Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

Ukraine is a big country and air defences are fairly short range so you would need a lot of them to cover everywhere vital.

[Kallisto]

Russia is only big in land area. They have only 144 million citizens, which is pitiful for the area they cover.

Just to add to this for comparison. The island of Java in Indonesia has a greater population than Russia and is smaller than Great Britain in size.

[Corvus]

Russia probably never had 144 million anyway. They lie about everything and I doubt population numbers are any different.

Of course since then you've had a million having fled the country as well as a few hundred thousand being killed.

[Veggie50]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersu...h=2d7445534008
https://cepa.org/article/ukraine-is-winning/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...e-kyiv/629514/

If Ukraine is winning and Russia is running out of ammunition and missiles, why does the US need to provide Patriot missiles to Ukraine?

I think its hilarious that you try to mock zelenski as a crybaby with a pic where he looks like a terminator badass

[TrueNeutral]

I think its hilarious that you try to mock zelenski as a crybaby with a pic where he looks like a terminator badass

But he is a crybaby. A terrible leader who caused the deaths of many of citizens hiding behind a failing macho image constructed by his PR people.
Clownlensky is probably the worst president in Ukraine's history. He was naïve enough not to see what happens when you poke the bear. His biggest mistake? Not being pragmatic and building bridges with Russia (that's what you should do when you have a neighbor like Russia and you're not in any military alliance), and trusting the world's number one troublemaker and warmonger, America.

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[Benggaul]

Maybe one day this forum will have actual moderation instead of whatever the fuck allows obvious ban-evading Russian propaganda accounts to pop up whenever their laughable temporary bans are up.

Until then, fuck every one of these low-effort trolls. Report them, ignore them and hope one day they outlive their usefulness in the troll farm and get sent to the front.

[Corvus]

Meanwhile crybaby pootie is desperately begging places like Iran and North Korea for help.

[Dontrike]

But he is a crybaby.

All the while Putin needs multiple countries to help what was supposedly the 2nd strongest country in the world. Guess Russia isn't all that strong, poor Ruzzki.

[Kaleredar]

But he is a crybaby.

So big strong Russia is being pushed back... by a crybaby?

Big strong Russia failed, despite all of their literal years of preparations and shirtless horseback riding, to win a three-day operation... against a crybaby?

Is that what you're saying, here? Because if Russia hasn't succeeded... which is true... and Zelensky is a crybaby... which is what you're contending, then you are, in fact, saying "Russia is failing against a crybaby."

Damn, the only thing worse than being in a country run by a crybaby must be being in a country that loses to the country run by a crybaby. Were you the person who was also losing your shit over how zelensky was a clown and had dressed in drag? Because that's the kind of guy apparently capable of holding Russia off.



More to what I can only remotely assume is your "point," literally zero people give a single fuck about Zelensky asking other nations for help. I have no idea why you keep banging on about this when literally nobody cares and pretending that you're making some sort of "point." If these are the sort of "memes" being tossed around Russia to try and drum up support for the invasion then no wonder you guys have been losing the narrative fight from day one. Because it's pretty damn pathetic. Almost as pathetic as losing to a crybaby. Which I guess they're also doing. So it's really just pathetic all around.

Far more pathetic than Ukraine asking other countries for aid. Countries who, outside of a few bad-faith elements, are more than happy to supply it. Maybe Russia should have tried making friends instead of alienating everyone who doesn't consider them a cheap gas station. Russia is in no place to judge strategy, seeing as whatever it is they're doing they seem to be pretty remarkably bad at it.

[Vampiregenesis]

Is Ukraine falling apart?

Everyday I read that they retreated from somewhere, today they retreated from novokalinovo, their politicians are desperate for more men, how much territory will they lose until they stabilize and make a comeback with the western help?

On ocheretino, they didn't even resist, they just left right away, it appears that their morale is on the bottom and their young are trying their best to avoid enlisting because it's essentially a death sentence.

Btw I read the above from pro-Ukraine accounts that hate Putin.

[Makabreska]

Is Ukraine falling apart?

