Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Saradain]

The said article translated by OperaGX AI Aria:

"The head of state was meeting with the leaders of political parties this Thursday.

This Thursday at noon, Emmanuel Macron received the party leaders. The objective: to redefine the line of support towards Ukraine. Or rather, to reaffirm it once again. Indeed, the head of state persisted and signed after showing support for the sending of troops to Ukraine on February 26: "There are no limits and no red lines," concluded Jordan Bardella (National Rally) who summarized the feeling of the opposition. "I arrived worried and I left even more worried," summarized the coordinator of La France insoumise Manuel Bompard."

Might be just me but that doesn't look super sensible...

[PgStckr]

The bus hit a mine in Russian controlled territory. I assume this is why you didn't give a link and just spewed your usual bullshit.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/...ukraine-a84361

have you ever heard of terror and sabotage widely used by Decent and Just Ukrainian forces? it's literally their daily routine to bomb and terrorize Luhansk and Donetsk.
Ukrainians are well-known for fighting civillians, it's their knack, their forte, after all.


So coming back to your usual bullshit line, any guess as to who did set the mine in Luhansk?

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Macron told the national secratary of the French communist party that Kiev and Odessa are red lines and if the Russians were to reach those he would send army:
https://twitter.com/WarWatchs/status...27415991890133

Sunshine TOS-1a is an undiscriminate weapon.
Tis okay.

[Saradain]

have you ever heard of terror and sabotage widely used by Decent and Just Ukrainian forces? it's literally their daily routine to bomb and terrorize Luhansk and Donetsk.
Ukrainians are well-known for fighting civillians, it's their knack, their forte, after all.


So coming back to your usual bullshit line, any guess as to who did set the mine in Luhansk?

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Sunshine TOS-1a is an undiscriminate weapon.
Tis okay.

Untrue, but sure brah. You don't like sourcing your claims anyway, so keep spammin', the faster we get you on a holiday...

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Probably don't need to even add that russians purposefully focusing on genociding civilians is widely proven and known, but don't let facts to stop the russian propaganda xD

[PgStckr]

Untrue, but sure brah. You don't like sourcing your claims anyway, so keep spammin', the faster we get you on a holiday...

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Probably don't need to even add that russians purposefully focusing on genociding civilians is widely proven and known, but don't let facts to stop the russian propaganda xD

Untrue? So you deny that Just and Decent Ukrainians were and are constantly bombing and terrorizing the supposedly their own compatriots both in LPR and DPR, got it.
With that, I conclude our dialogue.

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have you ever heard of terror and sabotage widely used by Decent and Just Ukrainian forces?

Tell us about it, fam. Preferably with literally any remotely credible reporting and not, "My buddy sent me some links." or something.

[Deus Mortis]

any guess as to who did set the mine in Luhansk?

Literally could be either:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vikramm...h=558c618a26fc
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-troop...211500098.html

Could be an old mine that Russia set up in 2014-2015
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/15/...ne-use-ukraine

Russia-backed forces in eastern Ukraine previously used landmines in Donetsk and Luhansk regions in 2014-2015 and sporadically in the following years, including antipersonnel mines, anti-vehicle mines, and victim-activated booby-traps.

If you have proof it was Ukraine provide links like the rest of us provide.

Edit: Another article about mines:
https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine...mine-clearance

the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. In 2016, it reported that both the armed forces and the separatist groups laid landmines, including anti-personnel ones. The OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (OSCE SMM) in its unofficial conversations also says that all conflict side by this time continue to lay mines along the line of contact, allegedly in preparation for large-scale offensive operations. To prevent possible explosions and legal consequences, both sides even reportedly regularly pull mines out of the contaminated territories, to let the OSCE SMM to pass through for its field inspections, and then installed them back, once the inspection is over.

So the mines could be from Russia, Ukraine, or the separatist group.

[Azadina]

So coming back to your usual bullshit line, any guess as to who did set the mine in Luhansk?

Easy. It's a region under ruZZki terrorist occupation. Ask your komrades what the mine was doing there.

[Saradain]

Untrue? So you deny that Just and Decent Ukrainians were and are constantly bombing and terrorizing the supposedly their own compatriots both in LPR and DPR, got it.
With that, I conclude our dialogue.

Yeah, I can easily deny something that didn't happen. You in the other hand, have no facts to present. You can only deflect, divert and deceive. It's obvious why our dialogue is concluded by you, you need gullible fucking idiots to believe your bullshit.

[PgStckr]

Tell us about it, fam. Preferably with literally any remotely credible reporting and not, "My buddy sent me some links." or something.

No.
You will google it yourself.
If you really want to know the truth about the horrors Just and Decent Ukrainians have unleashed upon my people then, and do continue to do it now.
Though we both know you won't listen to sources that may skewer your views, right?


