Imagine being so far left you support the most far right nazi government europe has seen since Hitler.
How about just watching what the US senator said instead of trying to derail the conversation using whataboutism?
On other news, the peace summit in Switzerland today is pretty much a bust.
92 countries are going (less than half), some of them are not sending their PMs (some are just sending ambassadors like India) and some that are there will not participate, just observe.
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/with...718383404.html
This should be a wake up call to everyone in here, and start thinking why more than half of the planet boycott led the event. Are they all "brainwashed Russian shils?"
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In case that you've missed it, I am against western exceptionalism and pro of a multipolar world. NATO needed to expand because the countries in it, need to buy western weapons (2% of their GDP) thus feeding the arms industries trillions of dollars in the expense of human lifes.
Corvus dude, you should go to the front lines and spend some NATO ammunitions dude.
Last edited by Ulmita; 2024-06-15 at 11:36 AM.
Putin is a murderous despot, an actual fascist, providing material and financial support to neo-fascists in the west to destabilise and divide democracies, while committing acts of terrorism and assassination in Europe.
That’s aside from an invasion of Ukraine in an attempt to originally take over the whole country, let’s not forget that failed military objective at the start either, or the continued attempts to assassinate Zelensky.
Russia is already a hostile and violent force to, and in Europe. It frankly has been for years before the invasion. You can’t just declare you’re neutral to that.
Yeah I should really trust everything Lindsay Graham says. Dude you must be trolling, because this can't be serious.
Even if Graham is a troll, at the end of the day it came out of the mouth of a very high ranked political official, from the party that sends the most support to one of the parties of the conflict. US citizens ought to be asking him some questions right about now. It looks bad, because it is bad.
From our point of view everyone is capable of what you describe so what do we choose in this case? The one that aligns better with our interests. In this case none does so we rather stay out of it. Why are the africans suddenly pro-Russian? are they brainwashed? no, they have been abused too much from westerners, for them the west is violent force you describe and Russia their liberators. So what is exclusively bad for you, might not be the same for someone else. Do you know the story of the worm, chicken and eagle? yes according to the worm the chicken is a dangerous animal while the eagle is not. You hate the Russians for what they are doing but lets say, do you hate the Turks for occupying Cyprus? (just one of the many examples) you don't, you don't even care, so why should we care about Ukraine and what you anglosaxons have to deal with for dominance?
If we could, we would replace humanity with a better noble one but we can't so we have to choose among many evil options.
Last edited by Vampiregenesis; 2024-06-15 at 11:52 AM.
I don't really care about your opinion of me, or anyone's else in here tbh. My view of what is happening in Ukraine is that two brotherly nations kill each other. Both nations are very close to us, and in both countries we have big Greek minorities. It's like us fighting with Cyprus, which is unimaginable to my mind.
This needs to stop ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.
I don't cover for Russia. As I said multiple times, they need to withdraw their troops from Ukraine. But NATO should also move the borders back to 1990 location (or even better disband completely as ot has served its purpose. There is no Soviet Union anymore).
The security of EU should be an EU issue. EU should create a joint military to defend its borders.
Last edited by Ulmita; 2024-06-15 at 11:56 AM.
I think that’s up to the nations who want to sign the charter. Countries who are also under some form of attacks already.
Russia’s war is with the west, it’s only militarily engaged in Ukraine and Georgia, for now, but there’s plenty else under other, asymmetric attack. Including the EU and UK.
Last edited by Jessicka; 2024-06-15 at 11:56 AM.