Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

You know, I'm actually wondering if he has the political clout to order a strike anymore. Like, sure he's the head honcho but that doesn't mean that his orders are obeyed without delay and if this order is ignored or disobeyed in anyway he's in for a world of problems. (but let's not fuck around and find out)

Also, is he saying that only the US isn't allowed to send troops?

He warned that if US troops were deployed to Ukraine, Russia would treat them as interventionists.

[Saradain]

You know, I'm actually wondering if he has the political clout to order a strike anymore. Like, sure he's the head honcho but that doesn't mean that his orders are obeyed without delay and if this order is ignored or disobeyed in anyway he's in for a world of problems. (but let's not fuck around and find out)

Also, is he saying that only the US isn't allowed to send troops?

Good thing NATO is not same as US, or anything else that is not individually deployed by the US. Civilized world should just play this game with same rules as Russia...

...Russia says there's no war, only special military operation. If there's no war, it should be a-okay for NATO to have a joint military exercise with Ukraine in specific areas. Now if Russia would strike upon such peacefully training troops, that'd be a declaration of war...

[Iphie]

Good thing NATO is not same as US, or anything else that is not individually deployed by the US. Civilized world should just play this game with same rules as Russia...

...Russia says there's no war, only special military operation. If there's no war, it should be a-okay for NATO to have a joint military exercise with Ukraine in specific areas. Now if Russia would strike upon such peacefully training troops, that'd be a declaration of war...

That was kinda my point...

[Edge-]

That was kinda my point...

Don't worry, as I noted earlier and one of the pro-Russia posters proved true, the distinction between NATO members taking action themselves and NATO members taking actions as NATO members is one that is irrelevant. It's all the same thing to some folks.

[Saradain]

Don't worry, as I noted earlier and one of the pro-Russia posters proved true, the distinction between NATO members taking action themselves and NATO members taking actions as NATO members is one that is irrelevant. It's all the same thing to some folks.

Better not for me to get a speeding ticket abroad, entirety of Finland will be politically responsible...

[YUPPIE]

late for this topic, but I wonder if the basis for this nuclear rhetoric from Putin is Ukraine now very actively attacking Russia with massive drone strikes. Kind of wondering how we went from warning Ukraine to not directly assault Russia to this.

[ghotihook]

late for this topic, but I wonder if the basis for this nuclear rhetoric from Putin is Ukraine now very actively attacking Russia with massive drone strikes. Kind of wondering how we went from warning Ukraine to not directly assault Russia to this.

Because cause his red lines are completely meaningless. They were tested over and over.

[Mekh]

late for this topic, but I wonder if the basis for this nuclear rhetoric from Putin is Ukraine now very actively attacking Russia with massive drone strikes. Kind of wondering how we went from warning Ukraine to not directly assault Russia to this.

"How did we go from Russia attacking Ukraine to Ukraine fighting back?" Glad you mark your return with the essential YUPPIE post.

[Poopymonster]

"How did we go from Russia attacking Ukraine to Ukraine fighting back?" Glad you mark your return with the essential YUPPIE post.

To be fair, some of us have been advocating constructive Elenishism since the start.

[YUPPIE]

"How did we go from Russia attacking Ukraine to Ukraine fighting back?" Glad you mark your return with the essential YUPPIE post.

no, you know what I mean. The condition for aid was Ukraine just repelling Russia off their borders and not actively striking into the heart of Russia. While Ukraine isn't out to indiscriminately slaughter civilians right now, they are definitely performing actions that have made the Russians in Moscow aware that danger is coming in.

[Elegiac]

no, you know what I mean. The condition for aid was Ukraine just repelling Russia off their borders and not actively striking into the heart of Russia. While Ukraine isn't out to indiscriminately slaughter civilians right now, they are definitely performing actions that have made the Russians in Moscow aware that danger is coming in.

Who gives a shit.

