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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The difference is that while the far right loves russia, the radical left loathes the US and the West. They are backing russia for different reasons.
    And both groups are conveniently ignoring that Russia is an oppressive, authoritarian dictatorship that has committed countless war crimes and regularly assassinates those who speak out against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    And both groups are conveniently ignoring that Russia is an oppressive, authoritarian dictatorship that has committed countless war crimes and regularly assassinates those who speak out against them.
    The right doesn't ignore it, they want to be one themselves.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    Republican's hatred for Ukraine truly confused me for quite a while.

    The whole "Don't tread on me/patriotism/I'm a Western Chauvinist" crowd turned on a dime when running into an actual citizen army, fighting off an evil dictatorship in the name of God and Country and Western Values and free trade.

    I'm like these people right here are the living breathing incarnation of everything you people claimed to have stood for for the last 80 years.
    Protecting your financial interests abroad is as American as eating apple pie or the girl next door.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    The right doesn't ignore it, they want to be one themselves.
    And the radical left would become one anyway.

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    So analysts are saying Iran used the same technique that Russia uses when they fired that barrage of missiles and drones on Saturday. I think this is an important detail for the house republicans that support Isreal but not Ukraine, that by assisting one you are gaining information on both enemy tactics.... Maybe. I don't really know. But maybe the reason the Iranian attack failed so badly was that the west already had insight into the the strategy that Russia has been using for the last couple years in Ukraine.
    Or maybe I'm reaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    So analysts are saying Iran used the same technique that Russia uses when they fired that barrage of missiles and drones on Saturday. I think this is an important detail for the house republicans that support Isreal but not Ukraine, that by assisting one you are gaining information on both enemy tactics.... Maybe. I don't really know. But maybe the reason the Iranian attack failed so badly was that the west already had insight into the the strategy that Russia has been using for the last couple years in Ukraine.
    Or maybe I'm reaching.
    The reason why the Iranian attack didn't do diddly squat was...

    1. The Iranians spent the last 10 days warning they are going to do it. Giving everyone time to get ready, prepare, move assets into place.
    2. The attack was launched over a greater distance and over a third country (Jordan), with tons of early warning and radar systems in place, US/British and Jordanian.
    3. There were interceptors, missile and aerial assets in place from the US, UK and Jordan before a single missile or drone would have made it to Israel.
    4. Israel is fucking tiny. Like 4000 sq miles smaller than the Kharkiev Oblast of Ukraine alone. (8500 sq miles for Isreal, 12100 sq miles for Kharkiev Oblast), allowing for a massive concentration of air defenses.
    5. Israel proper is absolutely saturated with layered air defenses.

  7. #38127
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Russia is also a fascist state preaching ethono-nationalism that treats minorities and other ethnicities really badly and is extremely patriarchal.
    number of ethnicities Russia consists of: more than 190.
    You are a liar, and a russophobe, though being a westoid the latter must be a given.

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    They say our forces have killed some french frogs from the Foreign Legion near Slavyansk the other day.
    If it's true, Glory to Russian Weaponry!

    If it's false, I am eager to hear lamentations of french women later on. Frenchfries are good at dieing to Russian weaponry.

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    Do remind me please, who did say here, that investing in Ukrainians dieing in droves just to hurt Russia is the best kind of investition ever?
    Does that sound very democratic to you?

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    I'm sure Russia will claim victory...any day now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    number of ethnicities Russia consists of: more than 190.
    You are a liar, and a russophobe, though being a westoid the latter must be a given.

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    They say our forces have killed some french frogs from the Foreign Legion near Slavyansk the other day.
    If it's true, Glory to Russian Weaponry!

    If it's false, I am eager to hear lamentations of french women later on. Frenchfries are good at dieing to Russian weaponry.

