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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post



    I don't know who the guy is, I just took yhe first twitter search result. There are countless tweets about this.
    Maybe, just maybe today you learned that you shouldn't use Elon's soapbox as a news source. I just did a quick check and that "story" is almost exclusively shared by far right idiots.

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    Imagine being so far left you support the most far right nazi government europe has seen since Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMLXXXII View Post
    Maybe, just maybe today you learned that you shouldn't use Elon's soapbox as a news source. I just did a quick check and that "story" is almost exclusively shared by far right idiots.
    How about just watching what the US senator said instead of trying to derail the conversation using whataboutism?

    On other news, the peace summit in Switzerland today is pretty much a bust.

    92 countries are going (less than half), some of them are not sending their PMs (some are just sending ambassadors like India) and some that are there will not participate, just observe.

    https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/with...718383404.html

    This should be a wake up call to everyone in here, and start thinking why more than half of the planet boycott led the event. Are they all "brainwashed Russian shils?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Imagine being so far left you support the most far right nazi government europe has seen since Hitler.
    In case that you've missed it, I am against western exceptionalism and pro of a multipolar world. NATO needed to expand because the countries in it, need to buy western weapons (2% of their GDP) thus feeding the arms industries trillions of dollars in the expense of human lifes.
    Corvus dude, you should go to the front lines and spend some NATO ammunitions dude.
    Last edited by Ulmita; 2024-06-15 at 11:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    Nonsense
    Putin is a murderous despot, an actual fascist, providing material and financial support to neo-fascists in the west to destabilise and divide democracies, while committing acts of terrorism and assassination in Europe.

    That’s aside from an invasion of Ukraine in an attempt to originally take over the whole country, let’s not forget that failed military objective at the start either, or the continued attempts to assassinate Zelensky.

    Russia is already a hostile and violent force to, and in Europe. It frankly has been for years before the invasion. You can’t just declare you’re neutral to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Imagine being so far left you support the most far right nazi government europe has seen since Hitler.
    He doesn't support Putin, none of us do, we are talking about facts and bad things for both sides. You people need to stop to associate criticism to the west as support for Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    He doesn't support Putin, none of us do, we are talking about facts and bad things for both sides. You people need to stop to associate criticism to the west as support for Putin.
    Maybe stop supporting Putin and peoples opinion will change?

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    Yeah I should really trust everything Lindsay Graham says. Dude you must be trolling, because this can't be serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMLXXXII View Post
    Yeah I should really trust everything Lindsay Graham says. Dude you must be trolling, because this can't be serious.
    Even if Graham is a troll, at the end of the day it came out of the mouth of a very high ranked political official, from the party that sends the most support to one of the parties of the conflict. US citizens ought to be asking him some questions right about now. It looks bad, because it is bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Even if Graham is a troll, at the end of the day it came out of the mouth of a very high ranked political official, from the party that sends the most support to one of the parties of the conflict. US citizens ought to be asking him some questions right about now. It looks bad, because it is bad.
    When will u ask Putin how his 3 day war is going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Even if Graham is a troll, at the end of the day it came out of the mouth of a very high ranked political official, from the party that sends the most support to one of the parties of the conflict. US citizens ought to be asking him some questions right about now. It looks bad, because it is bad.
    Russia is already fighting you through subterfuge, espionage, financial crime, and cyber warfare. It has been for years, it’s high time you recognised that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Russia is already a hostile and violent force to, and in Europe. It frankly has been for years before the invasion. You can’t just declare you’re neutral to that.
    From our point of view everyone is capable of what you describe so what do we choose in this case? The one that aligns better with our interests. In this case none does so we rather stay out of it. Why are the africans suddenly pro-Russian? are they brainwashed? no, they have been abused too much from westerners, for them the west is violent force you describe and Russia their liberators. So what is exclusively bad for you, might not be the same for someone else. Do you know the story of the worm, chicken and eagle? yes according to the worm the chicken is a dangerous animal while the eagle is not. You hate the Russians for what they are doing but lets say, do you hate the Turks for occupying Cyprus? (just one of the many examples) you don't, you don't even care, so why should we care about Ukraine and what you anglosaxons have to deal with for dominance?

