Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Poopymonster]

The aid we have sent so far is tax money well spent. The less hostile of a future russia has, the better.

Lots of weapons testing, even older stuff done.
Cleared out old stuff, gotta restock that, that's jobs.
0 of our soldiers being shot for corporate profits.
This alone should clear the way for more funding for them.
Well, maybe not the last one. But they are making money from this.

[Voidism]

Lots of weapons testing, even older stuff done.
Cleared out old stuff, gotta restock that, that's jobs.
0 of our soldiers being shot for corporate profits.
This alone should clear the way for more funding for them.
Well, maybe not the last one. But they are making money from this.

Well, I am making money from not dying in the future due to what could have been shortsightedness today. :P

If the monetary system collapses due to putin invading all of Europe, everyone here will lose. Not just investors!

[Makabreska]

Well, I am making money from not dying in the future due to what could have been shortsightedness today. :P

If the monetary system collapses due to putin invading all of Europe, everyone here will lose. Not just investors!

Let's maybe get back to the realm of reality.

[Gaidax]

Ukraine reports half a million russian casualties.

That's a lot

Even if it's over reported that's still a lot of piggies removed from play.

I think it's as much of a BS as Russian 40 or, so HIMARS launchers destroyed or how many they counted so far.

The real number is probably less than a third of that, which still is a good job given the circumstances.

[Santti]

Well, I am making money from not dying in the future due to what could have been shortsightedness today. :P

If the monetary system collapses due to putin invading all of Europe, everyone here will lose. Not just investors!

How long has Russia been stuck in Ukraine again, with it's kitchen sink approach of throwing literal WW2 era shit at the problem, with a half a million dead Russkies already? And you think it might still have the strength to invade... all of Europe, which would also include US, because NATO? And that Russian economy would outlast the European one?

Are you under the impression we are in a video game, or something?

[Deus Mortis]

I think it's as much of a BS as Russian 40 or, so HIMARS launchers destroyed or how many they counted so far.

The real number is probably less than a third of that, which still is a good job given the circumstances.

Yeah I bet it is around 30-40%. I base this off of what we have confirmed as destroyed/damaged tank wise:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html
Tanks (3054, of which destroyed: 2047, damaged: 156, abandoned: 335, captured: 516)

Even at those numbers though it is far higher than Russia can replace. Losing 15,945(11,407 confirmed destroyed) vehicles is a lot.

[Iphie]

Yeah I bet it is around 30-40%. I base this off of what we have confirmed as destroyed/damaged tank wise:
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html
Tanks (3054, of which destroyed: 2047, damaged: 156, abandoned: 335, captured: 516)

Even at those numbers though it is far higher than Russia can replace. Losing 15,945(11,407 confirmed destroyed) vehicles is a lot.

Oryx isn't on the ground locally though so they rely on report, and can miss a lot. These numbers are the ones estimated by the Ukrainians who, admittedly, have an interest in overestimating but also a better idea of what they've shot.

[Endus]

If the monetary system collapses due to putin invading all of Europe, everyone here will lose. Not just investors!

Be serious. Russia's not even able to take Ukraine, which didn't even have a strong military at the outset. Pick any one major European nation by themselves and they'd spank the crap out of Russia and it wouldn't even be close, take all of NATO and Russia would no longer exist as a country by the end of it. It would be a protectorate run by NATO until it pulls its head out of its own ass.

[Fuiking]

Be serious. Russia's not even able to take Ukraine, which didn't even have a strong military at the outset. Pick any one major European nation by themselves and they'd spank the crap out of Russia and it wouldn't even be close, take all of NATO and Russia would no longer exist as a country by the end of it. It would be a protectorate run by NATO until it pulls its head out of its own ass.

Not the netherlands lol.

[Iphie]

Not the netherlands lol.

I would argue that the Netherlands is only a major country economically speaking...of course with the latest elections I'm ready to burn it down. (Fucking Wilders.)

[Voidism]

How long has Russia been stuck in Ukraine again, with it's kitchen sink approach of throwing literal WW2 era shit at the problem, with a half a million dead Russkies already? And you think it might still have the strength to invade... all of Europe, which would also include US, because NATO? And that Russian economy would outlast the European one?

Are you under the impression we are in a video game, or something?

I'm unsure what you're disagreeing with here mate.

Like I said, thanks to our investment in weapons for Ukraine, we are surviving too. An investor should have a self-interest in helping Ukraine because if the monetary system collapses, the rich's money is useless anyways. And yes, the system would collapse if putin decided he can take on Europe due to us not helping Ukraine (showing weakness). putin is not someone who cares about russia in the end. He will do things that might sound absurd and we need to slap him for even considering certain actions.