Infracted.

[Edge-]

No.
You will google it yourself.
If you really want to know the truth about the horrors Just and Decent Ukrainians have unleashed upon my people then, and do continue to do it now.
Though we both know you won't listen to sources that may skewer your views, right?

So you don't have any evidence, just claims that sound a lot more like projection than anything else.

Have you ever thought "your people" should stick to their territorial borders and not invade neighboring nations? That might be a good place to start!

[Saradain]

No.
You will google it yourself.
If you really want to know the truth about the horrors Just and Decent Ukrainians have unleashed upon my people then, and do continue to do it now.
Though we both know you won't listen to sources that may skewer your views, right?

And when we google legit sources, we get the info about Russia committing infinite war crimes on civilians in Ukraine...Now what?

[Deus Mortis]

So you don't have any evidence, just claims that sound a lot more like projection than anything else.

Have you ever thought "your people" should stick to their territorial borders and not invade neighboring nations? That might be a good place to start!

It's funny how he ignores all the links I posted on the last page, even though some of them do show that the mine could be Ukrainian, I think he just does not like that those same links show it could also be Russia's or the separatist groups mine. Also funny how he never provides links. At least some of the previous Russians actually attempted to provide evidence, this one is just sad and very bad at his job.

[Saradain]

It's funny how he ignores all the links I posted on the last page, even though some of them do show that the mine could be Ukrainian, I think he just does not like that those same links show it could also be Russia's or the separatist groups mine. Also funny how he never provides links. At least some of the previous Russians actually attempted to provide evidence, this one is just sad and very bad at his job.

Do you expect something else from a guy that just appears after something major happened to Russia in the war, then starts shitposting 95% of the time in this thread and the Israel-Palestine one? His talking points are always anti-Ukraine, anti-Israel and anti-USA. What a coincidence, mostly also posts during office hours (the most recent brainfarts of his are the only exception outside office hours so far, maybe gets extra turnips if working at home? ), almost always stopped posting after 6PM Moscow time, while starting the shitposting day around 10AM his time. 8 hour posting range.

I'll take the infraction for this, but the guy is a russian paid troll, has all the classic signs. And the trolls don't need to be mindless automatons, they can just be any guy or gal in their 20s, seeking extra money for their studies on the side. Much easier to recruit people for a propaganda war when it's not some mystical military base where covert operations take place...When it can just be a normal office where just any youth can fetch free turnips (if even that given how russian currency plummets) for little effort.

[Benggaul]

It's an obvious ban-evading alt account posting nonstop propaganda in this thread and it should have been perma'd months ago. End of story.

[Corvus]

Unconfirmed but some talk on russian channels about an a50 on fire after drones hit an airfield inside russia.

[Iphie]

Wouldn't that effectively mean that the a-50 is functionally extinct? I mean russia had 11 with 7 or so operational, with 3 eliminated and 1 previously damaged that would leave 3 operational in unknown state of readiness for the entirety of russia....

[Ulmita]

Pope says Ukraine should have 'courage of the white flag' of negotiations
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...of%20thousands.

"But I think that the strongest one is the one who looks at the situation, thinks about the people and has the courage of the white flag, and negotiates," Francis said, adding that talks should take place with the help of international powers.
"The word negotiate is a courageous word. When you see that you are defeated, that things are not going well, you have to have the courage to negotiate," Francis said.

I think that he stepped a bit out of line. It's another thing to talk about peace through negotiations and another to talk about peace because of defeat.

[D Luniz]

Wouldn't that effectively mean that the a-50 is functionally extinct? I mean russia had 11 with 7 or so operational, with 3 eliminated and 1 previously damaged that would leave 3 operational in unknown state of readiness for the entirety of russia....

probly in various states of being cannibalized for parts to keep the frontline ones airworthy.... till they were blown out of the air

[Corvus]

Still no confirmation yet, but chatter about it from russian channels.

The Ukrainians sent a very large group of drones to attack the aircraft factory at Taganrog, which services and upgrades A50s and heavy bombers. Satellite has show one of the buildings was damaged and rumours were that an A50 was in there, maybe one of the older ones that they were trying to upgrade.

[Saradain]

Pope says Ukraine should have 'courage of the white flag' of negotiations
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...of%20thousands.



I think that he stepped a bit out of line. It's another thing to talk about peace through negotiations and another to talk about peace because of defeat.

87 year old head of religious group speaks...Safe to say, his insights are not exactly sensible. Peace good, peace via caving for aggressor's terms, especially for areas they do not even fully occupy not good. Thankfully, Russia can just leave and withdraw, now I wouldn't bet money for the pope to suggest such a wild and unheard option.