Russian invasion of Ukraine

[KrayZ33]

Apparently, US is asking to halt drone strikes on oil refineries.

Lmao.

I'm honestly disgusted.

[Iphie]

Apparently, US is asking to halt drone strikes on oil refineries.

Lmao.

I'm honestly disgusted.

Translation: these strikes are very effective and Russia is begging the US to call off Ukraine because they can't do it themselves on account of the war.

[Voidism]

Apparently, US is asking to halt drone strikes on oil refineries.

Lmao.

I'm honestly disgusted.

Well, this is the result from not giving Ukraine what they need. They have to take other measures if they can't get enough ammo.

[Yunru]

Well, this is the result from not giving Ukraine what they need. They have to take other measures if they can't get enough ammo.

So what happens when they finish refinery bingo? Wonder next?

[Elder Millennial]

So what happens when they finish refinery bingo? Wonder next?

They will keep hitting refineries for a while. They just make such a juicy target because they are relatively hard and time consuming to fix. Beyond that we might start seeing hits on other production bottlenecks that they can identify.

[Gabriel]

Apparently, US is asking to halt drone strikes on oil refineries.

Lmao.

I'm honestly disgusted.

The US can suck a fat dick in this regard.

[Wilian]

Translation: these strikes are very effective and Russia is begging the US to call off Ukraine because they can't do it themselves on account of the war.

Pretty sure this is down to US' itself wanting to keep oil prices stable because of internal politics; it'd be giving ammunition to republicans during election year if gasoline prices began to rise substantially.

I for one think that every single refinery should be floored.

[alach]

Check this out;

Ukraine Rolls Out Target-Seeking Terminator Drones

A video from Ukrainian drone fundraiser Serhii Sternenko released on March 20th demonstrates new technology: an attack drone which locks on with machine vision and does not require a human pilot. The first Terminator movie dropped forty years ago. Now the technology for autonomous killing is going mainstream, with all that implies.

In the video an FPV attack drone with automatic target recognition homes in on a Russian tank from long distance. Even after the video link tis lost, the drone successfully completes the attack.

A reconnaissance drone watches the FPV hit. Ten seconds after he impact, a more violent secondary explosion shakes the tank from inside and it burns fiercely.

They say necessity breeds invention, looks like Ukraine is inventing Hunter Killer robots, and theres more ;

Ukraine Prepares To Roll Out An Army Of Ground Robots

This week Ukraine’s United24 announced on Twitter/X that multiple types of military ground robot were going into mass production. The organization, set up by the government to raise funds to help Ukraine, said that after a long selection procedure it would be purchasing hundreds of specialized robots for roles including combat, logistics, minelaying and mine clearance. Such robots have previously only been seen on a small scale and this may signal a major shift.

Ukraine has set the pace for drone warfare, using uncrewed systems as effective, low-cost alternatives to traditional crewed platforms. Ukraine may lack offensive airpower, but its one-way attack drones are wreaking havoc on Russia’s oil and gas facilities. Ukraine has little conventional naval power, but its fleet of drone boats has sunk numerous Russian warships and broken the naval blockade of Black Sea ports. Ukraine's kamikaze FPVs are reshaping the battlefield. Ground robotics are more challenging than aerial drones, but Ukrainian engineers are finding creative solutions.

What was the other saying? War breeds innovation? There ya go.

[Iphie]

Pretty sure this is down to US' itself wanting to keep oil prices stable because of internal politics; it'd be giving ammunition to republicans during election year if gasoline prices began to rise substantially.

I for one think that every single refinery should be floored.

Equally likely, the fact is that quite a few youtubers already predicted this before Ukraine started hitting refineries. Like they should hit them but they cant because the west doesn't want unstable oil prices, and they can leverage aid packages, but now that the US isn't providing aid anymore Ukraine can be unleashed.

As far I am concerned every airbase, oil refinery and military base is fair game.

[Wilian]

Watch for another exodus, and/or a bit more backlash this time around. But hey! the war is going just fine, innit?

Well, without trying to sound like a downer, the war is going better now for Russia than it has been since the beginning first few days when Russia were at outskirt of Kiev before being pushed back in wake of Hostomel failure.

It's primarily because of three reasons;

Functional mobilization. Russia has been able to refill and rotate their ranks due to mobilization efforts that has been ongoing out of public eye ever since the initial announcement while dipping into their prison population. That has allowed them to use sustained meatwave tactics to eventually overwhelm current Ukrainian positions. In contrast, Ukraine's new mobilization/draft law has remained in legistlation hell for a half a year, hampering the sustainability and rotations of their frontline troops. Zaluzhny stated already in December that they need to pass the law NOW to have sufficient replacements for rotations and for creation of new units to have them in place for summer. Summer is soon here and the law hasn't passed yet. This creates strain and force disparity Ukraine should be able to meet but even if the law passed now, it's 4-6 months before it's effect can be seen.

Russia's shift in economy. It's now essentially in all out war-economy status and this issue can be seen in few ways. For example, western analysts calculate that at the moment Russia can produce some 2 million 155mm artillery shells in a year, which is more than EU and US combined can produce currently, offering Russia a large artillery advantage which is further emphasised by the third reason down the line. They also manage to upkeep production of missiles, drones and in case of armor, refurbishment in sufficient numbers to keep their meatwave tactics feasible. Western analysts once again predict Russia can keep up current losses of vehicles for few years to come at current rate. At this stage we still cannot meet the demand both for our own restocking but also for Ukraine's sustained efforts. Avdviika was lost because artillery disparity had grown so massive Ukraine had no response anymore.