Everyday I read that they retreated from somewhere, today they retreated from novokalinovo, their politicians are desperate for more men, how much territory will they lose until they stabilize and make a comeback with the western help?

On ocheretino, they didn't even resist, they just left right away, it appears that their morale is on the bottom and their young are trying their best to avoid enlisting because it's essentially a death sentence.

Btw I read the above from pro-Ukraine accounts that hate Putin.

Didn't you call all of us here "Western vatniks", went away looking for a "Russian point of view" and said you are never coming back?

I see ruzzkies are on the rise. Were you all activated by USA help being finally approved?

[Elder Millennial]

Well no, they won't. Hungary and Turkey can postpone their application indefinetly, stopping them from becoming a NATO member before Russia attacks again.

You are assuming a couple of things here.

1. That the political scene in Hungary and Turkey remains the same forever.
2. That Hungary and Turkey don't actually want Ukraine in NATO or that keeping Ukraine out of NATO is a political hill either of them is willing to die on.

Hungary can be both circumvented and bullied into agreeing. We have already seen this happen several times. They are fucking annoying to deal with, but there's a point where both the EU and NATO had enough, told Orban to STFU and sign on the dotted line or get fucked. Guess what, he signed on the dotted line.

Turkey can be bought. They are not as close to Russia as you think they are. They are more cordial with it than the EU or US but they give exactly zero fucks about what the Kremlin wants or doesn't want from them. Turkey does whatever benefits Turkey. Them dragging their feet on Sweden and Finland had not a single fucking thing to do with keeping Russia happy, it was them trying to get political and defense contracting concessions from the EU and the US.

[Makabreska]

You are assuming a couple of things here.

1. That the political scene in Hungary and Turkey remains the same forever.

Dunno about that part. After taking control of media and whatnot, Orban has really welded himself to the office. Erdoğan also managed to win elections last year with rampaging inflation and after that disastrous earthquake that exposed government the corruption and incompetence.

Like you said, it is easier to just finally strong-arm Orban than wait for a political change.

[Deus Mortis]

Is Ukraine falling apart?

Everyday I read that they retreated from somewhere, today they retreated from novokalinovo, their politicians are desperate for more men, how much territory will they lose until they stabilize and make a comeback with the western help?

On ocheretino, they didn't even resist, they just left right away, it appears that their morale is on the bottom and their young are trying their best to avoid enlisting because it's essentially a death sentence.

Btw I read the above from pro-Ukraine accounts that hate Putin.

Welcome to Russia's advantage in having 3x the population to pull from with a far bigger stockpile of equipment and weapons. Russia will be able to keep taking small swaths of land as they send wave after wave. All you need to do is use this link:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#7/48.052/35.332
go back to 4/19/2022, and then compare how much land Russia had back then to now. Russia is still nowhere close to recapturing the land they captured once already. You will also see that when Ukraine loses land it is like a field or a small village, while it blows it is really not that big of a deal. There has been no major land changes in years at the battlefield is pretty static atm. The fact that Russia can't recapture what they once already got and it has been 2 years since then and they are supposed to be #2 superpower shows how pathetic they truly are.

[Gigantique]

Too many people make the mistake in assuming that all of the GOP are stupid, and folks like Greene, Boebert and such certainly don't help, but don't attribute to ignorance what is easily explained by malice.

This, much of it is stupidity but, I would wager, a lot if not most of it is them trying to game the political arena in the US in the short term for their personal gains and damn the results otherwise.

See simultaneously crying about the murdering rapistmurderers flowing freely across the border and being given free knives and books with the addresses of all nearby women upon entry while also blocking the border bill.

[Deus Mortis]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-buys-8...145127753.html
US buys 81 Soviet-era combat aircraft from Russia's ally costing on average less than $20,000 each, report says

The US has acquired 81 Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan, the Kyiv Post reported.

Kazakhstan, which is upgrading its air fleet, auctioned off 117 Soviet-era fighter and bomber aircraft, including MiG-31 interceptors, MiG-27 fighter bombers, MiG-29 fighters, and Su-24 bombers from the 1970s and 1980s.

