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    US arming Nazi's, ok that's a bit facetious but we all know that's how russia will twist it.

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    Just to make sure it's clear before piggy shows up, the point of the news stories is that they have been proven to not be nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    US arming Nazi's, ok that's a bit facetious but we all know that's how russia will twist it.
    That has to be one of the most spam-filled websites i've ever seen. Here is the arcticle for those not wanting to disable adblock.

    June 10 (Reuters) - The Biden administration will lift its ban on allowing a controversial Ukrainian military unit to use U.S. weapons, the Washington Post reported on Monday, citing State Department officials.
    The State Department reversed a decade-old prohibition on the Azov Brigade from using American training and weapons after a new analysis found no evidence of human rights violations by the unit, the Post reported.

    "After thorough review, Ukraine’s 12th Special Forces Azov Brigade passed Leahy vetting as carried out by the U.S. Department of State,” the State Department said in a statement obtained by the newspaper. The State Department did not immediately reply to a request for comment from Reuters.
    The Leahy Law bars U.S. military assistance to foreign units found to have committed such violations.
    The Azov Regiment, which has far-right and ultra-nationalist roots, is part of Ukraine's National Guard and evolved out of a battalion that was formed in 2014 and fought against Russian-backed separatists who carved out breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine.

    The regiment is lionized in Ukraine for defending the country against Russia's invasion and in particular the southern city of Mariupol, but they are reviled by Russian President Vladimir Putin's Kremlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghotihook View Post
    That has to be one of the most spam-filled websites i've ever seen. Here is the arcticle for those not wanting to disable adblock.
    Reuters? Spam filled? Must be you.

    Anyway, seems that Armenia is leaving the CSTO.

    Politico on the matter.

    YEREVAN, Armenia — Armenia will formally withdraw from its military alliance with Moscow, the country’s prime minister announced Wednesday, as tensions grow with Russia.

    Nikol Pashinyan declared in parliament that “we will leave” the Kremlin’s Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), and that “we will decide the timing of our exit.”

    “It turned out that the members of the alliance are not fulfilling their contractual obligations, but are planning a war against us with Azerbaijan,” he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Reuters? Spam filled? Must be you.
    I get a couple nag screens asking if I want to subscribe, but yeah, not really any "spam". I wouldn't expect that from Reuters.

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    No point being in a defensive alliance that can't/won't defend you.

    The CSTO died the moment Russia had its hands to full to do anything.
    Wonder if Armenia will look to China for a defensive pact or NATO.

    Trying to leave the Russian sphere of influence has proven to be a dangerous prospect to do alone.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    No point being in a defensive alliance that can't/won't defend you.

    The CSTO died the moment Russia had its hands to full to do anything.
    Wonder if Armenia will look to China for a defensive pact or NATO.

    Trying to leave the Russian sphere of influence has proven to be a dangerous prospect to do alone.
    Russia doesn’t have the capacity to fight the war they’re in now, let alone starting shit in Armenia.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Wonder if Armenia will look to China for a defensive pact or NATO.

    Turkey is a close friend and "ally" of Azerbaijan and opposes Armenia. They'll never let Armenia join NATO. Turkey's geopolitical goal is to rip Armenia further to create land bridge with Azerbaijan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Turkey is a close friend and "ally" of Azerbaijan and opposes Armenia. They'll never let Armenia join NATO. Turkey's geopolitical goal is to rip Armenia further to create land bridge with Azerbaijan.
    Wrong,their goal is the extermination of all Armenians and the complete seizure of their lands,basically what they are doing to the Kurds in Syria right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanrefni View Post
    Wrong,their goal is the extermination of all Armenians and the complete seizure of their lands,basically what they are doing to the Kurds in Syria right now.
    You could say that is what they'd prefer to do, but as it stands they cannot so their primary geopolitical goal is to create a land bridge to Azerbaijan and aid them in that, both openly and covertly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Russia doesn’t have the capacity to fight the war they’re in now, let alone starting shit in Armenia.
    And we all know Russia never harbours a grudge right.

    They can do little now, they will do shit in the future.

    And yes I forgot Turkey still denies the Armenian genocide.
    China it is then.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    That impact's gonna leave a mark

    That's a collapse alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    That impact's gonna leave a mark

    That's a collapse alright.
    we hadn't yet? what?
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Wow!

    Feelsgoodman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    And we all know Russia never harbours a grudge right.

    They can do little now, they will do shit in the future.

    And yes I forgot Turkey still denies the Armenian genocide.
    China it is then.
    They might harbor a grudge but the list of countries that Russia could theoretically hold a grudge against isn’t too far off from one that’s just a list of every country on earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    we hadn't yet? what?
    No, both the US and the EU have been, up to now, playing relatively nice with Russia, freezing assets but not outright sanctioning them.

    But with this, and the EU transferring frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, looks like they're tired of Russia's shit now.

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    I'm not really seeing anything about this Russian stock nosedive in the news anywhere, so grain of salt until then.

    I am, however, seeing lots of Russian propaganda about how their stock exchange suspended all US dollar and Euro trading "crippling" the US dollar...and that's just not happening. So the copium stocks are still up, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I'm not really seeing anything about this Russian stock nosedive in the news anywhere, so grain of salt until then.

    I am, however, seeing lots of Russian propaganda about how their stock exchange suspended all US dollar and Euro trading "crippling" the US dollar...and that's just not happening. So the copium stocks are still up, at least.
    I mean... always be suspicious of a graph that doesn't include the axis labels.

    More importantly, you can see that the precipitous fall there is actually... -4.7% (down 11.8 to 239.39), as noted in the top left corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    No, both the US and the EU have been, up to now, playing relatively nice with Russia, freezing assets but not outright sanctioning them.

    But with this, and the EU transferring frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, looks like they're tired of Russia's shit now.
    Not? Do you mean russia the state?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    That impact's gonna leave a mark

    That's a collapse alright.
    My first thought was that you meant the bridge. Sadly it wasn't to be.

    Speaking of, though, there are reports that Russia has sent its only built s-500 unit to protect the bridge. And those things are expensive - $2.5 billion for the unit in 2023. It is still really a prototype so I guess they must be really worried to send it.

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