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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Putin may have thought this war to Make Russia Da Again would have him cheered and praised. That hasn't happened.
    The thing about a short, victorious war is... it needs to be short and, yes, victorious.

    I think Putin expected Ukraine to fold in 48 hours, and so far he's not getting what he wanted out of this invasion.

    Doesn't mean he's not going to keep trying, regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphelios View Post
    This would have never happened under the leadership of President Trump.
    Trump would’ve gone in there with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphelios View Post
    This would have never happened under the leadership of President Trump.
    Trick statement. Trump had no "leadership".
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    The Swiss have said they will follow EU sanctions. Wonder how much wealth the oligarchs had stashed in Swiss banks.

    Anonymous or someone claiming to be them have dropped a database they said they took from the Russian ministry of defence which contains usernames, email addresses, passwords and phone numbers of the organisation. And that does seem to include soldiers as well.

    And pornhub have blocked all Russian users. Any Russians trying to use it are met with a Ukrainian flag and a message if support for Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    And pornhub have blocked all Russian users. Any Russians trying to use it are met with a Ukrainian flag and a message if support for Ukraine.
    Man, Pornhub continues to be a tremendous force for good in the world. If anything is gonna rile up the Russian citizenry against their government, it's losing access to the biggest porn site in the world (I assume it is, at least).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    And pornhub have blocked all Russian users. Any Russians trying to use it are met with a Ukrainian flag and a message if support for Ukraine.
    This better make it into the history books, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphelios View Post
    This would have never happened under the leadership of President Trump.
    cope, seethe, mald.

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    For all the, "thIS woUldN'T HavE HAppeNeD UndEr TRumP" and "bUT tRuMP Didn'T GiVE RusSiA anYthiNG" folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I think Putin expected Ukraine to fold in 48 hours
    Yeah, sounds like what Petraeus was saying.

    Also, NATO activated defense force for the first time ever ever. Putin is the leader who actually is making NATO mobilize.

    There is no evidence yet Putin actually wants to enter Europe, even before this. Putin might have threatened Finland, but he's not stupid and incompetent like Trump. The difference here is the message. NATO is saying "You wanted to be taken seriously, congratulations, you are."

    Also, furthering what Petraeus said about occupying forces, =AZWrxB9CRTPVusb0c6wQm0_y1TIAsmxX-tnYeGhMObdnw3a9hPy8AD5oyZCLDkMtvN3nC3erz5_inal_WkmtPUkbAVDRHnobzFVy2AigG4EV6oNsh0r4tBnCCVK YmXbLVTWuQY0D_5-hUDF2QTX4wWH34ZpRqF5WED8teFbmQskcRg&__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R]a Ukrainian soldier went out like a fucking boss blowing up a bridge to stop the Russian advance, while he was still on it. Dude's going to be a national hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post


    For all the, "thIS woUldN'T HavE HAppeNeD UndEr TRumP" and "bUT tRuMP Didn'T GiVE RusSiA anYthiNG" folks.
    Would work for people with atleast 2 working brain cells and some sense... sadly for trumphadi's it will boil down to: ''HE NEVER SAID THAT'' or: ''HES BEING WITCH HUNTED DOWN''

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    Sending thoughts and prayers. Be safe everyone!

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    That guy, like the 13 on Snake Island, did what I never could.

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    https://thehill.com/policy/internati...-counter-putin

    Per some experts, it seems Biden's constant public discussion of Russia's planned invasions wasn't just bloviating or him "panicking", but rather a new strategy to counter Putin and Russian propaganda. And per these same experts, while it didn't successfully deter the attack it does appear to have "thrown off Putin's game" to a point.

    Even sharing some of the intelligence with China in being a transparent partner, knowing that China would share it with Russia. Letting Russia know what we know isn't inherently a bad thing, despite what Daily Caller and some other conservative outlets are currently freaking out about.

    At least it was our intelligence to share, and not our POTUS sharing intelligence from an allied nation - not ours to share - and sharing it with Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barzotti View Post
    Thanks for the heads up, it's very insightful.
    The ONLY thing Trump might have done was throw Ukraine to the mercy of Putin sooner. Since when has Trump's foreign policy been to intervene? The man openly hassled NATO and gave Europe to seek supplemental local defense pacts.

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    People, you do realize you are posting a lot of crap, right?
    Pornhub block, for example, is not true. And take a chill pill about China invading Russia. It's ridiculous idea as of this moment due to multitude of factors.

    Couple other things - there has been more than one friendly fire incident in Kiev today. Wanna guess why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Take that haters.
    IF IM STUPID, so is Donald Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post

    See above, you're in good company.
    Unfortunately, I think Russia is far more brutal than most people realize. I don't think they will risk occupation. Syria was a lesson for them in that.

    You only need to make your enemies cities inhospitable to control them. The vast majority of Syria resided in 3 cities. Damascus, almost always under full government control. Homs, the beginning of the rebellion, which 60% of the city was destroyed. And Aleppo seen by many as the final confrontation which 80%+ was destroyed.

    Russia helped destroy those cities. Which not only caused the opposition to Assad to flee but permanently restructured the power struggle in Syria. Those hoping to return to Homs or Aleppo post war who are not loyalists have been subject to seizure and worst by the government. So its not occupation they are after, but a complete re-write of demographics and political affiliations that Russia has influence has over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    The ONLY thing Trump might have done was throw Ukraine to the mercy of Putin sooner. Since when has Trump's foreign policy been to intervene? The man openly hassled NATO and gave Europe to seek supplemental local defense pacts.
    The 1) was effectely dubious. But the rest is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Swiss have said they will follow EU sanctions. Wonder how much wealth the oligarchs had stashed in Swiss banks.

    Anonymous or someone claiming to be them have dropped a database they said they took from the Russian ministry of defence which contains usernames, email addresses, passwords and phone numbers of the organisation. And that does seem to include soldiers as well.

    And pornhub have blocked all Russian users. Any Russians trying to use it are met with a Ukrainian flag and a message if support for Ukraine.
    I feel like Putin wants the world to turn on Russian citizens to fuel his propaganda machine.

    "See how quickly they alienate you? We must be strong for ourselves" or some bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    People, you do realize you are posting a lot of crap, right?
    Pornhub block, for example, is not true. And take a chill pill about China invading Russia. It's ridiculous idea as of this moment due to multitude of factors.

    Couple other things - there has been more than one friendly fire incident in Kiev today. Wanna guess why?
    Who said anything about China invading Russia. They work together. We shared intel with China knowing they would give it Russia in order to mess with Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Man, Pornhub continues to be a tremendous force for good in the world. If anything is gonna rile up the Russian citizenry against their government, it's losing access to the biggest porn site in the world (I assume it is, at least).
    That would mean that a lot of Russian soldiers are going to suffer from low morale and a lot of Russian females are going to lose their income.

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