The declared sale value was one billion Kazakhstani tenge, or $2.26 million, said the Post.

The US purchased 81 of the aged warplanes, said the Ukrainian Telegram channel Insider UA, per the Post.

The motive behind the US purchase remains undisclosed, said the Post, but it raised the possibility of their potential use in Ukraine, where similar aircraft are in service.

The sale was made through offshore companies, said Reporter, a Russian English language news site.

Given Ukraine's continued reliance on Soviet-era weapons, the aircraft could either serve as a source of spare parts or be strategically deployed as decoys at airfields, said the Post.

The Mikoyan MiG-31 was a supersonic interceptor designed to defend Soviet airspace, according to Airforce Technology. It played a critical role during the Cold War.

Derived from the MiG-23, the MiG-27 was a ground-attack aircraft and saw action in conflicts like the Soviet-Afghan War.

The agile MiG-29 excelled in air-to-air combat. It was widely exported and remains in service with some air forces.

Despite its age, the Su-24 - an all-weather tactical bomber - remains in service with several air forces, including the Russian Aerospace Forces and Ukrainian Air Force.

Kazakhstan, formerly part of the Soviet Union, has maintained close ties to Russia and historically was one of its strongest allies. But the relationship between the two countries has shifted since Russia invaded Ukraine, with Kazakhstan aligning itself more with the West, drawing the fury of some in Russia.

But the Central Asian country's efforts to upgrade its military capabilities coincide with its increasing engagement with Western nations, signaling a shift away from historical ties with Moscow, per the Kyiv Post's analysis.

President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev's visit to Germany in 2023 underscored Kazakhstan's commitment to international sanctions against Russia.

Kazakhstan and Western nations are showing increasing cooperation, with recent diplomatic engagements including a visit from UK Foreign Minister David Cameron to Astana, the capital.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited the central Asian country in March 2023, where he said that the US "strongly supports Kazakhstan's sovereignty, its independence, its territorial integrity," according to news agency AFP.

Some of Russia's outspoken propagandists have suggested that Russia should look to Kazakhstan next following its invasion of Ukraine.

One notable Russian TV commentator, Vladimir Solovyov, said that his country "must pay attention to the fact that Kazakhstan is the next problem because the same Nazi processes can start there as in Ukraine."

Agreements on trade, education, environment, and mineral supplies reflect the deepening ties between Kazakhstan and Western nations as they navigate geopolitical challenges posed by neighboring countries like Russia, China, Afghanistan, and Iran.

What a steal. Even if they don't work that is money well spent in use as decoys, and if they do work or have spare parts that can be used to repair Ukraine's planes even better.

[YUPPIE]

If Kazakhstan is a Russian ally, that raises the question of why they would help the US, and also why Russia doesn't retaliate against Kazak for it.

EDIT: Didn't read the second half, my bad. The bit where they vow to invade it as retaliation.

[Gorsameth]

If Kazakhstan is a Russian ally, that raises the question of why they would help the US, and also why Russia doesn't retaliate against Kazak for it.

EDIT: Didn't read the second half, my bad. The bit where they vow to invade it as retaliation.

They were a Russian ally. They are now aligned with China and just days ago signed an agreement for closer military cooperation.
With Russia showing they can't protect anyone and not in a position to bully while their army is tied up in Ukraine, a bunch of Russian satellite states on the eastern border have take the opportunity to flee into China's shadow.

Russia can vow all they want, China is going to tell them to sit and behave like you do a disobedient dog.

[DarkTZeratul]

But he is a crybaby. A terrible leader who caused the deaths of many of citizens

Yes, it's the leader of the country who got invaded who killed his citizens, not the country doing the invading.

Fuck off with your victim-blaming you Russian shill.

[NoiseTank13]

Yes, it's the leader of the country who got invaded who killed his citizens, not the country doing the invading.

Fuck off with your victim-blaming you Russian shill.

No, see, if he just rolled over and allowed a foreign army into his country, everything would be fine! Really!