Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kaleredar]

You are doing remote job work just like me because the wages here are terrible and none can survive with them. Luckily digital nomadism has saved me from the worst fate that others endure. This is why I can live alone, I wouldn't be able to do this otherwise.



This is propaganda of the EU in order to support the central right party here. You see this party rules Europe now and they do their best to support their allies no matter how bad they perform.

Back on 1940 we had a free, proud and independent country with relative good living conditions and a very strong leader, the people were proud to be part of it and fight for it. The Germans decimated everything and stole our wealth, they do the same these days through other means but we no longer have the spirit that we did have back then.

If Putin invaded Greece now, trust me, none would even try to resist, I don't think the people care anymore for this ruined place. This is why it's somewhat weird for most of us, wtf are doing with Ukraine, why do we even care. We have so many problems of our own.

“Greece has so many problems, Putin might as well destroy it” is certainly a take.


But of course this isn’t about Greece, this is about Ukraine, and clearly they aren’t so bleak about their country’s future that they just decided to lay down and die.

[Sunseeker]

But of course this isn’t about Greece, this is about Ukraine, and clearly they aren’t so bleak about their country’s future that they just decided to lay down and die.

Thats only because theyre an American pawn! Not like those free-minded Greeks who know that when Russia rolls up, all you can do is lay down and die!
-that poster whose name I cant spell, probably.

[Vampiregenesis]

“Greece has so many problems, Putin might as well destroy it” is certainly a take.


But of course this isn’t about Greece, this is about Ukraine, and clearly they aren’t so bleak about their country’s future that they just decided to lay down and die.

What? Ukrainians have fled en masse to avoid conscripting, we have many here. There are videos about even nationalist Ukrainians who try to resist conscripting. This is one of the major problems of the Ukrainian army. They don't want to fight a pointless war that will kill them 100% against a brother nation. Russia to Ukraine is what Cyprus to Greece, most would never dare to fight them.

The situation in Ukraine is faaaaar worse than Greece, Greece is an enslaved country but still somewhat functional and relatively stable even if its a hated stability for its citizens. Ukraine is what Greece was in 1940, a decimated country with no hope in sight. In 3 months Trump will come and all aid will be cut, a big portion of their land will be given in Russia and they will be left with tons of debt to creditors with still no NATO or EU membership and with lots of their men dead. It will be terrifying.

[Saradain]

Damn, this is gonna be one hell of a flood of shitposts when even the Ulmita Who Cried Defamation is back from vacation...

[Belize]

Greece is an enslaved country

Least hyperbolic poster around

[Calfredd]

Greece is an enslaved country

And the Earth is flat!

[Sunseeker]

And the Earth is flat!

Shhh! The last thing we need to do is summon them to this thread.

[Endus]

T Greece is an enslaved country

When you say raving mad shit like this, no one is going to take anything you say seriously. FYI.

[Calfredd]

Shhh! The last thing we need to do is summon them to this thread.

Pretty sure Hammerfest was perma'd way back.

[Sunseeker]

Pretty sure Hammerfest was perma'd way back.

Evidence that once, in ancient times, moderation actually did their jobs here.

[Vampiregenesis]

When you say raving mad shit like this, no one is going to take anything you say seriously. FYI.

We are enslaved the same way that baltics, Poland, Ukraine were enslaved to Russia during the Soviet Union and had everything wiped out from them. When you are part of Union, the strongest one in them takes everything. The European Union is not the same as the United States, it's a competitive Union where everyone has to stand in it for himself. This Union is dominated by France and Germany, we can't possibly compete with them, we can't stand our ground with such countries, we have to leave and take protective measures and adjust our markets based on regional needs, otherwise this country will remain unhabitable.

Just because European Union is capitalist, it does not make it free.

[Makabreska]

Did this guy really just equalise Soviet oppression, where millions were imprisoned, tortured and killed simple because they opposed the gov to being a member of EU?

I saw many nut cases on MMO-C, but this one may be the one.

[Vampiregenesis]

Did this guy really just equalise Soviet oppression, where millions were imprisoned, tortured and killed simple because they opposed the gov to being a member of EU?

I saw many nut cases on MMO-C, but this one may be the one.

No in EU, they don't imprison us, neither torture us or kill us, why would they? they don't need to, we suicide instead, we have realized that it's impossible to remove their system. We realized this very well during the referendum in 2015.

Get out from your bubble, Greece is not even the worst case, go and live in a poor country in the EU, see the despair of the rent of a 1 room house being higher than your monthly wage. Do it for a year or so and tell me how you will feel. You will then realize what the Ukrainian is fighting for.

[Makabreska]

No in EU, they don't imprison us, neither torture us or kill us, why would they? they don't need to, we suicide instead, we have realized that it's impossible to remove their system. We realized this very well during the referendum in 2015.

You are looking to be a disturbed individual who seems to live an unhappy life, but instead of looking inwards for a things that can be improved, created some grand, imaginary enemies for an easy blame shift for whatever bothers you.

[Orange Joe]

Evidence that once, in ancient times, moderation actually did their jobs here.

yeah no...... I remember jaylock. moderation was always a joke here

[Belize]

No in EU, they don't imprison us, neither torture us or kill us, why would they? they don't need to, we suicide instead, we have realized that it's impossible to remove their system. We realized this very well during the referendum in 2015.

