Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Belize]

"We'll give our old stuff back to NK, that we just bought from NK because we have none, if you send new weapons to the Urkaine" is a weird flex.

Yeah, the messaging is incoherent at best, brutally confused at worst.

Like, even if Russia wasn't forced to buy from NK and was in a position to given them weapons, what, exactly, would SK be worried about...?

SK's weapon manufacturing outclasses both by so much it's not even funny.

[noidentity]

while south korea has the direct backing of the US to make these threats a relative non-issue, I don't like how people hype SK on its own merits as a military powerhouse that could take on russia or NK. historically, it's metaphorically been the ukraine of asia insofar as power is concerned.

And who argued that outside of the voices in your head?

[Yunru]

Kherson oblast seems to have a armed uprising right now and freedom fighters are stuck in some church in Mahhachkala acording to reports. And they also burned the muslim church or whatever is called.
Unknown if this caused the uprising in 1.st place.

[Iphie]

Kherson oblast seems to have a armed uprising right now and freedom fighters are stuck in some church in Makhachkala acording to reports. And they also burned the muslim church or whatever is called.
Unknown if this caused the uprising in 1.st place.

You mean in Dagestan?

[Corvus]

The attack in dagestan was against churches and synagogues so it's likely Isis related.

With the war sucking so many men and resources to the front, russia is experiencing a major shortage of police and their internal security is going to continue to suffer.

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while south korea has the direct backing of the US to make these threats a relative non-issue, I don't like how people hype SK on its own merits as a military powerhouse that could take on russia or NK. historically, it's metaphorically been the ukraine of asia insofar as power is concerned.

This is how you say you know nothing of South Korea. It is a major military power even without the US involved. 10th highest military expenditure in the world, and a number of those ahead of them are noted for major corruption (russia) or buying expensive toys but not knowing how to use them (Saudi Arabia.). 7th largest arms exporter in the world, and that is expected to go higher. A standing military of 500,000 with 3.1 million reserves, equipped and trained at a western standard.

They produced and oparate equipment as good as anywhere else. The K2 Black Panther is the equal of the Abrams and may be even better according to some, and is in mass production unlike russia's vaporware T14. The K9 SPG is the equal of any other out there and a number of nations have bought them, with Romania the most recent just a week ago. Their airforce operates a mix of F15s, F16s and F35s, plus they have their own designs.

NK is pitiful in comparison. While they may have more active bodies, they have nowhere near the reserves of SK. Their airforce is mostly MiG-17/19/21/23s or derivatives. Their air-defences are mostly S-200s or older models. Their tanks are mostly T62 or T55 variants.

They are even worse equipped than the Iraqis were while the South Koreans are better equipped than the American's were for the First Gulf War.

[Surfd]

while south korea has the direct backing of the US to make these threats a relative non-issue, I don't like how people hype SK on its own merits as a military powerhouse that could take on russia or NK. historically, it's metaphorically been the ukraine of asia insofar as power is concerned.

South Korea taking on North Korea would literally be like throwing a trained MMA fighter into the ring against a contestant from a random episode of Bum Fights. South Korea would shit all over them. Wouldn't even be a contest.

SK is miles upon miles ahead in terms of military power, hardware superiority and practically everything else. Pretty much their ONLY disadvantage is that they are incredibly unlikely to be the first to strike, meaning that NK maybe gets lucky with some collateral damage from the initial first strike, and then gets obliterated by the SK counterstrike.

I mean, I would be willing to bet that SK likely knows where 90% of NKs artillery batteries are at any given time, so if they did decide to strike first, NK would lose almost all of it's ability to retaliate before it even knew it was under attack.

[alach]

I don't think its as simple as all that. Yes SK has a very impressive military, but I think I read years back that NK has thousands of conventional artillery systems pointed at SK's urban centers and millions could die at the begining of a conflict.
Anyways, to the dude that was gloating Ukraine didn't get enough support from the peace summit a couple weeks back - turns out Zelensky wasn't finished.

Zelensky: 6 more participants joined peace summit communique this week

the muslim church or whatever is called

You mean a mosque?

