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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    UK forces in Ukraine were no secret, they've been "training" Ukrainian forces since before Russia started its build up and get mentioned every so often in the media here, think they confirmed special forces are a part of that, but get vague about not discussing the operations of special forces.
    There's a difference between "training" and guiding missiles to targets though. I think the Germans are full of the old excrement though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    There's a difference between "training" and guiding missiles to targets though. I think the Germans are full of the old excrement though.
    Yeah and sending special forces to do it means sending the most overqualified, over equipped, and valuable resource for a job anyone else in the military could do. Weird you would do that, right? Not like those training exercises have historically turned out to be fronts for actual special operations either.

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    The western special forces aren't involved in anyway - they are, as been pointed out many times, the embassy guards. Training of Ukrainian recruits isn't taking place in Ukraine, but outside of it.

    And despite what russian agitprop is trying to spew forth, Macron is not suggesting Western forces would be going to fight. What he was suggesting was taking over a few rear echelon jobs way, way away from the front to free up Ukrainian soldiers. At the most they would be taking over air defence to fend off Russian terror missile and drone strikes on civilian targets. Suggesting anything else is fear mongering. Remember, Ukraine is a sovereign country and it can welcome anyone it wants into it and russia has no say in that.

    On the ship sinking yesterday, turns out it was a two for one deal. There was a helicopter on board that went down with the ship so Ukrainian sea drones can now add an aircraft kill to their tally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post

    On the ship sinking yesterday, turns out it was a two for one deal. There was a helicopter on board that went down with the ship so Ukrainian sea drones can now add an aircraft kill to their tally.
    So russia loses Subs on land, Helis to naval drones and I recall a story about a woman throwing a can of something or other at a russian drone in the beginning of the war and eliminating it. russia really seems to go for the most absurd losses award this round eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The western special forces aren't involved in anyway - they are, as been pointed out many times, the embassy guards. Training of Ukrainian recruits isn't taking place in Ukraine, but outside of it.

    And despite what russian agitprop is trying to spew forth, Macron is not suggesting Western forces would be going to fight. What he was suggesting was taking over a few rear echelon jobs way, way away from the front to free up Ukrainian soldiers. At the most they would be taking over air defence to fend off Russian terror missile and drone strikes on civilian targets. Suggesting anything else is fear mongering. Remember, Ukraine is a sovereign country and it can welcome anyone it wants into it and russia has no say in that.

    On the ship sinking yesterday, turns out it was a two for one deal. There was a helicopter on board that went down with the ship so Ukrainian sea drones can now add an aircraft kill to their tally.
    I’m literally repeating our government’s line on what they’re doing which is that they’re there, they’re training local forces but beyond that they don’t comment on operations. And again, historically, when the OSA expires, there’s a very high frequency that it turns out that “training local forces” is a euphemism for something more direct, so targeting for missile strikes honestly isn’t implausible.

    But you’re right a lot of training is happening outside of Ukraine, which once again only adds to the murk. This is only the UKs stance though, I’ve not seen anything to suggest other countries might be doing anything similar. Different counties do different things differently.

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    Me personally I think it would be great if french and the western rout started to actually send their troops.
    I'd be okay even with proebaltic lands sending their trooper.

    The more the merrier, as they say.

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    Есть место им в полях России,
    Среди нечуждых им гробов.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Me personally I think it would be great if french and the western rout started to actually send their troops.
    I'd be okay even with proebaltic lands sending their trooper.

    The more the merrier, as they say.


    Александр Пушкин, 1831, "Клеветникам России"
    What rout? And here I thought you had been replaced with a co-worker, given you didn't say "Okraine" few days ago, but "Ukraine" instead...Don't worry though, the orcish invaders are not gonna do any better no matter how many russian poems you make people here to translate

    You happy now with possibly your first HIMARS destruction ever? There'll be AT LEAST a sextuple claim given the mirrored 3 drone footages right?

    Surely everyone gives up now when one, out of 39 HIMARS systems is down, and it only has taken 400k nazi russians to achieve that. How's your wunderwaffe T-14 Armatas? Parade use only? Right, doesn't work in the field, and that is why there's news about Russia hesitating to send 'em in to avoid embarrasement.

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    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...75556944199725

    An oil reservoir is reportedly on fire on the territory of the Mikhailovsky mining and processing plant in Kursk region, Russia - Russian media. Reportedly, a drone hit it.

