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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Ukrainian aid is finally going up for vote. Pootie's stooges are upset, with Gaetz labelling it 'surrender.' Maybe he should go join all the other child sex offenders who have fled to russia.

    Interestingly, part of the bill requires sending ATACMS to Ukraine.
    Jesus, politicians truly are their own kind of psychopaths. Being able to say all that, while having stalled it for 6 months, and also smile on camera and meet Zelenskyy before.

    Why is lying suddenly not a sin?

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    It doesn't really come across as any surprise to me because nobody in this world is genuinely driven or motivated by altruism. And the average person can't really speak of if their morals would hold up when genuinely offered wealth or power.

    I'll be sincere and admit I would likely sell out a portion of the human race or my metaphorical soul itself if I was bribed with the prospects of infinite wealth if the risks did not outweigh the reward.

    That's the Republican mindset. Survival of the fittest, yourself above anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    It doesn't really come across as any surprise to me because nobody in this world is genuinely driven or motivated by altruism. And the average person can't really speak of if their morals would hold up when genuinely offered wealth or power.

    I'll be sincere and admit I would likely sell out a portion of the human race or my metaphorical soul itself if I was bribed with the prospects of infinite wealth and a cushy high-end life forever.

    That's the Republican mindset. Survival of the fittest, myself above others.
    You're entire existence on this forum (and possibly real life as well) has been to cause conflict and turmoil in the forum of "I'm just asking questions" and the mindset behind such musings have been quite disgusting. And the worst part is, you say it in such a way that you only ever get infracted/banned is because you fearmonger and cheer for a nuclear holocaust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Ukrainian aid is finally going up for vote. Pootie's stooges are upset, with Gaetz labelling it 'surrender.' Maybe he should go join all the other child sex offenders who have fled to russia.

    Interestingly, part of the bill requires sending ATACMS to Ukraine.
    Strangely enough, I think in no small part we have Iran attacking Isreal to thank for this.
    Either war, its good news, and with the F-16 training due to be finished within the next couple weeks, Ukraine can take back their skies and get a much needed morale boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    Strangely enough, I think in no small part we have Iran attacking Isreal to thank for this.
    Either war, its good news, and with the F-16 training due to be finished within the next couple weeks, Ukraine can take back their skies and get a much needed morale boost.
    F-16s will not be a "wonderweapon" and I seriously doubt they will change the battlefield calculus very much. They will certainly help Ukraine, but this war is proving that without complete air superiority and SEAD, the sky over battle lines is a very hostile place for aircraft. (For my own grain of salt, I'd suggest the US pull as many F-117A's out of mothballs as they can scrounge up volunteer ground crew for - this is the war they were built to fight.)
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    Right now the eastern front has been hammered by Russian jets far out of range of Ukraines AA lobbing glide bombs that apparently have been causing devastation and several recent losses. F-16s should be able to fix that.
    More ammo for the patriots won't hurt either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    It doesn't really come across as any surprise to me because nobody in this world is genuinely driven or motivated by altruism. And the average person can't really speak of if their morals would hold up when genuinely offered wealth or power.

    I'll be sincere and admit I would likely sell out a portion of the human race or my metaphorical soul itself if I was bribed with the prospects of infinite wealth if the risks did not outweigh the reward.
    I cannot stress enough how much you should seek professional help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    It doesn't really come across as any surprise to me because nobody in this world is genuinely driven or motivated by altruism. And the average person can't really speak of if their morals would hold up when genuinely offered wealth or power.

    I'll be sincere and admit I would likely sell out a portion of the human race or my metaphorical soul itself if I was bribed with the prospects of infinite wealth if the risks did not outweigh the reward.

    That's the Republican mindset. Survival of the fittest, yourself above anyone else.
    Tell us you're a sociopath without telling us you're a sociopath.

    Actually, it's telling us you're a sociopath by explicitly stating that you're a sociopath. It's telling that you can't even comprehend that not everyone thinks like you do.
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    The war will only end when Ukraine gets some of the West's doomsday weapons like ATACMS and Taurus, something that would make the Russian casualties rack up 10 times and make Pootie and his cronies very concerned.

    Until that happens, Ukraine will continue to be a money black hole for Western funds because Pootie can just spend an unlimited number of conscripts both Russian as well as North Korean and Pakistani, while Ukraine only has its own soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    It doesn't really come across as any surprise to me because nobody in this world is genuinely driven or motivated by altruism. And the average person can't really speak of if their morals would hold up when genuinely offered wealth or power.

    I'll be sincere and admit I would likely sell out a portion of the human race or my metaphorical soul itself if I was bribed with the prospects of infinite wealth if the risks did not outweigh the reward.

    That's the Republican mindset. Survival of the fittest, yourself above anyone else.
    That's not survival of the fittest. That's survival of the sociopath.
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    German authorities have arrested 2 russian agents who were planning sabotage missions in Germany.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...half-of-russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post

    Until that happens, Ukraine will continue to be a money black hole for Western funds because Pootie can just spend an unlimited number of conscripts both Russian as well as North Korean and Pakistani, while Ukraine only has its own soldiers.
    Money black hole? The US is paying pennies on the dollar to basically hamstring Russia on the global stage, all without risking a single American life. It's probably the best use of projected military money the US has spent in decades.

    That's not to say that the US and other countries shouldn't be sending more aid, more quickly, and with fewer Russia-supporting morons intervening. But the blow that Russia has taken to its standing as a supposed "superpower" and the stability of its future has been well worth the funding to Ukraine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    That's not survival of the fittest. That's survival of the sociopath.
    Exactly. Human survival depends on community, so the "fittest" is the person that plays well with others to accomplish mutual goals.
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    Tu-22 crashes according to interfax

    And who had NATO expansion into the southern Hemisphere on their bingo card?

    Argentina want to join NATO as a Global partner. But I've seen some reporting that they want to join as a full member. (Which I think can't happen dues to NATO statutes)
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    It's 30 years since the last tu22 was built so it can't be replaced. Given how far it was from Ukraine, it was either maintenance issues or russia shooting down another of their own planes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Given how far it was from Ukraine, it was either maintenance issues or russia shooting down another of their own planes.
    Pilot incompetence is another highly plausible option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    It's 30 years since the last tu22 was built so it can't be replaced. Given how far it was from Ukraine, it was either maintenance issues or russia shooting down another of their own planes.
    Ukraine claims it was them who took down the bomber.

    https://kyivindependent.com/air-forc...or-first-time/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Tu-22 crashes according to interfax

    And who had NATO expansion into the southern Hemisphere on their bingo card?

    Argentina want to join NATO as a Global partner. But I've seen some reporting that they want to join as a full member. (Which I think can't happen dues to NATO statutes)
    I mean... "North Atlantic Treaty Organization".

    Allowing Argentina in would need some serious rewriting of statutes...but...it would also open up a whole new set of options...like Australia, South Korea and Japan.

    Which would absolutely give the Chinese a mental breakdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    I mean... "North Atlantic Treaty Organization".

    Allowing Argentina in would need some serious rewriting of statues...but...it would also open up a whole new set of options...like Australia, South Korea and Japan.

    Which would absolutely give the Chinese a mental breakdown.
    While adding more "tension" globally. Would really be a glorious move to do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    While adding more "tension" globally. Would really be a glorious move to do now.
    America and other NATO states already have defence pacts with Japan and South Korea. The ones that don’t would lack the force projection to be able to honour them anyway.

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