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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Unfortunately in the world that we've created, the strong set the rules. It's the same reason that the US won't allow any adversary to have influence in the western hemisphere (Monroe doctrine). It's shitty i know, and we've built that.

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    Do you think that we didn't attack them also?
    When did Australia invade Russia? Really keen on this answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Honestly, this just makes me think that you do absolutely no research on the things you say/post/link, and gives me no reason to believe anything you say.
    I usually don't research the background of every poster in twitter, do you? Hahahahahahah
    I was looking for the video, pasted first result.

    Also, please don't try to derail too... just watch what the freqking senator said in public tv... that's the whole point of this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I usually don't research the background of every poster in twitter, do you? Hahahahahahah
    I was looking for the video, pasted first result.

    Also, please don't try to derail too... just watch what the freqking senator said in public tv... that's the whole point of this
    You don't research a thing. It's why you're so misinformed about everything. Thanks for admitting it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange One View Post
    When did Australia invade Russia? Really keen on this answer.
    Don't worry, in the next world war who might occur soon, you as a member of the AUKUS will be send first to die in Russian soil, in the name of King Charles so good British lives won't be hurt. Once a commonwealth, always a commonwealth. I advice you to reconsider your stance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Donald Trump is only meant to buy time and allow the west to prepare for an even greater war post 2028. The west will not simply accept giving east Ukraine to Putin, it's way too much. We have very dark times ahead and they won't end soon. You can see what they say, we are in the preparation phase now.
    It’s not ours to give.

    Not to mention, the initial invasion was intended to take *all* of Ukraine by taking Kyiv. There’s no reason to believe that objective changed.

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    Again, the freaking senator is Lindsay Graham...
    Being an US senator doesn't absolve someone from being an idiot. The man has shown that quite often on different topics, throughout the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    Don't worry, in the next world war who might occur soon, you as a member of the AUKUS will be send first to die in Russian soil, in the name of King Charles so good British lives won't be hurt. Once a commonwealth, always a commonwealth. I advice you to reconsider your stance.
    Putin cant win a war against a weakened state.

    The western world will crush you, and I expect you won't be on the front lines.

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    I'm absolutely not it's biggest supporter but NATO isn't in the wrong here. Anyone claiming otherwise is drinking that Russian Kool aid like it's polonium tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMLXXXII View Post
    I'm absolutely not it's biggest supporter but NATO isn't in the wrong here. Anyone claiming otherwise is drinking that Russian Kool aid like it's polonium tea.
    Look how violent they get when they get opposing opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange One View Post
    Putin cant win a war against a weakened state.

    The western world will crush you, and I expect you won't be on the front lines.
    First of all I don't wish for a world war, however do you think that a bunch of western countries will attack Russia and win? The tyrants of the east already show signs of collaboration, they understand very well that if let their fellow tyrant fall then they will be next to deal with the threat alone, they understood this after Assad and their intervention saved Assad from having the fate of Kaddafi or Sadam. So if a massive war occurs tomorrow, Russia will have massive support from the entire Asia or even Latin America or Africa. They actually already have that which allows them to keep running this war. It will be a massive war between west and east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    First of all I don't wish for a world war, however do you think that a bunch of western countries will attack Russia and win? The tyrants of the east already show signs of collaboration, they understand very well that if let their fellow tyrant fall then they will be next to deal with the threat alone, they understood this after Assad and their intervention saved Assad from having the fate of Kaddafi or Sadam. So if a massive war occurs tomorrow, Russia will have massive support from the entire Asia or even Latin America or Africa. They actually already have that which allows them to keep running this war. It will be a massive war between west and east.
    And you support Russia, who could've done nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I usually don't research the background of every poster in twitter, do you? Hahahahahahah
    I was looking for the video, pasted first result.

    Also, please don't try to derail too... just watch what the freqking senator said in public tv... that's the whole point of this
    When I'm using said poster on Twitter as a source of information? I absolutely do, yes. The fact you laugh at this says a lot, though. Check your sources!