Honestly, your post is a bit confusing. What exactly do you disagree with?

[Santti]

I'm unsure what you're disagreeing with here mate.

Like I said, thanks to our investment in weapons for Ukraine, we are surviving too. An investor should have a self-interest in helping Ukraine because if the monetary system collapses, the rich's money is useless anyways. And yes, the system would collapse if putin decided he can take on Europe due to us not helping Ukraine (showing weakness). putin is not someone who cares about russia in the end. He will do things that might sound absurd and we need to slap him for even considering certain actions.

Honestly, your post is a bit confusing. What exactly do you disagree with?

For the love of God.

I can't. I just can't. Quote the other guys like Endus and talk to them. Russia is not the superpower you are making it out to be.

[Iphie]

Did this fly under the radar?

I mean should Hungary maybe leave the Alliance and the EU? They're getting to be more trouble then they're worth.

[diller]

I mean should Hungary maybe leave the Alliance and the EU? They're getting to be more trouble then they're worth.

I wish they would just opt out all together, I'm also sick of them.

[Makabreska]

I wish they would just opt out all together, I'm also sick of them.

For as long as they get that sweet sweet EU money, they wont.

[Kallisto]

I wish they would just opt out all together, I'm also sick of them.

They get money, they have veto rights. They're not going to leave. Being in both is just too beneficial for them. Hell, even Article 5 (and the EU equivalent) doesn't mean they have to do anything but "Support in their own way." which could mean as little as "Yay go you."

[Corvus]

In the light of the most recent russian terrorist strike, Sweden has given the go ahead to strike inside russia with weapons it has supplied.

I wouldn't have picked Sweden to be first, but hopefully it puts more pressure on the footdraggers in the US and Germany.

[Kaleredar]

In the light of the most recent russian terrorist strike, Sweden has given the go ahead to strike inside russia with weapons it has supplied.

I wouldn't have picked Sweden to be first, but hopefully it puts more pressure on the footdraggers in the US and Germany.

Queue the inevitable Russian whining of "Why how come does Ukraine get to attack Russia now? Only we get to attack them! Look at all the innocent Russian people they're putting in jeopardy!"

Absolute hypocrite crocodile tears.

[Elder Millennial]

Did this fly under the radar?

I mean should Hungary maybe leave the Alliance and the EU? They're getting to be more trouble then they're worth.

This is what happens when you create systems with the assumption that everyone is going to uphold the principles as originally agreed upon and behave with a degree of consistency, principle and honesty.

Neither the EU nor NATO have clear mechanisms for booting an unruly member. Because when these organization were created nobody thought such mechanisms would be necessary. Just like how in the US our entire electoral system is built on the assumption that everyone involved believes in goofy things like "rule of law", "fair elections", "peaceful transfer of power" without clear mechanisms to deal with people who disregard those things when in power.

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Germany.

The odds of that are zero. Remember, they still haven't supplied a single Taurus. The Germans do provide massive amounts of aid of all sorts, just don't expect them to be the ones to provide anything first or anything that could be used to REALLY hit the RuZZians where it hurts.

Really the important party to convince here is the US and the people now providing the F-16s and the ammo for the F-16s.

[Ulmita]

Be serious. Russia's not even able to take Ukraine, which didn't even have a strong military at the outset. Pick any one major European nation by themselves and they'd spank the crap out of Russia and it wouldn't even be close, take all of NATO and Russia would no longer exist as a country by the end of it. It would be a protectorate run by NATO until it pulls its head out of its own ass.

Ukraine has one of the best armies in the world currently. It's one of two countries that have experience in real modern - high intensity warfare (and not shooting people on horses / camels). Ukraine is also been funneled weapons and intelligence by NATO in amounts that remind world wars.

There is no European country that can fight the Russians alone and i really doubt that the US could even win such war. Best case scenario would be to mutually get destroyed. Remember that it took 20 years and over 2 trillion USD to replace taliban with taliban I don't think they would win vs someone that can fight back and especially with someone that can attack their cities.

If you truly believe that Russia is such a pushover why noone has sent troops to Ukraine yet? We are all scared dude, it's that simple. Russia has a million ways to hurt the US, from very simple and fast (just blow up the internet backbone, and see MS / Google / Amazon / etc stocks going 1/20th) to blowing up satellites etc. Noone in their right mind want to fight such war.

This war is the result of having 0 politicians in the EU and US that are not clowns. Think hard what you'll vote in next Euroelections EU folks. I wont be voting for the current warmongering political party in Greece.