Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Slant]

It's why I think these trolls account are mod alts since nothing permanent happens to them. Vacation time incoming~

To be fair, I probably wouldn't have this account any longer if mods didn't reset their memories. Looking at my 3 pages of infractions...

Edit: Correction, 11 pages... oops. On the other hand, prolly 10 pages are bullshit infractions.

[Flarelaine]

This modern Turing test is priceless. And very telling.

[PhaelixWW]

This modern Turing test is priceless. And very telling.

I love the new Johnny Drop Tables. Cracks me up, every damn time.

[Gabriel]

To be fair, I probably wouldn't have this account any longer if mods didn't reset their memories. Looking at my 3 pages of infractions...

Edit: Correction, 11 pages... oops. On the other hand, prolly 10 pages are bullshit infractions.

My sweet summer child...

[Corvus]

The price of meat continues its rapid rise - 10 days ago in Moscow in was 1.5 million. It's now 1.9. Simple economics say there is more demand than supply with such rapid rises.

There may even be some feedback going on here - the price is rising fast so those considering it are holding off for a little while until the price goes up. Which it does, given the need for fresh meat, but at such a rate that gets them to hold off a little longer for even more money.

In fact they are throwing so much money to try and recruit and pay for soldiers that it is chewing up 7.5-8% of the budget just on salaries and compensation, or around 1.5% of the entire countries GDP. That is before all that equipment, ammo supplies etc that they need.

It is little wonder inflation continues. There is another meeting of the central bank in a couple of days and the consensus is that they will raise interest rates again, most likely in the 1-2% range, though some are speculating it may be even higher to try and shock the system. But with the Kremlin sloshing so much money around its not likely to do much.

[Flarelaine]

The butcher's bill is often referenced in wars, though usually metaphorically.

[Iphie]

The price of meat continues its rapid rise - 10 days ago in Moscow in was 1.5 million. It's now 1.9. Simple economics say there is more demand than supply with such rapid rises.

There may even be some feedback going on here - the price is rising fast so those considering it are holding off for a little while until the price goes up. Which it does, given the need for fresh meat, but at such a rate that gets them to hold off a little longer for even more money.

In fact they are throwing so much money to try and recruit and pay for soldiers that it is chewing up 7.5-8% of the budget just on salaries and compensation, or around 1.5% of the entire countries GDP. That is before all that equipment, ammo supplies etc that they need.

It is little wonder inflation continues. There is another meeting of the central bank in a couple of days and the consensus is that they will raise interest rates again, most likely in the 1-2% range, though some are speculating it may be even higher to try and shock the system. But with the Kremlin sloshing so much money around its not likely to do much.

Food prices going up, power outages... putin best have an exit plan ready. I'm not facetious, these are all signs of problems for the government.

[Muzjhath]

Food prices going up, power outages... putin best have an exit plan ready. I'm not facetious, these are all signs of problems for the government.

The February Revolution wouldn't have happened without the breadlines

[Flarelaine]

In Hungary which is two countries down from Russia, this summer's extreme heat is projected to have practically burnt out crops. I wonder the climate change fucks with Russia's harvest as well. Meat is a luxury. Bread is not.

(one google search later)

There might be trouble.

Russian farmers fight to salvage harvest as major region cuts forecast

Under the sweltering sun and in temperatures of 50 degrees Celsius, farmers in the Rostov region, Russia's breadbasket, toil to salvage a harvest battered by heatwave, frosts and floods.
Accounting for 11% of Russia's total grain harvest last year, Rostov is one of the key regions that Russia's agriculture ministry has said it is monitoring to make further adjustments to an already soft 2024 crop forecast.

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[Poopymonster]

The price of meat continues its rapid rise - 10 days ago in Moscow in was 1.5 million. It's now 1.9. Simple economics say there is more demand than supply with such rapid rises.

There may even be some feedback going on here - the price is rising fast so those considering it are holding off for a little while until the price goes up. Which it does, given the need for fresh meat, but at such a rate that gets them to hold off a little longer for even more money.

In fact they are throwing so much money to try and recruit and pay for soldiers that it is chewing up 7.5-8% of the budget just on salaries and compensation, or around 1.5% of the entire countries GDP. That is before all that equipment, ammo supplies etc that they need.

It is little wonder inflation continues. There is another meeting of the central bank in a couple of days and the consensus is that they will raise interest rates again, most likely in the 1-2% range, though some are speculating it may be even higher to try and shock the system. But with the Kremlin sloshing so much money around its not likely to do much.

Good news! That "Salary" is only paid a few times per person!

[Elder Millennial]

https://essanews.com/russian-compani...7536697477249a

Earlier this month reports came out that basically every Russian meat producer has been adulterating their products with meat glue to increase volume and reduce production times.