[Ulmita]

Anyways, to the dude that was gloating Ukraine didn't get enough support from the peace summit a couple weeks back - turns out Zelensky wasn't finished.

Zelensky: 6 more participants joined peace summit communique this week

78/195 =40% of world's countries signed or
Less than 1/3 of world's population

It's still a bust. Even in the west there are tons of people who don't buy NATO's bs.

Looking at those numbers It's no wonder why sanctions don't work and it should make everyone wonder why such a low support.

[alach]

Only 100 countries were invited first of all; not all of them, and the reasons that the ones didn't sign were varied and had very little to do with "NATOs bs" Like the middle eastern countries are holding out right now because Isreal is being a dick.

Also, I think who did sign accounts for nearly 50% of the world's GDP.

[Ulmita]

Only 100 countries were invited first of all; not all of them, and the reasons that the ones didn't sign were varied and had very little to do with "NATOs bs" Like the middle eastern countries are holding out right now because Isreal is being a dick.

Also, I think who did sign accounts for nearly 50% of the world's GDP.

Ofc he wouldn't invite Syria, NK, Iran etc.

[Kaleredar]

78/195 =40% of world's countries signed or
Less than 1/3 of world's population

It's still a bust. Even in the west there are tons of people who don't buy NATO's bs.

Looking at those numbers It's no wonder why sanctions don't work and it should make everyone wonder why such a low support.

Most countries don't give a flying fuck about NATO or Russia, and see little reason to stick their own necks out and they lack the requisite resources, monetary or otherwise, to meaningfully contribute in one way or another. You seem to make the mistake of "see? They didn't say they support Ukraine! That means they LOVE Russia and want Putin to WIN!"

A moronic notion. But those are generally the kind you're stuck with, it seems. If you want a pretty apt comparison, look at how many countries declared war against the Nazis in WW2. Compared to the total number of countries in the world at the time, it was a pretty small number. Same deal here, except replace "Nazi Germany" with "Russia." A pretty apt comparison.


The countries that are going to make a difference in the conflict have sided with NATO. Many more sit it out. Meanwhile, Russia's list of "friends" include only the countries willing to use them as a cheap gas station (India,) tin-pot dictators (North Korea) and those salivating for Russia's backslide so they can swoop in to that sweet, sweet geopolitical power vacuum (China.)

Why don't we hear of Russia's great "friends" sending them cutting edge technology? They seem pretty content to sit on the sidelines. And the countries that are sending them are countries like... North Korea.

And if you're preening "Well the North Koreans are on our side!" as some sort of point of pride, then, well... I don't know what to tell you buddy. I suppose crimes against humanity recognize crimes against humanity.

[diller]

78/195 =40% of world's countries signed or
Less than 1/3 of world's population

It's still a bust. Even in the west there are tons of people who don't buy NATO's bs.

Looking at those numbers It's no wonder why sanctions don't work and it should make everyone wonder why such a low support.

Countries that matter and have money were there.

[Flarelaine]

This is how you say you know nothing of South Korea. It is a major military power even without the US involved. 10th highest military expenditure in the world, and a number of those ahead of them are noted for major corruption (russia) or buying expensive toys but not knowing how to use them (Saudi Arabia.). 7th largest arms exporter in the world, and that is expected to go higher. A standing military of 500,000 with 3.1 million reserves, equipped and trained at a western standard.

They produced and oparate equipment as good as anywhere else. The K2 Black Panther is the equal of the Abrams and may be even better according to some, and is in mass production unlike russia's vaporware T14. The K9 SPG is the equal of any other out there and a number of nations have bought them, with Romania the most recent just a week ago. Their airforce operates a mix of F15s, F16s and F35s, plus they have their own designs.

They also produce and build warhsips that stand up to US designs and are way cheaper, mostly because the US is banned from buying abroad and the entire US arms industry has grown fat and complacent.

[jeezusisacasual]

78/195 =40% of world's countries signed or
Less than 1/3 of world's population

It's still a bust. Even in the west there are tons of people who don't buy NATO's bs.

Looking at those numbers It's no wonder why sanctions don't work and it should make everyone wonder why such a low support.

