Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Specialka]

There’s no radical left in US politics to be worried about. There is, however, a very real and dangerous far right.

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Hi, why do you consider YouTube shorts by nobodies to be adequate evidence?

Because to most people it makes it look like you’re an uninformed loon at best, and a dishonest troll trying to sew misinformation with weak propaganda at worst.

Anyway, NATO is kicking it with its two newest members that Russia is utterly powerless to act against. Which of course begs the question… if Russia was never a threat to Ukraine until they “threatened” to join a protective western alliance… then why did Ukraine feel the need to join a protective western alliance?

The radical left is more of an issue in Europe than in US, yes. The far right is an issue in Europe as well.

[Corvus]

Sounds like Iran's attack on Israel has had the unexpected consequence of shaking the funding loose for Ukraine.

[Xyonai]

The difference is that while the far right loves russia, the radical left loathes the US and the West. They are backing russia for different reasons.

Yeah Tankies are another sort of dipshit. Ones that hold fuckall for political power - thank God - but are often still useful idiots for 'anti western' fascists when it comes to spreading discourse online.

[PgStckr]

Hi, why do you consider YouTube shorts by nobodies to be adequate evidence?

Hey.
I don't think it's relevant if the video presented is a youtube shorts or not. There's a whole 3 hours-long video on youtube called "3 hours of Ukrainian graveyards", would that suffice as evidence? After all, you can trust Cocainskyi when he says that only 31k Ukrainian troops were killed over 2 years, right?
You could do a little research on youtube with keyword "тцк" which is an abbreviature for Ukrainian drafting structure, and I'm fairly certain you'd find quite some material, though I suspect your side of the web won't show up much if anything.
Would you consider NYT column to be an adequate evidence?

Because to most people it makes it look like you’re an uninformed loon at best, and a dishonest troll trying to sew misinformation with weak propaganda at worst.

Well, most people in this thread look like they are full-blown russophobes, what with pejoratives, impotent hatred and equally impotent callings to "glass dem ruZZian orks", at best.
You know who else wanted to eradicate all Russians?

Anyway, NATO is kicking it with its two newest members

Instead of 3.

two newest members that Russia is utterly powerless to act against

Then why the fear mongering?
Why the shivering?
Why Cocainskyi continues to push the drugged-up narrative that if you don't help Ukraine now, then Poland and Proebalts will be next?
Russia is utterly powerless, right?

protective western alliance

Whom did nato protect when they bombed Belgrade with uranium fucking bombs?

[Kaleredar]

Hey.
I don't think it's relevant if the video presented is a youtube shorts or not. There's a whole 3 hours-long video on youtube called "3 hours of Ukrainian graveyards", would that suffice as evidence?

Then I refer you to the "nobodies" section.

Three hours of propaganda and lies by some Russian shill is still just as worthless. Just as empty as a youtube short or a documentary or some tankie's manifesto he scrawled out on a bathroom wall. Repeating a lie more times doesn't make it more true, honeypop. No matter how much that's Russia's M.O. these days.

After all, you can trust Cocainskyi when he says that only 31k Ukrainian troops were killed over 2 years, right?
You could do a little research on youtube with keyword "тцк" which is an abbreviature for Ukrainian drafting structure, and I'm fairly certain you'd find quite some material, though I suspect your side of the web won't show up much if anything.

The fuck would I go to any random nobody on youtube for any major news or opinion about anything?

Would you consider NYT column to be an adequate evidence?

You seem so in a tizzy about Ukraine's recruitment practices and I really have no understanding as to why.

You know what would stop Ukraine's recruitment to their armed forces? Russia leaving Ukraine. It could literally stop tomorrow. Russia could stop it.

Well, most people in this thread look like they are full-blown russophobes, what with pejoratives, impotent hatred and equally impotent callings to "glass dem ruZZian orks", at best.

Hmmm, could that have something to do with the

1) invading a sovereign foreign nation with the explicit intent of subsuming it into a vassal state
2) lying about any and all reasoning for doing so
3) doing so for the megalomaniacal dreams of a dictator
4) committing numerous war crimes and atrocities
5) continued targeting of civilians and civilian areas
6) kidnapping children for deportation back to Russia

That makes a country and the people who support it pretty detestable.


Yes, most people equate Russians with nazis these days. Why? Well, they're acting an awful lot like nazi germany. What qualitatively even differentiates Russia from Nazi germany at this point? Besides the utter lack of tactics and planning, of course. Is it that Russia hasn't technically rounded people up into extermination camps yet, and has settled only for the mass civilian graves?

You know who else wanted to eradicate all Russians?

*yawn*

Instead of 3.

NATO is +2 allies after all is said and done. If Russia had just done nothing NATO would probably be less powerful than they are now. You'd have a lot more now-dead Russians alive as well.

But here we are, two scary NATO members posed right on Russia's borders where they previously didn't exist. All Russia's invasion of Ukraine apparently proved to people on the fence about joining NATO is that they should do it and do it fast, not that they should be "scared of Russian repercussions."

Because they know all Russia can actually do is punch down. And even then, the little guy Ukraine, run by an apparently drunken and drug fueled comedian in drag (were you the one losing your shit about that? I can't remember you pro-russian accounts all just sorta blend together into a bland mush,) can smash Russia in the face with one hell of a haymaker.

Maybe Putin should have tried more military tactical planning and rooting out the egregious corruption and misappropriation at every level of his government instead of shirtless horseback riding.

