1. #38021
    You know what else would quickly end this war? Giving Ukraine everything they want, and all they can use top of line weapons, armour, and aircraft immediately. That would end this invasion tomorrow.
    How come these people who preach they just want it to be over and Ukraine should sue for peace never suggest this plan?

  2. #38022
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    When even a Ukraine-born lawmaker is questioning about more aid to Ukraine in this 2+ years of war with no end in sight, you know the Biden regime and the war backers in Europe screwed up. Glad more US lawmakers (and US voters) are realizing the futility of prolonging this war.

    Maybe she only changed her stance to get re-elected, since her primary opponent is campaigning against further aid to Kiev and I assume that is something her constituents want as well. She is based nonetheless, good on her for looking out for the interest of her constituents.
    Yes, when just one person questions things then everything went wrong. Have a good argument that is in no way stupid.

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  3. #38023
    Quote Originally Posted by Dontrike View Post
    Yes, when just one person questions things then everything went wrong. Have a good argument that is in no way stupid.
    But she was originally born in Ukraine! That matters! Even if she's just repeating her parties current party line! It's important that it's just one person in the House, where there are over 400 lawmakers and she's part of a 1-vote majority (I believe), where for weeks it's been signaled that the Speaker was increasingly likely to cave to pressure to bring a funding bill for Ukraine to vote.

  4. #38024
    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    How come these people who preach they just want it to be over and Ukraine should sue for peace never suggest this plan?
    The same reason they never suggest that Russia should just leave Ukraine, which apparently is just an unreasonable ask.

  5. #38025
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    When even a Ukraine-born lawmaker is questioning about more aid to Ukraine in this 2+ years of war with no end in sight, you know the Biden regime and the war backers in Europe screwed up. Glad more US lawmakers (and US voters) are realizing the futility of prolonging this war.

    Maybe she only changed her stance to get re-elected, since her primary opponent is campaigning against further aid to Kiev and I assume that is something her constituents want as well. She is based nonetheless, good on her for looking out for the interest of her constituents.
    Or you and your Russia simps can fucking grow up and realize the Russians are an existential threat to the US and fundamentally hate every single fucking thing about us and everything they do, they do ultimately to FUCK US first and foremost and the US has spent the last 70+ fucking years spending 98854703456035679 trillion fucking dollars to prepare for war with Russia, the same Russia who is the new closest fucking buddy of our new primary enemy coming the 21st century...China.

    Like once in your entire lifetime try to use those one and half braincells that your alcoholic step dad forgot to beat out of you to actually not be completely fucking idiotic.

    We could literally break Russia's back in half for a fucking measily 100 to 200 billion dollars without losing a single fucking life with a minimum effort while simultaneously deterring China and their little fucking dreams of for global domination.

    But you people are so fucking fucktarded that you've seen Vladimir Putin shirtless once and you can't stop masturbating and dreaming about Russia fucking you in the ass.
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  6. #38026
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    When even a Ukraine-born lawmaker is questioning about more aid to Ukraine in this 2+ years of war with no end in sight, you know the Biden regime and the war backers in Europe screwed up. Glad more US lawmakers (and US voters) are realizing the futility of prolonging this war.
    Yeah, apparently we should just let Russia conquer Ukraine because god forbid people die defending themselves, right? Even if Ukraine doesn't want to be conquered?
    Last edited by DarkTZeratul; 2024-04-08 at 06:06 PM.

  7. #38027
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    When even a Ukraine-born lawmaker is questioning about more aid to Ukraine in this 2+ years of war with no end in sight, you know the Biden regime and the war backers in Europe screwed up. Glad more US lawmakers (and US voters) are realizing the futility of prolonging this war.

    Maybe she only changed her stance to get re-elected, since her primary opponent is campaigning against further aid to Kiev and I assume that is something her constituents want as well. She is based nonetheless, good on her for looking out for the interest of her constituents.
    Or how about Russia stops escalating and goes back you paid off bot-shit.
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  8. #38028
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Or how about Russia stops escalating and goes back you paid off bot-shit.
    Primary Color is not a bot, just an absolute moron. Like catastrophically so.

  9. #38029
    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    Primary Color is not a bot, just an absolute moron. Like catastrophically so.
    Bots, paid off shills, russophiles and vatniks are all the same to me.
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  10. #38030
    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Bots, paid off shills, russophiles and vatniks are all the same to me.
    He's not even a Russophile. He just made taking the morally most despicable possible position on every subject a core element of his personality.

