Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Vampiregenesis]

I think you can rest easy. There is no such thing as an unimportant NATO member. It’s a defensive alliance. Putin bombs Greece and it’s WW3.

Like the rocket that fell in Poland and killed people and then they made up a story that it is an Ukrainian one to avoid escalation or like the drones that fall in Romania?

NATO will never go to a war for some small insignificant members unless perhaps they face an all out war. We are talking about sabotage here, Russia is conducting sabotage operation all over Europe.

Also never say never, just because you think a NATO vs Russia is not possible, it doesn't mean that it's the way you think. we never thought that Putin will invade Ukraine either.

[Joszef Kiprich]

If Ulmita and YUPPIE had a baby....

[PhaelixWW]

we never thought that Putin will invade Ukraine either.

Uh... sure we did.

[Vampiregenesis]

Kinda off-topic, but I just got back from Greece, and saw a pair of F-16s flying about for 15 minutes or so, training most likely.
Also hows Greece close? There's like 3 Nato countries between you. 4 if you count Turkiye.

Honestly if I were Greek I'd be more worried about the middle east about to explode than putin.

Where are you from?

We are obviously worried about the middle east since this is also very close to us, although we are more worried about Cypriots regarding this.

Russia is very close to Greece, Crimea, South Russia and Greece are almost connected through the black sea, there are no NATO countries in-between except Turkey and Eastern Thrace specifically.

Crimea was colonized in ancient times by ancient greeks. They called it "Tauriki"

Russia is closer to Greece than Israel.

[Joszef Kiprich]

I like the NATO member called eastern Thrace

[Endus]

NATO will never go to a war for some small insignificant members unless perhaps they face an all out war. We are talking about sabotage here, Russia is conducting sabotage operation all over Europe.

That's just not how NATO works. NATO is a mutual defense pact; if anyone attacks a NATO member, all of NATO steps in on their behalf. There's no such thing as an "insignificant member" in this.

Also never say never, just because you think a NATO vs Russia is not possible, it doesn't mean that it's the way you think. we never thought that Putin will invade Ukraine either.

Since 2014? Because we've known he was willing to do so since 2014. And he was belligerent well before that, despite the treaty signed with Ukraine.

And lest anyone say I'm being condescending to someone much closer to Russia than I am, my country borders Russia.

[PhaelixWW]

Russia is very close to Greece, Crimea, South Russia and Greece are almost connected through the black sea, there are no NATO countries in-between except Turkey and Eastern Thrace specifically.

Dude.

If you want to get melodramatic about it, Russia and USA are closer than Russia and Greece.

Get over it already.

[Vampiregenesis]

Dude.

If you want to get melodramatic about it, Russia and USA are closer than Russia and Greece.

Get over it already.

Because Siberia and Western Russia are equally important correct?

[PhaelixWW]

Crimea was colonized in ancient times by ancient greeks. They called it "Tauriki"

Fantastic. Alexander the Great's empire spread out to India. Doesn't make India close to Greece, either.

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Because Siberia and Western Russia are equally important correct?

As equally important as Crimea, which is occupied territory that belongs to Ukraine, and a small airport in Greece, separated by the Black Sea and Turkey.

[Vampiregenesis]

Fantastic. Alexander the Great's empire spread out to India. Doesn't make India close to Greece, either.

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As equally important as Crimea, which is occupied territory that belongs to Ukraine, and a small airport in Greece, separated by the Black Sea and Turkey.

Well, as you can see Russia is overreacting at you trying to place Rockets with nuclear capabilities in Germany. What do you think would happen if you tried to place these rockets on northeast Greece? We will never be allowed to have nukes because of this. Since the USA is so close to Russia, why do you need to place the rockets there?

In the past Russia reacted to the NATO base that we try to build in Alexandroupoli city. (northeast Greece).

[Joszef Kiprich]

Someone really needs a lesson in geography.

[PhaelixWW]

Well, as you can see Russia is overreacting at you trying to place Rockets with nuclear capabilities in Germany. What do you think would happen if you tried to place these rockets on northeast Greece? We will never be allowed to have nukes because of this. Since the USA is so close to Russia, why do you need to place the rockets there?

Do you not realize that there are US nukes in Turkey already?

In the past Russia reacted to the NATO base that we try to build in Alexandroupoli city. (northeast Greece).

Reacted... by dropping bombs? Or complaining?

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Do you not realize that there are US nukes in Turkey already?

Heck, the US had nukes stationed in Greece from 1963 to 2001. They've been in Germany since the '50s.