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-luko...s-dead-1879085
Russia's Top Oil Execs Keep Dying Suddenly

Vitaly Robertus, the vice president of Russian oil giant Lukoil—the country's second-largest oil producer—has died "suddenly" at the age of 54, the company announced on Wednesday.

The death of Robertus was announced in a statement on Lukoil's website. The cause of his death wasn't stated. This marks at least the fourth death of a top executive at Lukoil since Russia's war in Ukraine began in February 2022.

The company said Robertus had been working with the oil giant for over 30 years, starting off as an economist, and that he had been awarded "state and departmental awards for his success in the development of the domestic fuel and energy complex."

In May 2022, a former top manager of Lukoil, Alexander Subbotin, died under mysterious circumstances at the age of 44. He was found dead in the basement of the home of a shaman in Mytishchi, a city northeast of the capital Moscow, after suffering an apparent heart attack, state-run Russian news agency Tass reported.

Tass reported that he went to the shaman's home "in a state of severe alcoholic and drug intoxication the day before" his death. His body was discovered in a basement reportedly used for "Jamaican voodoo rituals."

Months later, on September 1, 2022, Ravil Maganov, the chairman of Lukoil, was found dead after falling from a hospital window in Moscow. The circumstances surrounding the 67-year-old's fall remain unexplained. He had worked at Lukoil since 1993. The company's press service reported that he had died "after a serious illness."

In October 2023, Vladimir Nekrasov, the chairman of the company's board of directors, died aged 66, reportedly from acute heart failure.

Lukoil in March 2022 publicly criticized Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The company's board of directors issued a statement at the time expressing "its deepest concerns about the tragic events in Ukraine."

It said: "Calling for the soonest termination of the armed conflict, we express our sincere empathy for all victims, who are affected by this tragedy. We strongly support a lasting ceasefire and a settlement of problems through serious negotiations and diplomacy."

There have been numerous other unexplained deaths of prominent Russians since President Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

Looks like even being in the basement is not safe for high ranking people.

[Poopymonster]

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-luko...s-dead-1879085
Russia's Top Oil Execs Keep Dying Suddenly


Looks like even being in the basement is not safe for high ranking people.

Bonus points for "suddenly". The quotation marks make it perfect.

[The Stormbringer]

This marks at least the fourth death of a top executive at Lukoil since Russia's war in Ukraine began in February 2022.

"At least" lmao. Wow, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be someone in charge of that company... if I was offered a promotion to executive, I would politely decline.

[Deus Mortis]

There is apparently a wiki page that is keeping track of all the suspicious business deaths.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspic...%E2%80%932024)

[Logwyn]

Can't wait till te Ukraine wins this one and pushes Russia back to the Urals!!!

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-rep...215428020.html
House Republicans will pass Ukraine aid after backing down on border demand

House Republican leadership appears to be officially backing down from their demand for lawmakers to address border security before any further aid was passed to support Ukraine in its war against a Russian invasion.

The news was made on Thursday at the House Republican retreat, with Speaker Mike Johnson telling reporters that bills to further fund both Ukraine’s defence and Israel’s military effort against Hamas would be brought up separately in the coming weeks. There was no indication that Republicans would continue baulking at the idea of passing either of them without first striking some kind of deal on immigration reform or border security that could pass both chambers of Congress.

Hope this comes to pass, fucking cunts could of prevented needless death on the Ukraine side. Maybe the asshats realized being pro Putin is not a good look and turns off a lot of independent voters that they will need if they want to remain in power.

[Azadina]

"At least" lmao. Wow, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be someone in charge of that company... if I was offered a promotion to executive, I would politely decline.

Declining said promotion comes with suicidal depression

[Iphie]

Declining said promotion comes with suicidal depression

Mother Russia always gets her pound of flesh. But yeah, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[DarkTZeratul]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/house-rep...215428020.html
House Republicans will pass Ukraine aid after backing down on border demand

"Backing down"? Those fuckers were offered precisely that and rejected it because His Lord Almighty Donald Trump, First of His Name, didn't want them to pass anything that would make Satan Incarnate, Joe "the Devil" Biden look good.