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    Do remind me please, who did say here, that investing in Ukrainians dieing in droves just to hurt Russia is the best kind of investition ever?
    Does that sound very democratic to you?
    I'm probably fishing for an infraction and should know better to respond to trolls like you, but you really fit the typical Russian stereotype of being a lying, cheating, tool that puts his own best interests above even that of his poor baba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    I'm sure Russia will claim victory...any day now...
    Ukrainians are literally running out of, well, Ukrainians.
    There's a reason the drafting age is lowered
    There's a reason they are drafting even women
    There's a reason they put razorwire fence near Tisza river the other day
    There's a reason borders are closed for Ukrainain men so they won't escape
    There's a reason their comissars are doing incredible, awful, brutal and atrocious, inhumane acts of drafting people against their will and inspite of their medical or psychic conditions

    https://youtube.com/shorts/IeImMrgL1...hhLFFDpyFKp_yw
    That's how they draft

  11. #38131
    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Ukrainians are literally running out of, well, Ukrainians.
    And the current Russian "army" is no more than mercenaries, formerly imprisoned murderers, among other criminals..
    Meanwhile US aid is still in the millions with NATO expanding.

    An immense net loss for Russia that once boasted a large presence that intimidated, and now can only be viewed as a paper tiger made from used toilet paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    And the current Russian "army" is no more than mercenaries, formerly imprisoned murderers, among other criminals..
    Meanwhile US aid is still in the millions with NATO expanding.

    An immense net loss for Russia that once boasted a large presence that intimidated, and now can only be viewed as a paper tiger made from used toilet paper.
    Why the begging is heard from cocainsky's side, then?
    Why would he grovel and beg and plea for money, arms, support so much, then?
    Why'd he draft his fellow Ukrainians so violently, then? Why would he usurp power, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Why the begging is heard from cocainsky's side, then?
    Why would he grovel and beg and plea for money, arms, support so much, then?
    Why'd he draft his fellow Ukrainians so violently, then? Why would he usurp power, then?
    whenever a russian troll, shill or tankie types something I instantly tune out.

    The amount of bullshit in these 4 qeustions makes me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    whenever a russian troll, shill or tankie types something I instantly tune out.

    The amount of bullshit in these 4 qeustions makes me sick.
    Describe what do you see here, please:
    https://youtube.com/shorts/IeImMrgL1...5WlSWUjsnCUlPp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    whenever a russian troll, shill or tankie types something I instantly tune out. The amount of bullshit in these 4 qeustions makes me sick.
    It's telling how much the Putinistas either worship him, follow their ridiculous Putin-controlled media, or fear Putin.

    And of course their only response is youtube...lol!

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    Mister Piggy is back right on his schedule. Spamming two megathreads with propaganda and cross-referencing talking points between the two. Oh golly who could have expected this. In before Holan Heights talking points in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Mister Piggy is back right on his schedule. Spamming two megathreads with propaganda and cross-referencing talking points between the two. Oh golly who could have expected this. In before Holan Heights talking points in this thread.
    My favorite bit is YouTube Shorts being used as sources. I guess it's a step up from TikTok shorts lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    My favorite bit is YouTube Shorts being used as sources. I guess it's a step up from TikTok shorts lmao
    And just in time after Waffles got sent to a forum vacation. Coincidences or 5D chess? We'll never know! If Russia applied the same perfect choreography to their war doctrines, maybe they'll reach Kyiv after 30 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    And the radical left would become one anyway.
    There’s no radical left in US politics to be worried about. There is, however, a very real and dangerous far right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PgStckr View Post
    Describe what do you see here, please:
    https://youtube.com/shorts/IeImMrgL1...5WlSWUjsnCUlPp
    Hi, why do you consider YouTube shorts by nobodies to be adequate evidence?

    Because to most people it makes it look like you’re an uninformed loon at best, and a dishonest troll trying to sew misinformation with weak propaganda at worst.

    Anyway, NATO is kicking it with its two newest members that Russia is utterly powerless to act against. Which of course begs the question… if Russia was never a threat to Ukraine until they “threatened” to join a protective western alliance… then why did Ukraine feel the need to join a protective western alliance?
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Anyway, NATO is kicking it with its two newest members that Russia is utterly powerless to act against. Which of course begs the question… if Russia was never a threat to Ukraine until they “threatened” to join a protective western alliance… then why did Ukraine feel the need to join a protective western alliance?
    Russia really has worked tirelessly to boost NATO membership.
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