    I watched it. Or rather I tried to. Its Lindsay Graham. He's about as credible as my little toe is an expert on the reproductive cycle of unicorns.

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    Africans aren't really siding with Russia, they just want this war to end because their breadbasket is being attacked. China is just waiting to exploit Russia

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    Are factcheckers non-existent in Greece?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCMLXXXII View Post
    Africans aren't really siding with Russia, they just want this war to end because their breadbasket is being attacked. China is just waiting to exploit Russia

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    Are factcheckers non-existent in Greece?
    Iran, China and North Korea are already secretly helping Russia, do you think these will stand aside and do nothing if Russia was about to attacked by NATO? I don't think waiting and exploiting would be an ideal option against such opponent.

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    Are there really still people out there that do not know what NATO actually is? Bewildering.

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    Man, so many pages derailed by fools responding to the trolls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slirith View Post
    Man, so many pages derailed by fools responding to the trolls.
    When the trolls roam free unpunished, it's more of a necessity to counter their propaganda and lies. If you let this thread fully be taken over by troll posts without "taking the bait", then it is as good as russian propaganda machine victory when one opinion (the pro-russian propaganda one) is the only one for gullible idiots to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I'm happy to see you are still around.
    Thank you. Keep up the good work


    Quote Originally Posted by Vampiregenesis View Post
    how is life over there? are you living in a occupied territory?
    According to international law, yes. De facto, Donetsk was a breakaway region for ~9 years, now it's (according to Russian laws) part of Russia. Everything is slowly gradually being converted to Russian standards.

    If we don't count the war front several km away (and no, Ukraine still doesn't shell Donetsk city), random blackouts and still insufficient water supply (water was coming via canal/pipes from territory still held by Ukraine), life here is meh. Typical depressive Russian periphery, I guess. No excitement or danger, people just survive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I think that NATO is the most important reason and waaay second comes the Russian speaking population. Either way, the local population had a bad time with the neo nazis of the Azov battalion. We have had multiple people from Marioupolis coming live in Greek TV saying that they fear for their lives because of them. Most of our parliament also recognizes them as Nazis, so i guess its a common knowledge here at Greece that there was a right wing problem in Ukraine.
    Cause and effect are opposite to what you say. Azov battalion was created on May 5 2014, when the war was already underway and the DPR had already been proclaimed. So, Azov battalion was created to fight the Russian invasion, not Russia invaded because Azov battalion existed (it didn't yet).

    I obviously can't comment on Greek TV content, but here's a question: those specific people, out of many thousands of Greeks in a 500k city, were they being singled out for assisting Russia? The invading enemy during an ongoing war? That's not right or left wing, that's just how war is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    I mean, we've had Ukrainan Greeks coming on live national TV saying that Azov is going around killing people and using citizens as human shields. This was all over the news. Is everyone lying to us?

    Greece should had sent army to evac them, but unfortunately we have idiots that govern us. Hopefully we get rid of this useless government soon.

    Use google translate: https://www.militaire.gr/ti-ginetai-...tagmatos-azof/
    The article you linked says it was Ukraine who somehow bombed the Mariupol theatre when the city was besieged (the one with word "children" clearly visible if anyone remembers that event). That's flat-earther level bollocks. Find something less insane as your argument, that author is not worth discussing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nobleshield View Post
    It's not 2004. People have lives, jobs, families etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Are there really still people out there that do not know what NATO actually is? Bewildering.
    Ultima and his kin know what NATO is, it's just that they have to lie about it to justify continuing Russian aggression

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    This needs to stop ASAP before it gets completely out of hand.
    Russia can just, I don't know, stop attacking Ukraine? Russia can pull out of Ukrainian territory (including Crimea) at anytime to end this conflict.
    Princesses can kill knights to rescue dragons.

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