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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    You can justify anything.
    To paraphrase Jurassic Park, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

    And no, these situations are different.
    In this one respect? They're not. Justifying the killing of civillians on the basis that not standing up to their government makes them complicit is always wrong.

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    saw on telegram one had a battery attached to his nether region, it was pixeled out..they had quite a weekend...

    I don't think this is isis, these appear to be just criminal scum ie bunch of dumbasses, they should never have allowed themselves to be captured alive to get special treatment for the rest of their lives..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    I don't think this is isis, these appear to be just criminal scum ie bunch of dumbasses, they should never have allowed themselves to be captured alive to get special treatment for the rest of their lives..
    Isis: It was us. A terrorist group, known for comitting acts of terror.

    You: It wasn't Isis. It was a bunch of random guys who shot a place up for no monetary gain or expressed social reason.


    Maybe the act of terror was done by the terror group claiming that they committed said terrorist act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post


    saw on telegram one had a battery attached to his nether region, it was pixeled out..they had quite a weekend...

    I don't think this is isis, these appear to be just criminal scum ie bunch of dumbasses, they should never have allowed themselves to be captured alive to get special treatment for the rest of their lives..
    So where's Ukraine written all over this now? Guys from Tadzikistan, a region where ISIS has infiltrated pretty nicely.

    Imagine being surprised that guys who got tortured, "confessed" something.

    Let's not forget you claimed these guys fled towards Ukraine, while Belarus stated they were caught before they crossed the belarussian border...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    So where's Ukraine written all over this now? Guys from Tadzikistan, a region where ISIS has infiltrated pretty nicely.

    Imagine being surprised that guys who got tortured, "confessed" something.

    Let's not forget you claimed these guys fled towards Ukraine, while Belarus stated they were caught before they crossed the belarussian border...
    Those dont look to me like experienced mercs that were reported attacking and using pretty much swat like tactics to do as much damage as possible. They look like actors or people they pulled of the street (and also look drugged).

    100% sacrafical lambs. Also they wear addidas clothing..... i havent heared of isis every wearing one as its pretty much a russan clothing there:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Also they wear addidas clothing..... i havent heared of isis every wearing one as its pretty much a russan clothing there:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
    No shit they were wearing Russian clothing, they were committing terrorism in Russia. What do you think ISIS terrorists would be wearing in Russia? Turbans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yunru View Post
    Those dont look to me like experienced mercs that were reported attacking and using pretty much swat like tactics to do as much damage as possible. They look like actors or people they pulled of the street (and also look drugged).

    100% sacrafical lambs. Also they wear addidas clothing..... i havent heared of isis every wearing one as its pretty much a russan clothing there:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gopnik
    Doesn't need to be a russian planned false flag operation, Russia can just use this opportunity. A shame Putin gotta try really hard to pin it on Ukraine, even he already admitted it's ISIS. But ISIS gotta have some connection to "Kyiv regime"!

    5 min distance from nearest police station and FSB building, took over an hour to respond...to these four guys who look like beaten bums, not tactical genius terrorists
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    They were in the mall, showing their faces while shooting. Saying they caught some random people is just absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    They were in the mall, showing their faces while shooting. Saying they caught some random people is just absurd.
    Just like Russia is saying Ukraine is full of neo-nazis, how NATO is already in war with Russia...with russians making false flag attacks every single war they started or justify to start. Absurd.

    Or maybe russians are as incompetent as they proved and had to pretend their local police and FSB personnel are not quite busy in Ukraine getting wiped. Nah, doesn't happen in ze best country of the world. And the 3rd year of the special military operation which was supposed to shut us up and show us real military might last year...and the year before that. This year, for sure.

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    They are Tajiks. From Tajikistan. What do you think Tajiks look like or dress like? What country do you think Tajikistan was part of until 1991?

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    I'm really skeptical those are the actual people who did it. They were going to find some people to show to Russian citizens either way. Russia's society is way too fragile right now to let an attack this huge go without turning up some suspects. Russia is a full-on Stalin level autocratic state now, even though they are trying really hard to pretend they're still a modern, advanced country.
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    ISIL: We did the terror attack in Moscow

    Russophiles: Oh man, who could be behind this attack!?

    ISIL: We literally have bodycam footage to prove it's us

    Russophiles: How could Ukraine commit an act of terror like this!!


    Maybe the eugenics people were right. Maybe we do need to start testing IQ early in human development and just soylent green those who don't pass...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    ISIL: We did the terror attack in Moscow

    Russophiles: Oh man, who could be behind this attack!?

    ISIL: We literally have bodycam footage to prove it's us

    Russophiles: How could Ukraine commit an act of terror like this!!


    Maybe the eugenics people were right. Maybe we do need to start testing IQ early in human development and just soylent green those who don't pass...
    They're also bragging about torturing and mutilating prisoners.

    Human rights violations, but not MMO-C violations ... didnt know this is a thing now. Grats mods!

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    Russia appears to be using Starlinks obtained through neutral third parties to copy Ukrainian drone tactics.

    Perhaps my favorite part of the video? "Musk is a big child, so it's important to talk to him and don't offend him. Yeah, because he might do some quick decisions that might not be very good for everyone."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    They were in the mall, showing their faces while shooting. Saying they caught some random people is just absurd.
    Hey bud, did you know that Russia is known to lie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Hey bud, did you know that Russia is known to lie?
    Noticed how he no longer screams of Ukraine involvement? Because Putin admitted its ISIS. But he can't still believe that because it means he was wrong. Again.

    Gotta be one hell of a criminal to suddenly decide to go terrorist attack with methodical mannerisms and tactics. Then to stupidly get caught en route to Belarus (???). A confession gained via torture is not valid nor is it a viable way to get factual data.

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    Pootie finally admitted they were Isis but still insists that Ukraine was involved.

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    Gotta admit though, in order for putin to be forced to admit that it was ISIS and not (solely) Ukraine, means there's so much evidence that he really can't deny it. I wonder who, if anyone, applied the pressure. (I know Ukraine wasn't involved but pootie still tries to pin some blame on Ukraine.) ISIS? The US? His own security services? The latter could be motivated by the notion that staring themselves blind on Ukraine means they miss things like this, and need some freedom to pursue other threats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Gotta admit though, in order for putin to be forced to admit that it was ISIS and not (solely) Ukraine, means there's so much evidence that he really can't deny it. I wonder who, if anyone, applied the pressure. (I know Ukraine wasn't involved but pootie still tries to pin some blame on Ukraine.) ISIS? The US? His own security services? The latter could be motivated by the notion that staring themselves blind on Ukraine means they miss things like this, and need some freedom to pursue other threats.
    It's probably the fact that ISIS keeps pumping out evidence to condemn themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    All this assumes Russia has anything more to escalate with, and if they did, why didn’t they just fucking use it to win already?
    Putin needs it to be Ukraine (or connected to Ukraine) not to intensify the focus on his war against Ukraine, but to allow him to avoid focusing on something else. With "something else" being an internal security crackdown, a war with Tajikistan, or an anti-terrorist campaign against Muslim extremists. Russia's war effort cannot shoulder the burden of another major operation not focused on Ukraine.
    "For the present this country is headed in directions which can only carry ruin to it and will create a situation here dangerous to world peace. With few exceptions, the men who are running this Government are of a mentality that you and I cannot understand. Some of them are psychopathic cases and would ordinarily be receiving treatment somewhere. Others are exalted and in a frame of mind that knows no reason."
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