[Belize]

The Russian agitprop sure has gotten low quality since the war began.

GrEeCe Is ClOsE tO rUsSiA is so pathetic it hurts

[Joszef Kiprich]

The Greece propaganda station apparently is very low budget.

[Vampiregenesis]

Do you not realize that there are US nukes in Turkey already?



Reacted... by dropping bombs? Or complaining?

There are US nukes everywhere but I don't know the specifics of them, of course they can't be used by the countries that have them and the countries lack the capabilities to cause harm to Russia with them. Russia will never allow a neighbor to have such capabilities. They complained about the base and it is seen by them as an attempt to hurt them,
why? because it's close to them....

It's hilarious to say that you are closer to Russia because of Alaska, you will have to cross the entire planet until you reach the important part of Russia which all is on Europe. Thats why you are placing your rocket in Europe. It's also the reason you create such situations in Europe, because you are far away from trouble.

Russia is gigantic but the south part is very close to our country, not that far away from Turkey, if Russia is next to Turkey then I guess it makes sense that it's very close to us as well correct?

Google maps is there, you can check it.

Middle east is further away than Russia by sea.

I don't care anyway what you think, I only hope this doesn't escalate into something worse.

[Joszef Kiprich]

I'm just concerned...

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This treacherous decision will now turn that airport into an important NATO facility and my area could become a potential target and it's also a small area so no problem to drop a nuke on it, it's far from the capital. The airport wasn't that important before.

PUTIN PLEASE DONT BOMB US, WE DONT WANT THEM HERE

Greece is a NATO member. A strike on Greece is a strike on NATO, triggering Article 5.

Do you really think Russia, still bogged down in Ukraine two and a half years later, can also fight against NATO forces simultaneously?

Sounds like you should just move to Russia if you're so scared of Russia. Though I must warn you, living in Russia is very much no protection against Russia, either.

[Gabriel]

No-one cares if you're closer to Russia. If Russia really wants to escalate into a real war with NATO, there are at least 100 bigger targets then a insignificant airport in Greece. I think that I, living next to the largest port in Europe would be in more danger.

Depends on whether you live close by to any children's hospitals or daycare centers.

[Vampiregenesis]

Greece is a NATO member. A strike on Greece is a strike on NATO, triggering Article 5.

Do you really think Russia, still bogged down in Ukraine two and a half years later, can also fight against NATO forces simultaneously?

Sounds like you should just move to Russia if you're so scared of Russia. Though I must warn you, living in Russia is very much no protection against Russia, either.

NATO are five countries, US, Canada, UK, France, Germany - the Saxon alliance, everyone else is pretty much a fodder meat for them and racially inferior. Now, if these inferior insignificant countries are trying hard to prove how good dogs they are, that's a dream situation for the saxon because they can sacrifice the fodder. It's the reason they are forcing us to send F-16 to Ukraine and antiair systems even though we are much smaller than them.

Putin can send some planes and bomb us and nothing will happen, they will a find a way to deescalate or blame it into something else, Putin is exploiting this, that's why he is doing war in the first place because he knows very well that none is going to react seriously to it unless a prime saxon target is hit. Putin of course still has no reason to attack our country.

I can't believe there are people who still consider article 5 legit.

[PhaelixWW]

There are US nukes everywhere but I don't know the specifics of them, of course they can't be used by the countries that have them and the countries lack the capabilities to cause harm to Russia with them. Russia will never allow a neighbor to have such capabilities.

Russia doesn't have the authority, real or perceived, to prevent it. They never did. The nuclear sharing program has been in place since shortly after the inception of NATO.

They complained about the base and it is seen by them as an attempt to hurt them

Yes, Russia is adept at complaints. But they only strong-arm those significantly weaker than they are.

And they're not having the kind of success in Ukraine that they expected, which is absolutely showcasing how weak they really are.

It's hilarious to say that you are closer to Russia because of Alaska, you will have to cross the entire planet until you reach the important part of Russia which all is on Europe.

It's hilarious that you think that a small airport training F-16s in Greece is some meaningful threat to Russia when there are several NATO countries and even some NATO nuclear weapons closer than said airport.

Russia is gigantic but the south part is very close to our country, not that far away from Turkey, if Russia is next to Turkey then I guess it makes sense that it's very close to us as well correct?

Not closer than Finland, Norway, Sweden, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey.

I don't care anyway what you think, I only hope this doesn't escalate into something worse.

Yes, you're very "concerned". We get it.