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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...4ig5t1d7q8nj0v

    The Only U.S. Lawmaker Born in Ukraine Is Now Skeptical of More Aid
    Who is saying anything about endless?

    Four or five good years of aide to Ukraine should be more than enough to crater Russia's future prospects on the global stage, even moreso than they've already done.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    USA gets to watch their arch rivals nuts getting crushed in a vice for pennies, and still theres peoples complaining “it’s too expensive”.

    Not because of any actual finances… because of contrarianism between democrats and republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    USA gets to watch their arch rivals nuts getting crushed in a vice for pennies, and still theres peoples complaining “it’s too expensive”.

    Not because of any actual finances… because of contrarianism between democrats and republicans.
    That's a great deal of it yes, but I imagine some of them, whether political talking heads, investors, or straight-up politicians, also previously enjoyed some amount of income from Russian interests that's a lot harder to get ahold of these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...4ig5t1d7q8nj0v

    The Only U.S. Lawmaker Born in Ukraine Is Now Skeptical of More Aid
    You're right. We should get even better gear to Ukraine, so that they can end this faster.

  5. #37905
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Yeah, about that - the head of the Tartarstan region has said enterprises can't rely on russian air defence systems to protect so they will have to defend themselves.

    https://meduza-io.translate.goog/new..._x_tr_pto=wapp
    Now that's wild.

    There has been highly speculative talk, on and off, of Russia falling to pieces either because of losing a war or just collapsing under the weight of its own incompetent leadership. I'm not saying it's likely but a constituent republic declaring they cannot rely on federal protection and taking defense matters into their own hands is a step in that direction.

    And what makes it more credible, however slightly, is that as far as I know, Tatarstan is one of Russia's constituent entities that would actually be economically viable. Possibly even better off alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Now that's wild.

    There has been highly speculative talk, on and off, of Russia falling to pieces either because of losing a war or just collapsing under the weight of its own incompetent leadership. I'm not saying it's likely but a constituent republic declaring they cannot rely on federal protection and taking defense matters into their own hands is a step in that direction.

    And what makes it more credible, however slightly, is that as far as I know, Tatarstan is one of Russia's constituent entities that would actually be economically viable. Possibly even better off alone.
    I think Chechnya has also voiced something to that effect, iirc they wanted to do their air defence separately from the russian federation. This was a year or so ago, I think.

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    We should be hitting Iranian Shahed production facilities and any other facility that supplies arms to Russia. It is ridiculous that we are allowing terrorism against the Ukrainian population like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warning View Post
    We should be hitting Iranian Shahed production facilities and any other facility that supplies arms to Russia. It is ridiculous that we are allowing terrorism against the Ukrainian population like this.
    I'd agree if it weren't for the fact that the russians are apparently forcing minors to work in those factories and I cannot condone intentional strikes which can possible hit minors, even if they are russians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Now that's wild.

    There has been highly speculative talk, on and off, of Russia falling to pieces either because of losing a war or just collapsing under the weight of its own incompetent leadership. I'm not saying it's likely but a constituent republic declaring they cannot rely on federal protection and taking defense matters into their own hands is a step in that direction.

    And what makes it more credible, however slightly, is that as far as I know, Tatarstan is one of Russia's constituent entities that would actually be economically viable. Possibly even better off alone.
    Tartarstan has always been more independent that the typical Russian federal subject. It has a massive oil reserve, and has largely escaped post-Soviet looting by Moscow elites.

    It is something of a balancing act. Tartarstan cannot even come close to opposing up to Moscow, but should the Russian empire start to crumble, it will be among the first to assert its (still technically extant) sovereignty. But its people will not start anything. Among other things, even if you include adjacent Tartar-heavy federal subjects, Tartarstan is landlocked and surrounded by Russia. Russia needs to break up before Tatarstan can practically exercise any true independence.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Tartarstan has always been more independent that the typical Russian federal subject. It has a massive oil reserve, and has largely escaped post-Soviet looting by Moscow elites.

    It is something of a balancing act. Tartarstan cannot even come close to opposing up to Moscow, but should the Russian empire start to crumble, it will be among the first to assert its (still technically extant) sovereignty. But its people will not start anything. Among other things, even if you include adjacent Tartar-heavy federal subjects, Tartarstan is landlocked and surrounded by Russia. Russia needs to break up before Tatarstan can practically exercise any true independence.
    Also, Tatarstan has industry Moscow will want to hang on to. But they seem to be preparing anyway.

  11. #37911
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Apparently it is. I was reading about it this morning, they're basically turning Cessna's into remote-operated kamikaze drones. Seems like much more overall control vs. the cheap versions Iran is selling Russia, and it's incredibly cheap. $90K for the plane, and the retrofit for remote controls and explosive ordinance isn't apparently super expensive either. It's cheaper to make one of these than a bunch of the AA missiles and shit they fire off by the dozens.

    Per the article (I'm trying to find it but it was in my newsfeed and I was very tired lol) it could be a way for them to strike strategic targets fairly deep within Russia.

    Almost surprised they didn't come up with this sooner, but modern warfare sure is ever-changing.