    If we could, we would replace humanity with a better noble one but we can't so we have to choose among many evil options.
    Last edited by Vampiregenesis; 2024-06-15 at 11:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange One View Post
    Maybe stop supporting Putin and peoples opinion will change?
    I don't really care about your opinion of me, or anyone's else in here tbh. My view of what is happening in Ukraine is that two brotherly nations kill each other. Both nations are very close to us, and in both countries we have big Greek minorities. It's like us fighting with Cyprus, which is unimaginable to my mind.

    This needs to stop ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    From our point of view everyone is capable of what you describe so what do we choose in this case? The one that aligns better with our interests. In this case none does so we rather stay out of it. Why are the africans suddenly pro-Russian? are they brainwashed? no, they have been abused too much from westerners. So what is exclusively bad for you, might not be the same for someone else. Do you know the story of the worm, chicken and eagle? yes according to the worm the chicken is a dangerous animal while the eagle is not. You hate the Russians for what they are doing but lets say, do you hate the Turks for occupying Cyprus? (just one of the many examples) you don't, you don't even care, so why should we care about Ukraine and what you anglosaxons are having to deal with?

    If we could, we would replace humanity but we can't so we have to choose among many evil options.
    Russian authorities don’t even like the wrong kind of white people, how do you think anyone else would get on under them?

    Again, they’re already fighting you. They don’t care about your calls for neutrality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I don't really care about your opinion of me, or anyone's else in here tbh. My view of what is happening in Ukraine is that two brotherly nations kill each other. Both nations are very close to us, and in both countries we have big Greek minorities. It's like us fighting with Cyprus, which is unimaginable to my mind.

    This needs to stop ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.
    You replied, you do care.

    You fully support the invasion. Russia could've done nothing and it would've been fine. It's out of hand because Russia invaded, something you've openly cheered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I don't really care about your opinion of me, or anyone's else in here tbh. My view of what is happening in Ukraine is that two brotherly nations kill each other. Both nations are very close to us, and in both countries we have big Greek minorities. It's like us fighting with Cyprus, which is unimaginable to my mind.

    This needs to stop ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.
    It can stop today, ruSSia can go home whenever they choose. No clue why you go on and on about how this war is anyones fault aside ruSSias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Russia is already fighting you through subterfuge, espionage, financial crime, and cyber warfare. It has been for years, it’s high time you recognised that.
    I don't cover for Russia. As I said multiple times, they need to withdraw their troops from Ukraine. But NATO should also move the borders back to 1990 location (or even better disband completely as ot has served its purpose. There is no Soviet Union anymore).

    The security of EU should be an EU issue. EU should create a joint military to defend its borders.
    Last edited by Ulmita; 2024-06-15 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I don't cover for Russia. As I said multiple times, they need to withdraw their troops from Ukraine. But NATO should also move the borders back to 1990 location.
    I think that’s up to the nations who want to sign the charter. Countries who are also under some form of attacks already.

    Russia’s war is with the west, it’s only militarily engaged in Ukraine and Georgia, for now, but there’s plenty else under other, asymmetric attack. Including the EU and UK.
    Last edited by Jessicka; 2024-06-15 at 11:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I don't cover for Russia. As I said multiple times, they need to withdraw their troops from Ukraine. But NATO should also move the borders back to 1990 location.
    Why does Russia get to decide what other countries do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Russia’s war is with the west, it’s only militarily engaged in Ukraine and Georgia, for now, but there’s plenty else under other, asymmetric attack. Including the EU and UK.
    Indeed they are attacking us. But didn't this happen after we took sides on the conflict? Do you find this surprising?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Indeed they are attacking us. But didn't this happen after we took sides on the conflict? Do you find this surprising?
    Russia was waging cyber war way before the war.

    Stop fucking lying.

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