    If the consensus was that killing and eating little children is morally despicable, he'd argue in favor of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    He's not even a Russophile. He just made taking the morally most despicable possible position on every subject a core element of his personality.

    If the consensus was that killing and eating little children is morally despicable, he'd argue in favor of it.
    What do you mean IF? It IS the consensus...right?

  12. #38032
    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    What do you mean IF? It IS the consensus...right?
    Well somebody never read A Modest Proposal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    Primary Color is not a bot, just an absolute moron. Like catastrophically so.
    I thought of the druid guy ... because ya know... druids are true neutral.
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  14. #38034
    On the nukes thing.

    The reason why talking about nukes in the West is good is that it blunts putins mentions of nukes the times he does it. That way he just sounds lame and repetitive. Smol dickie pootin.

  15. #38035
    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    On the nukes thing.

    The reason why talking about nukes in the West is good is that it blunts putins mentions of nukes the times he does it. That way he just sounds lame and repetitive. Smol dickie pootin.
    I'm unironically curious how the Russians would react if American officials started Tweeting about nuking Russia or if Morning Joe on MSNBC did 1 hour segments pondering quizzical about which Russian cities should we nuke first, or the New York Times started publishing articles about how "the US has no borders", or have David Frum write articles about how Vladivostok should belong to the US?

  16. #38036
    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    I'm unironically curious how the Russians would react if American officials started Tweeting about nuking Russia or if Morning Joe on MSNBC did 1 hour segments pondering quizzical about which Russian cities should we nuke first, or the New York Times started publishing articles about how "the US has no borders", or have David Frum write articles about how Vladivostok should belong to the US?
    They would whine and cry like the small dick little bitches they are. It would be pathetic beta male crybaby energy of epic proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    I'm unironically curious how the Russians would react if American officials started Tweeting about nuking Russia or if Morning Joe on MSNBC did 1 hour segments pondering quizzical about which Russian cities should we nuke first, or the New York Times started publishing articles about how "the US has no borders", or have David Frum write articles about how Vladivostok should belong to the US?
    The only ones warmongering and full of hot air enough to do so are all republicans, and they love Russia.
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  18. #38038
    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    We could literally break Russia's back in half for a fucking measily 100 to 200 billion dollars without losing a single fucking life with a minimum effort
    Funny that you talk about how they could spending a 100 measly billion dollars to "break Russia's back" as you put it when the US has already invested close to that amount to Ukraine, and not to mention aid from European countries. The whole western world is essentially in a proxy war against Russia and Russia is still winning (they won Avdiivka recently). That is probably the worst return on investment in modern warfare.

    It is always easy to encourage others to fight a war from the comfort of your own home. Do you know that Ukraine is facing troop shortage? I heard the International Legion is looking for foreigners to fight their war, why don't you sign up since you like to cheerlead for "breaking another country's back"?"

  19. #38039
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    Funny that you talk about how they could spending a 100 measly billion dollars to "break Russia's back" as you put it when the US has already invested close to that amount to Ukraine, and not to mention aid from European countries. The whole western world is essentially in a proxy war against Russia and Russia is still winning (they won Avdiivka recently). That is probably the worst return on investment in modern warfare.

    It is always easy to encourage others to fight a war from the comfort of your own home. Do you know that Ukraine is facing troop shortage? I heard the International Legion is looking for foreigners to fight their war, why don't you sign up since you like to cheerlead for "breaking another country's back"?"
    Not really as Western countries only sent mostly outdated equipments and no combat forces. And those proves that "latest" and most modern Russian equipement are, sorry but true, dog shit (aka S400 and T14 Armata).

    And Russia already "lost" the war in the sense that they showed they were not a superpower as they pretended to be. They still may won against Ukraine but at what cost ?

  20. #38040
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNeutral View Post
    The whole western world is essentially in a proxy war against Russia and Russia is still winning (they won Avdiivka recently).
    You've got a dumb definition of "winning" if you think Russia is winning on any level in this war or the world right now. For three years they've essentially been forced to stave off a recession and every day it gets closer, they have a generation gap from all the fodder they keep throwing to the wood chipper, and they're using 60+ year old equipment.

    All of this just so Putin can feel like a man, a shame you bot employees are forced to watch the propaganda videos else you might hate him burning your economy down.

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