Foreign aid. As sad as it is, Russia is better supplied by it's allies for war than Ukraine is at the moment. North Korea keeps pumping millions of ammunition and large amounts of missiles on top of Russia's own production easing sustainability of campaigns while Iran does same with ballistic missiles and drones. We waffle about sending dozen missiles with couple hundred km's of range while Russia has received nearly 700 medium range ballistic missiles alone since February. Of course we can delude ourselves under idea that the weapons they receive are of poor quality (and often are!) but even if they had 50% failure rate, hell 70% it'd still be more than we are currently sending in aid. And that aid does not come fast. While flow of ammunition into Russia is constant, we recently managed to fund 300k 155mm artillery shells but the delivery of the already bought amount is as late as June; logistics hit us hard in absence of established clear supply lines. Lets say US finally passes it's aid bill; it can be months before the aid is realized on the ground, not on all items on list obviously but it can be.

This is without taking in account how Russia dodges sanctions through former Soviet states. Finnish exports for example has soared in hundreds of percents into Kazakshtan, Uzbekiztan etc. for the stuff that has been put under sanctions. We are in essence feeding Russian war machine through proxies.

So yeah. Currently Russia is doing better than they have in the past, they have the initiative and for the moment material advantage which they are pushing and which is why Ukraine has been hard pressed in many fronts, giving ground as of late. I can only hope west collectively pulls it's shit together and we really start sending in the material (and if necessary, troops) to turn the tide back into right course.

[Elder Millennial]

As far I am concerned every airbase, oil refinery and military base is fair game.

Every factory (except food), bridge, power relay station, power plant, military base of any kind, refinery, storage facility, rail way tunnel, rail line, rail depot, port facility, cargo facility is fair game.

The question is less what is or isn't fair game but more of what Ukraine can currently hit with its limited resources.

On the other hand, the Biden administration knowing full well that this is where we were going to end up eventually, should have prepared contingency measures to stabilize prices, such as releasing national reserves and limiting exports of refined fuel to on allied nations (basically if you aren't EU, UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan or Korea, you can go fuck yourself).

[Edge-]

Apparently, US is asking to halt drone strikes on oil refineries.

Lmao.

I'm honestly disgusted.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2024-03-22/

There's a practical reason why: It's increasing the price of crude which impacts the global economy, including the price of the reduced amount of crude Russia can sell.

Which isn't that surprising, ultimately the US is looking out for #1, the US, and Ukraine fighting back in a way that now potentially impacts our trade is no bueno for our self interest.

But like...naw man fuck off. Strike all the oil refineries in Russia until they return to their lands.

[Elder Millennial]

I can only hope west collectively pulls it's shit together and we really start sending in the material (and if necessary, troops) to turn the tide back into right course.

The fact is, we are largely unable to do so without American leadership. And that is currently totally absent. The US basically checked out of this entire conflict for the past 6 months thanks to the GOP.

I absolutely wouldn't hold my breath for the US to pull its shit together on this, nor would I expect any aid being passed, despite what Johnson is saying.

It's a wait and hope game here. The only hope here is for Biden to be re-elected and the Dems to regain majority in the House. Europe/EU has to supply the Ukrainians enough for that to happen. If that doesn't happen and God fucking forbid Trump wins, the Ukrainians will have some very very hard choices ahead of them.

I'm deeply frustrated by and incredibly ashamed by how much the US has fumbled this. I could also write a 5000 word manifesto on how much I fucking grown to despise the "anti-colonial woke left" and the "global south wokies" but that's neither here or there.

[Benggaul]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2024-03-22/

There's a practical reason why: It's increasing the price of crude which impacts the global economy, including the price of the reduced amount of crude Russia can sell.

Which isn't that surprising, ultimately the US is looking out for #1, the US, and Ukraine fighting back in a way that now potentially impacts our trade is no bueno for our self interest.

But like...naw man fuck off. Strike all the oil refineries in Russia until they return to their lands.

Yep, absolutely. I get the reasoning behind it (and I suspect a lesser, tertiary reason is that there's more chance of civilian casualties hitting refineries than pure military installations), but until Russia gets the fuck out of Ukraine I consider these strikes a necessary evil. At least they appear to be carried out with enough precision to minimize loss of human life--as opposed to certain other nations currently waging war.

[Cynical Asshole]

"Stop attacking Russia's oil infrastructure, you'll make gas expensive". USA to Ukraine.

https://www.politico.eu/article/repo...il-refineries/

LMAO! This can't be real!

[Makabreska]

A mass shooting in the concert hall in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Oblast. Twelve dead, at least. Regardless of culprit, I wonder who will take the blame?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...-hall-32420329

[Cynical Asshole]

A mass shooting in the concert hall in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Oblast. Twelve dead, at least. Regardless of culprit, I wonder who will take the blame?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...-hall-32420329

Look like Putin setup his personal 9/11 to rile up Russians against Ukraine.

Expect him to blame Ukraine "terrorists" now and use it as motivation for general mobilization.


Leaked image of the attackers just before the attack

[Fuiking]

Look like Putin setup his personal 9/11 to rile up Russians against Ukraine.

Expect him to blame NATO "terrorists" now and use it as motivation for general mobilization.


Leaked image of the attackers just before the attack

I corrected it for you.

[Saradain]

Whatever video footage I managed to see about the attack, the guys with guns sure seemed to mostly aim at glass, not people...But in all honesty probably didn't look close enough either way.

In before giga-mobilization and russian propaganda bot surge (before they themselves are mobilized as well )!

[Yunru]

A mass shooting in the concert hall in Krasnogorsk, Moscow Oblast. Twelve dead, at least. Regardless of culprit, I wonder who will take the blame?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...-hall-32420329

Here is video source...kinda...some violence.
100% false flag attack.