Since this is the US's world and we are just lucky to live in it how much of that population controls the western influence sphere? How many of those nations are superpowers who dictate the western direction? If you think Russians or Asia deserve a say in anything involving the world you are delusional at best and a Pootie bootlicker at worst. I say this as an occupant of a sliding nation ( UK ) but understand that some dogs deserve to be put down since they have an ideology that is incompatible with the western way of life.

I am still waiting on why the special operation has taken so long when a specific bald russian said it would be over by now but hey what do i know.

[Elder Millennial]

78/195 =40% of world's countries signed or
Less than 1/3 of world's population

It's still a bust. Even in the west there are tons of people who don't buy NATO's bs.

Looking at those numbers It's no wonder why sanctions don't work and it should make everyone wonder why such a low support.

My brother in Christ. 40% of the world's countries signed....meanwhile Putin is flying to North Korea hat in hand begging for Soviet era hand-me-downs.

[Saradain]

40% of the countries in the world. 78 out of 100 invited. Just merely the deciding players of the western world politics. Total bust.

Meanwhile in North Korea...Ulmita can practise some major trolling in abusing russian maths. If North Korea helps Russia, that's 100% success!

When hatred of NATO blinds one so greatly...Not to mention the desire for multipolar world where the multiple poles include terrorist nations, human right violating communist dictatorships...

Some shitposters want to see the world burn.

[Kaleredar]

40% of the countries in the world. 78 out of 100 invited. Just merely the deciding players of the western world politics. Total bust.

Meanwhile in North Korea...Ulmita can practise some major trolling in abusing russian maths. If North Korea helps Russia, that's 100% success!

When hatred of NATO blinds one so greatly...Not to mention the desire for multipolar world where the multiple poles include terrorist nations, human right violating communist dictatorships...

Some shitposters want to see the world burn.

I think they’re just bad actors, plain and simple.


It’s a sports team to them. They don’t care if their QB runs a dogfighting ring, if their linebacker sexually assaulted someone, if the running back was cheating on his wife. If those people get them the results they want… they’re perfectly suitable! And how silly you are for thinking that things like that matter, when they’re winning!


Because they just want their team to win. Winning is seen the ultimate justification of everything they do. Anything else is just the empty whining of those they can dominate over.


Which is all the more reason, of course, that they must be made to lose.


And when they’re losing you see them go to the crocodile tears and sudden care about some semblance of “morality…” applied, of course, only to the opposition. “Your stadiums is not so nice, don’t you brag! why are you recruiting this player from another team for so much money? Why couldn’t your original lineup just work on its own merit? I hear your last coach got fired! Obviously, you only won because the ref was on your side…” and so on and so forth.

Luckily, we really seem to be in that latter stage, because Russia doesn’t have jack shit to brag about.

[Saradain]

Russia seems to be forbidding access to more western media outlets.

https://mid.ru/ru/press_service/spok...ement/1959391/

Финляндия

58. Газета «Ilta-Sanomat» (is.fi);

59. Газета «Iltalehti» (iltalehti.fi);

60. Газета «Helsingin Sanomat» (hs.fi);

61. Телерадиокомпания «Yleisradio» (yle.fi);

Hilariously, this coincides with a finnish newspaper-tabloid website Iltalehti.fi, which very recently revealed that a certain "finnish journalist" of the name "Kosti Heiskanen" from Twitter, spouting pro-russian talking points, ended up really being a russian propaganda-clown called "Konstantin Mihailovitš Lebedev", who merely moved to Germany in 2012 and changed his legal name to the above "Kosti Heiskanen".

https://theins.ru/en/antifake/272552

Less than surprisingly, when a russian propaganda-clown is in the question, you find gems like this from the above article...

He was also observed alongside neo-Nazis from the North Slavic Community and the Volunteer Special Training Center, colleagues of the Sabotage Assault Reconnaissance Group Rusich.

[Corvus]

ICC has issued arrest warrants for Shoigu and Gerasimov.

[Iphie]

Apparently there's new unrest in Dagestan again. I wonder how close russia is to being a powder keg ready to blow.

Edit: False alarm apparently.