Then why the fear mongering?
Why the shivering?
Why Cocainskyi continues to push the drugged-up narrative that if you don't help Ukraine now, then Poland and Proebalts will be next?
Russia is utterly powerless, right?

...so can Russia act against Sweden and Finland, or...

to which you then follow with "Russia just wants Ukraine, trust us!" Here's another thing to learn about the people's perception of Russia: the words they say ain't worth the paper they'd be written on.

The rest of us choose to learn from history, in which a megalomaniac with delusions of grandeur of rebuilding some imagined empirical glory attempts to march across Europe needs to be stopped posthaste, and not with appeasement or trusting their rotten word.

For you detesting nazis so much, you seem to sure support Russia acting exactly like them.

Whom did nato protect when they bombed Belgrade with uranium fucking bombs?

NATO started no war in Belgrade.


And of course that's whataboutism anyway. What someone else did a quarter of a century ago is not an excuse for what Russia is doing. Right now. Actively. Every day. For the past two years.

[PgStckr]

*yawn*

*yawn*


You sure love fighting strawmen. Also, something something, Russia bad.
I don't think you and I can have a good conversation.

[alach]

How is that straw man? He countered each one of your worthless statements with facts. He gave you more attention than you deserve, and I don't believe you are here to have a valid conversation with anyone.

[Kaleredar]

*yawn*


You sure love fighting strawmen. Also, something something, Russia bad.
I don't think you and I can have a good conversation.

I understand you might find it difficult to respond in non-YouTube short format and without the prompting of some middle-aged nobody broadcasting from his half-furnished basement, but give it a go eh?

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How is that straw man? He countered each one of your worthless statements with facts. He gave you more attention than you deserve, and I don't believe you are here to have a valid conversation with anyone.

These guys are really bad about getting the “pro-Russia” message out there. They’re supposed to overwhelm the discourse with confusion and misdirection so people fundamentally mistrust everything they hear… but there are so few of them that when one conjures up some easily debunkable drek 10 people pile on them pointing out how ludicrous they are and anyone happening on the thread is more likely to read one of the dozen posts pointing out how dumb they are and how terrible Russia is, and not any of their pro-Russia stuff.

[Dontrike]

*yawn*


You sure love fighting strawmen. Also, something something, Russia bad.
I don't think you and I can have a good conversation.

It's cute you think you have any good conversations with anyone. Russia most definitely is bad in this war they started, but you keep trying to earn that paycheck. Maybe one day you'll be employee of the month at the propaganda farm.

[PgStckr]

Anyway, back to dead frenchfries.
According to Pyotr Tolstoi, there were about 370 french mercs in Ukraine, with half of them already being dead by now.
Eagerly waiting for Macron to do the stupid and send more. Sunshines TOS-1a need target practice.

[Deus Mortis]

Anyway, back to dead frenchfries.
According to Pyotr Tolstoi, there were about 370 french mercs in Ukraine, with half of them already being dead by now.
Eagerly waiting for Macron to do the stupid and send more. Sunshines TOS-1a need target practice.

TOS explode nicely when hit.
Slight NSFW warning Link is a compilation of TOS going boom
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...lips_are_from/

Also this person you trust is a propagandist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_...y_(politician)

During the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, he advocated attacking power plants and other civilian infrastructure in Ukraine in order to bomb Ukraine back to the 18th century.

[Corvus]

If there were even a tenth that many French dead we would have heard about it. Something those coming from authoritarian states where all media is controlled by the state fail to understand is the nature of the free press. It would be in the news because there is one thing the free press loves to do is annoy the government.

Every time a single soldier died in Afghanistan or Iraq, it made the news. Soldiers dying in Ukraine would be massive news and the free press would be all over it.

[Shadowferal]

Russia needs a new...population. They seem to have lost an army and navy and almost all related vehicles.

[Corvus]

Russia needs a new...population. They seem to have lost an army and navy and almost all related vehicles.

Given how many they have fed to the meat grinder, evidence here shows they are scraping the bottom of the barrel for their troll farms too.

[PgStckr]

TOS explode nicely when hit.
Slight NSFW warning Link is a compilation of TOS going boom
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...lips_are_from/

Ukrainians get grounded nicely when hit.
Slight NSFW warning, a compilation of Ukraine cedeing ground to graveyards:

Also this person you trust is a propagandist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_...y_(politician)

Yes, and?
He's great, both figuratively and literally, you should definitely check out this one interview with a frenchie, it's a pleasure to behold, it's a joy to listen to:

[Gabriel]

So what did the vatniks lose this time for the undesirables to act up like this?

[Iphie]

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You know, your bosses don't really get their money's worth...or maybe they do and should offer more because you are ABYSMAL at this...

[Dontrike]

Yes, and?

"So what if they're a propagandist!" Couldn't be funnier if you tried.

Are you pulling a double shift or did your bot mate call off and you have to work double time?

[zealo]

So what did the vatniks lose this time for the undesirables to act up like this?

There seems to be some pretty severe flooding going on in Russia in places at the moment that they’re probably seeking to distract attention from.

[PgStckr]

Quite an interesting video I had just recalled.
Let's see if local residents can dismiss it as cheap propaganda by noname nobody.
Said noname nobody is Diana Panchenko, an Ukrainian journo.




me personally, I very much liked the moment at 28:15 mark when the woman is pleading to, and I quote: "protect us, don't return us to Ukraine".