It even showed up in baby food.

We are not at breadlines yet, but definitely there are widening cracks showing. But we don't have a systemic breakdown....yet.

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In Hungary which is two countries down from Russia, this summer's extreme heat is projected to have practically burnt out crops. I wonder the climate change fucks with Russia's harvest as well. Meat is a luxury. Bread is not.

(one google search later)

There might be trouble.

Russian farmers fight to salvage harvest as major region cuts forecast

Sadly, Russia still produces enough (yay for post Soviet era access to Western agricultural industrialization techniques) to be largely self sufficient. Grains for Russia are a cash crop, big chunk of it going towards exports.

It will take quite a few consecutive crop failures for the cash shortages to break down the Russian agricultural equipment stock sufficiently for food shortages to hit Russian consumers.

The Russians spent a whole lot of money in the past decades trying to convince farmers to move into Siberia, banking on climate change making those areas viable for agriculture.

Not sure what has come of that project now.

[Flarelaine]

Sadly, Russia still produces enough (yay for post Soviet era access to Western agricultural industrialization techniques) to be largely self sufficient. Grains for Russia are a cash crop, big chunk of it going towards exports.

It will take quite a few consecutive crop failures for the cash shortages to break down the Russian agricultural equipment stock sufficiently for food shortages to hit Russian consumers.

Prices still tend to go up after failed harvests. Especially in an economy that is already shaky and used to be propped up by cash crops which are suddenly in short supply. I don't think they will starve but it might stretch family budgets thinner still.

[YUPPIE]

Ukrainian Security Service uncovers Russian FSB spy network planning arson attacks in EU

The criminal group consisted of 19 members residing in Ivano-Frankivsk, Dnipropetrovsk, Poltava, and Zaporizhzhya oblasts.

The operatives recruited candidates to commit arson attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine and abroad.

Their primary targets included shopping centers, gas stations, pharmacies, and markets. They used personal connections within criminal circles to find future perpetrators.

At some point you have to ask what a declaration of war is.

[fwc577]

Ukrainian Security Service uncovers Russian FSB spy network planning arson attacks in EU

The criminal group consisted of 19 members residing in Ivano-Frankivsk, Dnipropetrovsk, Poltava, and Zaporizhzhya oblasts.

The operatives recruited candidates to commit arson attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine and abroad.

Their primary targets included shopping centers, gas stations, pharmacies, and markets. They used personal connections within criminal circles to find future perpetrators.

At some point you have to ask what a declaration of war is.

Solution is simple in cases like this. Execution.

Staple a warning threatening a declaration to their bodies and ship them back to Putin.

[Jessicka]

Ukrainian Security Service uncovers Russian FSB spy network planning arson attacks in EU

The criminal group consisted of 19 members residing in Ivano-Frankivsk, Dnipropetrovsk, Poltava, and Zaporizhzhya oblasts.

The operatives recruited candidates to commit arson attacks on civilian targets in Ukraine and abroad.

Their primary targets included shopping centers, gas stations, pharmacies, and markets. They used personal connections within criminal circles to find future perpetrators.

At some point you have to ask what a declaration of war is.

There have already been a number of incidents across Europe linked to the FSB discussed in this thread. Russia has been fighting us on multiple fronts for years, and people still want to pretend they’re not.

[Gorsameth]

There have already been a number of incidents across Europe linked to the FSB discussed in this thread. Russia has been fighting us on multiple fronts for years, and people still want to pretend they’re not.

The problem is that, for obvious reasons, we don't want to go to open war with Russia.
Which is all the more reason why we should throw everything behind Ukraine and have them do it for us...

[Jessicka]

The problem is that, for obvious reasons, we don't want to go to open war with Russia.
Which is all the more reason why we should throw everything behind Ukraine and have them do it for us...

Quite, and yet people are still opposed to that much.

[YUPPIE]

Which is all the more reason why we should throw everything behind Ukraine and have them do it for us...

just going to war isn't the only line. People are simply afraid of incurring Putin's wrath through other things as well. I'm sure if we threw everything behind Ukraine, that'd make him as mad as actually declaring war

[Calfredd]

just going to war isn't the only line. People are simply afraid of incurring Putin's wrath through other things as well. I'm sure if we threw everything behind Ukraine, that'd make him as mad as actually declaring war

And make the idiots out there think that Putin would push the big red button.

[Gabriel]

The problem is that, for obvious reasons, we don't want to go to open war with Russia.
Which is all the more reason why we should throw everything behind Ukraine and have them do it for us...

Then don't. Start killing Russian operatives covertly and deny everything publicly. Russia will get the hint eventually.