Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Muzjhath]

Russia might not rebel, but countries depending on grain imports might. Egypt comes to mind foremost and they have been unstable for the past decade to begin with.

Which in and off itself is hilarious from a historical perspective.

Egypt used to be the biggest grain producer around the med.

[Flarelaine]

Which in and off itself is hilarious from a historical perspective.

Egypt used to be the biggest grain producer around the med.

That was before the Aswan dam (Soviet-style brainless industrialisation) fucked with the yearly flooding of the Nile which used to make the floodplains so fertile.

[Azadina]

Nah, history is pretty clear on that, rising food prices equal dangerous times for dictators and tyrants. Even for those in russia in these times.

Recent history is even more clear, that any dissenters in mordor are arrested. Many of those arrested are then sent to the Ukraine front as bullet magnets, so that the more experienced troops around get a visual on exact Ukrainian positions.

No kind of rebellion will happen, even if magically 1% of orks wake up one morning, and realise they have mysterious spine growing in them.

[Elder Millennial]

That was before the Aswan dam (Soviet-style brainless industrialisation) fucked with the yearly flooding of the Nile which used to make the floodplains so fertile.

Actually... technically....the dam tripled agricultural output since the 1970s. It also made rice and sugar cane production viable.

Yes, it has a lot of issues and downsides (agriculture is now only viable due to artificial fertilizers), but broadly speaking, that's not the problem here.

Egypt had a population of 34 million in 1970. Today it's 111 million. If you factor in things like increased standards of living (they did increase), need for cash crops (citrus, strawberries and onions) etc it's understandable how population growth and consumption levels far outpaced any benefits provided by the dam.

Honestly, if the population growth trend holds, there's just no way for Egypt to be self sustaining agriculturally dam or no dam.

[Flarelaine]

Actually... technically....the damn tripled agricultural output since the 1970s. It also made rice and sugar cane production viable.

Yes, it has a lot of issues and downsides (agriculture is now only viable due to artificial fertilizers), but broadly speaking, that's not the problem here.

Egypt had a population of 34 million in 1970. Today it's 111 million. If you factor in things like increased standards of living (they did increase), need for cash crops (citrus, strawberries and onions) etc it's understandable how population growth and consumption levels far outpaced any benefits provided by the dam.

Honestly, if the population growth trend holds, there's just no way for Egypt to be self sustaining agriculturally dam or no dam.

Thank you for correcting me and adding details. Overpopulation is a major issue but the last figure I recalled was ~80 million, 111 is just mindblowing.

So they made up for the yearly deposits from the flood by using fertilisers. Fertilisers are another market sector impacted by the war - they used to be a major export of Russia, so much so that some African countries are/were entirely reliant on them and, if I recall correctly, even production outside Russia used to use a lot of Russian gas.

https://www.ifpri.org/blog/russia-uk...nd-trade-flows

[Gorsameth]

Thank you for correcting me and adding details. Overpopulation is a major issue but the last figure I recalled was ~80 million, 111 is just mindblowing.

So they made up for the yearly deposits from the flood by using fertilisers. Fertilisers are another market sector impacted by the war - they used to be a major export of Russia, so much so that some African countries are/were entirely reliant on them and, if I recall correctly, even production outside Russia used to use a lot of Russian gas.

https://www.ifpri.org/blog/russia-uk...nd-trade-flows

To put it simply, Egypt is the 14th most populated country on the planet, with a total area of farmable land the size of the Netherlands.

Its simply impossible to feed its exploding population on the amount of land they have available.

[Corvus]

Biggest tragedy of the Aswan dam was the flooding of the archaeological evidence of the medieval Nubian kingdom of Makuria. Polish archaeologists were able to hastily recover some amazing finds but far too much now lies beneath the water.

Sweden just announced a very large support package, including a large number of recently retired APCs and also its 2 Saab 340 AWACs. These are smaller than the ones other counties use, but still have a 400km range radar meaning they can stay well outside missile range and still fly in Ukraine keeping an eye on russian assets. With the first f16s due soon, armed with amraam missiles, and the AWACSs directing them, it will hopefully cause issues for russian planes.

And speaking of Ukrainian f16s - they flew their first mission. On a trip to Brussels, Zelensky's plane was escorted by armed F16s piloted by Ukrainian pilots.

[alach]

And speaking of Ukrainian f16s - they flew their first mission. On a trip to Brussels, Zelensky's plane was escorted by armed F16s piloted by Ukrainian pilots.

Love to see it.

[Ihavewaffles]

invited to the UK parliament, hmmm...those symbols look familiar... will they get invited to the Knesset I wonder?..

[MCMLXXXII]

IIRC Johnson isn't a MP anymore...

[Ihavewaffles]

Any of these guys are?




this guy in the middle sure is, john whittingdale

picture is even from his own website

[NED funded]

IIRC Johnson isn't a MP anymore...

Istg the way Russians talk abt Boris Johnson, its like he is single handedly keeping the war afloat

[Xyonai]

So what atrocity or embarrassing blunder did Russia commit recently that we're throwing out these stupid distractions?

[Corvus]

Meanwhile not a peep about putin meeting and awarding people with actual swastika and waffen ss tattoos.

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So what atrocity or embarrassing blunder did Russia commit recently that we're throwing out these stupid distractions?

The west is finally giving permission to use its weapons to hit targets in russia and they are worried.

[Xyonai]

Meanwhile not a peep about putin meeting and awarding people with actual swastika and waffen ss tattoos.

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The west is finally giving permission to use its weapons to hit targets in russia and they are worried.

Yeah that'd do it.

[Kaleredar]

invited to the UK parliament, hmmm...those symbols look familiar... will they get invited to the Knesset I wonder?..

Sorry what are we supposed to care about in contrast to what Russia did, has done, and is doing?

[Iphie]

The west is finally giving permission to use its weapons to hit targets in russia and they are worried.

Seems that, so far, putin's response is: we need a bigger buffer zone, almost as if he realizes that he can't escalate further without doing something so monumentally stupid that russia will find itself invaded from literally ALL sides including from China.

[zorkuus]

Hey ruZZki, if you're looking for nazis, the good news is you don't have to look further than ruZZia.

[Saradain]

Thank you Waffles, it is nice to see old pictures of heroes defending their homeland from modern nazi invasion being celebrated. Also congratulations for your graduation from maps to symbols.

[YUPPIE]

From what has been circulating, it seems the gloves are coming off for Ukraine to strike inside Russia itself.