    The region's governor said that a warehouse of fuel and lubricants was on fire after a drone attack.

    The plant is one of the largest in Russia and the CIS in the extraction and processing of iron ore.
    Explains the presence of certain thread vacation-chasers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    T-14 Armatas? Parade use only? Right, doesn't work in the field
    Oh please, they don't work in parades either! It's a shame they're not sent to Ukraine...Now might never know if the turrets fly off in that model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azadina View Post
    Oh please, they don't work in parades either! It's a shame they're not sent to Ukraine...Now might never know if the turrets fly off in that model.
    Just wait, the collective piggie that is nazi russian propaganda force might one day realize that asking "western rout" to bring in troops and attacking those troops would start something the piggy really really really doesn't want to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Just wait, the collective piggie that is nazi russian propaganda force might one day realize that asking "western rout" to bring in troops and attacking those troops would start something the piggy really really really doesn't want to happen.
    Anyone who wants to fight the French, knows nothing about the French, never seen the French fight, never heard anyone who fought the French or fought alongside the French talk about the French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    Anyone who wants to fight the French, knows nothing about the French, never seen the French fight, never heard anyone who fought the French or fought alongside the French talk about the French.
    Well, Russians are quite skilled at fighting french troops.
    There was this one guy Napoleon, he thought he could defeat Russia.
    Long story short, Russians strode into Paris victorious:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Just wait, the collective piggie that is nazi russian propaganda force might one day realize that asking "western rout" to bring in troops and attacking those troops would start something the piggy really really really doesn't want to happen.
    да не трясись ты так )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...75556944199725



    Explains the presence of certain thread vacation-chasers.
    Metalworking lubricants? Seems very relevant to this blog post I found on Daily Kos yestarday. It's about how Russia seems to burning through their stocks of artillery and how they cannot produce new barrels - partly for the lack of machining fluids.
    Yes, I know, it' just a blog post and a lot of speculation in the comments, but the picture they paint seems to be at least coherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    да не трясись ты так )
    You really try to break as many rules as possible, not very smart of you if you want to earn those turnips from this website. Also what comes to your scared saber rattling of nukes, escalation...Finland is a NATO country.

    What did you use to say again? Ah.

    Come, try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Well, Russians are quite skilled at fighting french troops.
    There was this one guy Napoleon, he thought he could defeat Russia.
    Long story short, Russians strode into Paris victorious
    Uhm, remind me again, because my memory is a bit shit, buuuut... when did the French get pushed back again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odinfrost View Post
    Uhm, remind me again, because my memory is a bit shit, buuuut... when did the French get pushed back again?
    I can see a title of a chapter about this matter...

    Capture of Moscow

    Matters little to the russian orc, they can always go as far back in history as required to handpick a success to bring it to present day

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    And funny how they ignore the more recent war the French fought against russia that russia lost - the Crimean War.

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    I think the whole sending troops to Ukraine might be related to this:
    Ukraine Sees Risk of Russia Breaking Through Defenses by Summer
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ough-by-summer

    If everything in there is true, sending troops might be the only way for west to keep Ukraine on its feet as ammunition production increase will take a long time to happen.

    Lastly, this might be the reason that EU seeks to switch military equipment production in war time mode (see my previous link)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I think the whole sending troops to Ukraine might be related to this:
    Ukraine Sees Risk of Russia Breaking Through Defenses by Summer
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ough-by-summer

    Also this might be the reason that EU seeks to switch military equipment production in war time mode (see my previous link)
    So which side was causing this "mass extinction event" again? Russia, who aims to wipe out Ukraine, or the evil West which aims to protect the civilians from a genocide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Well, Russians are quite skilled at fighting french troops.
    You mean they got skilled at running away from the French until the French overextended?

    Also as someone else mentioned. The last time they French went to Ukraine (Crimea *wink wink*) it didn't turn out so well for Russia.

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    Breaking news,
    Russia just about killed the Greek Prime Minister.

    Media reports Russia carried out missile strike on Odesa during Greek PM's visit
    Russian forces fired a missile at Odesa while Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis was visiting the city.
    Details: The publication says the Russian troops targeted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's motorcade, with the explosion occurring 150 metres away from the Greek delegation led by Mitsotakis.
    Trying so hard to start ww3 eh russkies?
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