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    https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...-march-31-2024

    Ukrainian forces appear to have repelled a Russian battalion-sized mechanized assault near Avdiivka, Donetsk Oblast, on March 30 — the first battalion-sized mechanized assault since Russian forces began the campaign to seize Avdiivka in late October 2023. A Ukrainian serviceman reported on March 31 that Russian forces, including elements of the Russian 6th Tank Regiment (90th Tank Division, Central Military District [CMD]), committed 36 tanks and 12 BMP infantry fighting vehicles (IFV) to a large-mechanized assault near Tonenke on March 30.[20] Geolocated imagery published on March 31 shows a large number of destroyed and damaged Russian armored vehicles and tanks along a road northwest of Tonenke (west of Avdiivka).[21] The Ukrainian serviceman stated that Ukrainian forces destroyed 12 Russian tanks and eight IFVs during the assault and noted that the frontal assault failed to breakthrough the Ukrainian line. This appears to be the first report of any elements of the 90th Tank Division participating in assaults following the Russian seizure of Avdiivka and ISW previously assessed that elements of the 90th Tank Division, alongside other Russian units and formations, likely represent a sizeable uncommitted operational reserve that the Russian military command can commit to continue and intensify efforts to push west of Avdiivka.[22] The elements of the 6th Tank Regiment appear to have failed in their March 30 attack near Tonenke, however, suggesting that elements of Russia’s uncommitted operational reserve near Avdiivka may be too degraded or otherwise unable to lead further Russian advances westward in the short term.

    The scale of the Russian mechanized assault on March 30 is significant. Russian forces have not conducted a mechanized assault this large since the beginning of the Russian localized offensive effort to seize Avdiivka in late October 2023, when Ukrainian forces reportedly destroyed almost 50 Russian tanks and over 100 armored vehicles on October 19-20, 2023.[23] Ukraine’s ability to defend against the March 30 assault, particularly near Avdiivka where Ukrainian forces have been forced to quickly withdraw to new, defensive positions following the loss of the settlement, is a positive indicator for Ukraine’s ability to defend against future large-scale Russian assaults and the expected summer 2024 Russian offensive operation. Ukrainian officials, justifiably so, continue to warn about Ukraine’s ability to defend against the expected summer Russian offensive effort in the face of ammunition shortages, manpower limitations, and delayed Western assistance.[24] Ukrainian forces may have had to expend a significant amount of material to defend against the Russian assault near Tonenke, highlighting Russia’s ability to conduct assaults that force Ukraine to expend outsized portions of its already limited material and manpower reserves to defend against.[25] Ukraine’s demonstrated ability to skillfully defend against a large-scale Russian assault in a particularly critical part of the front despite Ukraine’s challenges suggests that Ukrainian forces can achieve significant battlefield effects if they are properly equipped.
    I'm surprised no one noticed this while I was fiddling around abroad near Suwalki. Russia launched the so far biggest tank assault near Avdiivka. And they catastrophically failed as Ukraine destroyed a third of the attacking force.

    https://twitter.com/OSINTua/status/1774387800978100329

    30.03.24 Avdiivka area, village Tonenke. Remember this date and area.

    RUAF used:

    - 36 tanks
    - 12 BMPs

    It’s the biggest amount of armour that was used in one charge since the beginning of the war.

    12 tanks and 8 BMPs were taken out. Pure madness.
    Also in other news, Ukraine says they will destroy the Kerch bridge by summer 2024.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...a-drone-attack

    The orcs hopefully have started their swimming lessons if they succeed, and any orcish settlers better have their old homes intact in Russia proper.

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    Damn, hopefully Ukraine didn't take too many losses in defending against the assault because those seem like some very impressive results on their part.

  14. #37914
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Damn, hopefully Ukraine didn't take too many losses in defending against the assault because those seem like some very impressive results on their part.
    From what I can see it does not look like they would of, I believe the two links are footage of the attack:
    Just in case NSFW warning as tanks exploding does mean people are dying
    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...zed_column_is/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._by_ukrainian/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...4ig5t1d7q8nj0v

    The Only U.S. Lawmaker Born in Ukraine Is Now Skeptical of More Aid
    Who cares what the Russian says

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/...4ig5t1d7q8nj0v

    The Only U.S. Lawmaker Born in Ukraine Is Now Skeptical of More Aid
    The "neverending wars" will stop when ruZZia is crushed and destroyed as it is. After that they will be a failed pariah state for the next 50 years. We'll see if they'll learn to live like human beings during that time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    The "neverending wars" will stop when ruZZia is crushed and destroyed as it is. After that they will be a failed pariah state for the next 50 years. We'll see if they'll learn to live like human beings during that time.
    Something, something 1919/ treaty of Versailles.

  18. #37918
    Seems Ukraine struck airfields in russia again. Possibly 3 airfields involving up to 50 or 60 drones.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Ukrainian sources are claiming 6 planes destroyed and 8 more damaged at one of the airfields. Will have to wait for more confirmation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Something, something 1919/ treaty of Versailles.
    The treaty required Germany to disarm, make territorial concessions, extradite alleged war criminals, agree to Kaiser Wilhelm being put on trial, recognise the independence of states whose territory had previously been part of the German Empire, and pay reparations to the Entente powers. The most critical and controversial provision in the treaty was: "The Allied and Associated Governments affirm and Germany accepts the responsibility of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage to which the Allied and Associated Governments and their nationals have been subjected as a consequence of the war imposed upon them by the aggression of Germany and her allies."
    Sounds like a plan. Or are you scaremongering that Putin will rise again and start a World War II: Electric Boogaloo after?

    Can't possibly punish Russia for their crimes or else they'll do worse! Like what? Target civilians? Kidnapping kids? Start purging minorities??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Sounds like a plan. Or are you scaremongering that Putin will rise again and start a World War II: Electric Boogaloo after?

    Can't possibly punish Russia for their crimes or else they'll do worse! Like what? Target civilians? Kidnapping kids? Start purging minorities??
    Look, I want to see russia punished as well, but there is some merit to not going down the Versailles route. But I don't really know what else to do.

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