flarelaine]

And in case of Georgia they already even had a small war going on back in what was it? 2009? That was when Georgia got a little too cheeky for Putin to swallow.

2008.

And it was not merely a matter of Georgia getting cheeky (as in, they wanted control of their own internationally recognised territory, gee), but there was serious planning and preparation for a natural gas pipeline from Central Asia to the Black Sea through Georgia, bypassing Russia's stranglehold of such pipelines. That was too much for him, I believe.

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They are practically already there with Transnistria. It is a typical Russian hack breakaway republic to keep countries in check.

Heck, know why Moldova's constitution has a neutrality clause? Precisely because of Transnistria - they already had an armed conflict back in 90s and this was the compromise to end it.

Russia can't directly reinforce Transnistria, but as other poster mentioned - Moldova is not exactly a powerhouse either and has little appetite for this kind of trouble.

All this trouble is also the reason there are noises in Moldova about rejoining the mother country, Romania. After all, it was Romanian land until Russia rolled in and said "my clay".

[Corvus]

Ukraine claims their winning streak in the skies continues:

https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/210

Another Su-34 went down.

Now claiming a second one for the day.

russia won't run out of planes anytime soon but trained pilots are another matter.

[Iphie]

Now claiming a second one for the day.

russia won't run out of planes anytime soon but trained pilots are another matter.

Yup, just saw it, and word is that the remaining A-50's are retired from combat duty near the borders of Ukraine. Very effective week for Ukraine.

[alach]

Where are you two seeing this?

[Gaidax]

2008.

And it was not merely a matter of Georgia getting cheeky (as in, they wanted control of their own internationally recognised territory, gee), but there was serious planning and preparation for a natural gas pipeline from Central Asia to the Black Sea through Georgia, bypassing Russia's stranglehold of such pipelines. That was too much for him, I believe.

Naturally "cheeky" was more of a metaphor or however it's called in English.

Obviously, nothing wrong for a sovereign state deciding on what they do with their resources or infrastructure. The problem is, naturally, that Russia does not see it this way and when something happens, they consider one step too far - there is a proven track record of them fucking shit up in what amounts to state level gangster shakedown.

Nobody wants to deal with that shit - or rather the risk vs reward equation is not returning favorable results.

[The Stormbringer]

Ukraine claims their winning streak in the skies continues:

https://t.me/MykolaOleshchuk/210

Another Su-34 went down.

This and all those observation planes (can't remember the name) they're losing will keep adding up just in time for Ukraine to get more and more F-16s. I have a feeling once Ukraine has air superiority, we'll see another shift.

[Gorsameth]

This and all those observation planes (can't remember the name) they're losing will keep adding up just in time for Ukraine to get more and more F-16s. I have a feeling once Ukraine has air superiority, we'll see another shift.

I'd say ground defence is a bigger problem for air superiority then fighters.

[Gaidax]

Nobody really dogfights nowadays, last I heard of something close to that was in Syria and it was more of an oddity.

It's a game of long range AA missiles VS interception or destruction of the AA batteries.

[Iphie]

Where are you two seeing this?

I usually start here and then go look for the stuff reported:

https://liveuamap.com/

First one:

https://kyivindependent.com/air-forc...u-34-aircraft/

Second one:

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ukra...709043185.html

[Ihavewaffles]

So i get 9 replies of cope, u guys were salivating about this n that game-changer weapon,, but zelensky is still loosing

So what's the next town that is superimportant to hold n once it falls it really wasn't? Let me guess, zelensky will loose 10 guys n the Russians 500000000?

The best part of this whole war in the clown world department when ukr claimed they shot down more missiles than AA missiles that were used...or when ukr babuskis destroyed Russian missiles by throwing pickle jars at them...

There will be more cope to come when kharkiv n odessa falls no doubts

[Wilian]

So i get 9 replies of cope, u guys were salivating about this n that game-changer weapon,, but zelensky is still loosing

So what's the next town that is superimportant to hold n once it falls it really wasn't? Let me guess, zelensky will loose 10 guys n the Russians 500000000?

The best part of this whole war in the clown world department when ukr claimed they shot down more missiles than AA missiles that were used...or when ukr babuskis destroyed Russian missiles by throwing pickle jars at them...

There will be more cope to come when kharkiv n odessa falls no doubts

You've got it backwards. It's vatniks who were crying over these "super weapons" being handed over to Ukraine and how it crossed the millionth red line. Fuck that noise. And it's not surprising a vatnik would salivate over another mass massacare by a beloved dear leader Putin and his army of rapists.

[MCMLXXXII]

Ignoring all the valid criticism and inventing some outrage. I think that's a dozen turnips earned today.

[Wilian]

Ignoring all the valid criticism and inventing some outrage. I think that's a dozen turnips earned today.

Valid critisism; slowness/inexistance of necessary aid from the west
Invented outrage; Ukrainian nazis, grievances against imperial Russia.

[Jessicka]

So i get 9 replies of cope, u guys were salivating about this n that game-changer weapon,, but zelensky is still loosing

So what's the next town that is superimportant to hold n once it falls it really wasn't? Let me guess, zelensky will loose 10 guys n the Russians 500000000?

The best part of this whole war in the clown world department when ukr claimed they shot down more missiles than AA missiles that were used...or when ukr babuskis destroyed Russian missiles by throwing pickle jars at them...

There will be more cope to come when kharkiv n odessa falls no doubts

Dude, you're the one jumping up and down, 3 years into the 3 day special military operation, a quarter of a million dead and wounded, and hundreds of millions of dollars of hardware destroyed with no replacements, that you managed to finally blow up 1 Abrams tank.