Get out from your bubble, Greece is not even the worst case, go and live in a poor country in the EU, see the despair of the rent of a 1 room house being higher than your monthly wage. Do it for a year or so and tell me how you will feel. You will then realize what the Ukrainian is fighting for.

My brother in christ, lay off the Ouzo.

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yeah no...... I remember jaylock. moderation was always a joke here

Omega off topic, but I do occasionally wonder what happened to some of the more... interesting... characters that used to hang around here.

Like, statistically speaking a couple must have been arrested after Jan6 right?

[Endus]

We are enslaved the same way that baltics, Poland, Ukraine were enslaved to Russia during the Soviet Union and had everything wiped out from them. When you are part of Union, the strongest one in them takes everything. The European Union is not the same as the United States, it's a competitive Union where everyone has to stand in it for himself. This Union is dominated by France and Germany, we can't possibly compete with them, we can't stand our ground with such countries, we have to leave and take protective measures and adjust our markets based on regional needs, otherwise this country will remain unhabitable.

Just because European Union is capitalist, it does not make it free.

Again, this is nonsense. Why should I entertain any of it? You can leave the EU if you want; the UK did. And they suffered economically by doing so. Because of the loss of the benefits of being an EU member. You're deflecting all responsibility for Greece's economic woes onto the EU and taking none of them for yourselves, when Greece was not doing any better by itself. Pure baseless propaganda is all you're offering.

If it were really that bad, Greece would just leave. Which you could do any time. As the UK's already demonstrated.

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No in EU, they don't imprison us, neither torture us or kill us, why would they? they don't need to, we suicide instead, we have realized that it's impossible to remove their system. We realized this very well during the referendum in 2015.

Get out from your bubble, Greece is not even the worst case, go and live in a poor country in the EU, see the despair of the rent of a 1 room house being higher than your monthly wage. Do it for a year or so and tell me how you will feel. You will then realize what the Ukrainian is fighting for.

Just to grab some figures;

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Athens

That's for Athens, which I assume is on the more expensive side. So about 1300 Euros a month per person, and a city-center apartment averages almost 600 Euros.

Now wages. Minimum wage in Greece is 968 Euros a month. https://countryeconomy.com/national-...r%2C%206.41%25.

That's below that cost of living, sure, for a person living alone. But that's also minimum wage. And the average rent in Athens is hundreds of Euro below that, not more than it.

The numbers honestly aren't that far off where I'm living in Canada. Rent's arguably higher here, proportionally; we're in a bit of a housing crisis and tipping into a crash. I'm not seeing the argument, dude. The numbers don't hold up.

[Vampiregenesis]

Again, this is nonsense. Why should I entertain any of it? You can leave the EU if you want; the UK did. And they suffered economically by doing so. Because of the loss of the benefits of being an EU member. You're deflecting all responsibility for Greece's economic woes onto the EU and taking none of them for yourselves, when Greece was not doing any better by itself. Pure baseless propaganda is all you're offering.

If it were really that bad, Greece would just leave. Which you could do any time. As the UK's already demonstrated.

The UK suffered because it's a strong player, so it certainly benefited from EU but then again I don't see them trying to rejoin it, maybe they prefer it that way?

If UK decided to leave the EU, Greece which is far weaker economy wise should definitely leave, the reason we don't leave it is corruption and fear of the unknown. I believe that one day we will leave it when things are so bad that this will be our only choice.

[Endus]

The UK suffered because it's a strong player, so it certainly benefited from EU but then again I don't see them trying to rejoin it, maybe they prefer it that way?

If UK decided to leave the UK, Greece which is far weaker economy wise should definitely leave, the reason we don't leave it is corruption and fear of the unknown. I believe that one day we will leave it when things are so bad that this will be our only choice.

So you're choosing to stay because leaving would be economically bad.

So much for the bullshit claims of being "enslaved".

[Vampiregenesis]

Again, this is nonsense. Why should I entertain any of it? You can leave the EU if you want; the UK did. And they suffered economically by doing so. Because of the loss of the benefits of being an EU member. You're deflecting all responsibility for Greece's economic woes onto the EU and taking none of them for yourselves, when Greece was not doing any better by itself. Pure baseless propaganda is all you're offering.

If it were really that bad, Greece would just leave. Which you could do any time. As the UK's already demonstrated.

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Just to grab some figures;

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/in/Athens

That's for Athens, which I assume is on the more expensive side. So about 1300 Euros a month per person, and a city-center apartment averages almost 600 Euros.

Now wages. Minimum wage in Greece is 968 Euros a month. https://countryeconomy.com/national-...r%2C%206.41%25.

That's below that cost of living, sure, for a person living alone. But that's also minimum wage. And the average rent in Athens is hundreds of Euro below that, not more than it.

The numbers honestly aren't that far off where I'm living in Canada. Rent's arguably higher here, proportionally; we're in a bit of a housing crisis and tipping into a crash. I'm not seeing the argument, dude. The numbers don't hold up.

968 Euro minimum wage?

The minimum wage in Greece is 830 euro and a big portion of it goes for insurance and taxation so it's much less.

There is a big black market here as well, the wages there can be even worse and many resort to it due to inability to find work.

Most are unable to live alone and are instead living into their mother's basement even up to 40 years old or more.