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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    That's literally what literally all of us have literally been saying literally the entire time.
    Give Yuppie a minute, he's still catching up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Give Yuppie a minute, he's still catching up
    Strange for a "prophet" to be behind everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by En Sabah Nur View Post
    Strange for a "prophet" to be behind everyone else.
    Can't be wrong when you make predictions about stuff that has already happened *taps head*

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    Heh....so ukraine soldiers are now shitposting resturant reviews in kursk.
    Don't sweat the details!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Putin isn't really a warlord, like kadyrov, either way we don't want even the chance of loose booms and components, that's something we can agree upon I think.
    He's best thought of as the emperor - figurehead, patriarch, chief arbiter, commander, and policy-maker - of a fractious confederacy of kleptocrats. He stays in power so long as he delivers wealth and security (to the kleptocrats). They were willing to respect his decision to invade Ukraine, as they respected his analysis and decision-making that the existence of Ukraine as a democratic state was an existential threat to their kleptocracy. (To be fair, they were likely correct.) He will remain in power as long as his fellow kleptocrats remain confident that the effort involved in replacing him would exceed the costs (to them) of keeping him. Once they start thinking that replacing him is better for them than keeping him, he's likely going to be dead in short order. (In theory he could retire, but in practice that's very hard to do with someone like Putin.) He's done a lot to make sure there are no easy ways to replace him (such as making sure nothing and no one like the United States Vice-President exists in Russia), but that only goes so far if he loses the kleptocrats.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    He's best thought of as the emperor - figurehead, patriarch, chief arbiter, commander, and policy-maker - of a fractious confederacy of kleptocrats. He stays in power so long as he delivers wealth and security (to the kleptocrats). They were willing to respect his decision to invade Ukraine, as they respected his analysis and decision-making that the existence of Ukraine as a democratic state was an existential threat to their kleptocracy. (To be fair, they were likely correct.) He will remain in power as long as his fellow kleptocrats remain confident that the effort involved in replacing him would exceed the costs (to them) of keeping him. Once they start thinking that replacing him is better for them than keeping him, he's likely going to be dead in short order. (In theory he could retire, but in practice that's very hard to do with someone like Putin.) He's done a lot to make sure there are no easy ways to replace him (such as making sure nothing and no one like the United States Vice-President exists in Russia), but that only goes so far if he loses the kleptocrats.
    I mean I've been ssaying for a while that if he starts to be an issue for his inner circle he's gone and he's working hard to start being one. An interesting detail in that respect is that his table is getting shorter. (If you recall he had these ridiculously long tables previously, now he sits at a normal ´sized table)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    You do realize that topics can change, right?
    It hadn't changed. You attempted to change it. I brought it back to the original context.

    You don't really get to justifiably say "where did that come from" at that point. All post quotes were linked, the posts were from the last few hours, and all were on the same page of comments. If you're too lazy to check a comment chain that stretched only 9 posts before yours, especially after being called on it, then that's entirely on you.


    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    The mention that Russia is now "more surrounded" than before (and the fact that the word surrounded is typically used by Russia), has absolutely nothing to do with Kaliningrad.
    Lulz. Of course it does. The other poster's use of the word "surrounded" was in direct response to my use of the word "surrounded" in the previous post in relation to Kaliningrad.

    I mean, it's the height of your laziness, considering the fact that all of this was present in the exact post you replied to. You failed to read the quote in that post to which the other poster was responding to.


    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    What's your point man... Jesus.
    Own up to your mistakes if you want to be taken seriously.


    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    You were completely out of the conversation that I wanted to start and I didn't want to adress your point about Kaliningrad at all.
    I would've quoted you instead if I wanted to talk to you or say something about your part of the previous conversation.
    When you respond to someone who quotes me, I'm not "completely out of the conversation", sorry.


    But this whole thing has become an unnecessary tangent, now, so I'll stop engaging in your derailment after this post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Can't be wrong when you make predictions about stuff that has already happened *taps head*
    They call that “Captain Hindsight”



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    The Kremlin must be feeling some heat about all those ethnic russian conscripts captured. The Ukrainian ombudsman said his russian counterpart initiated a request for a prisoner exchange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Kremlin must be feeling some heat about all those ethnic russian conscripts captured. The Ukrainian ombudsman said his russian counterpart initiated a request for a prisoner exchange.
    Well, they're the children of those who couldn't afford to get them exempt but still posted to a "cushy" spot out of harm's way...that kinda failed and now there's ~2000 conscripts who shouldn't be anywhere near the fight imprisoned. That's 2000 families who are a bit cross with pudding now.

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    Sky News are reporting that British Challenger tanks are being used by Ukraine for the Russian incursion. It would be the first time our tanks have been used in combat on Russian territory. Now if we'd just give them permission to use our Storm Shadow missiles outside of their borders that'd be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    It hadn't changed. You attempted to change it. I brought it back to the original context.
    just no, lmao. Imagine thinking I'm not allowed to talk to someone if you are not involved. It's okay if you thought I was referencing you or something, but the context was pretty clear that I wasn't.
    I didn't talk to you, your post was at no point even remotely relevant in regards to what I wanted to talk about.
    Exactly, own up your mistakes if you want to be taken seriously...
    Jesus christ.

    You escalated this "issue" to an unbelievable scale. You sure are not healthy for a discussion - and now you want out and blame me for a derailment? Seriously?
    Take a look at the mirror.
    As if your constant bickering with this Yuppie nutcase wasn't enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Sky News are reporting that British Challenger tanks are being used by Ukraine for the Russian incursion. It would be the first time our tanks have been used in combat on Russian territory. Now if we'd just give them permission to use our Storm Shadow missiles outside of their borders that'd be great.
    The Storm Shadow has 3rd party tech in it who are refusing to allow it to be used against targets in russia. Only one guess needed as to who - and it's not France.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Storm Shadow has 3rd party tech in it who are refusing to allow it to be used against targets in russia. Only one guess needed as to who - and it's not France.
    Which country is it? I mean I can guess but I'd like to know. Google is not helping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Sky News are reporting that British Challenger tanks are being used by Ukraine for the Russian incursion. It would be the first time our tanks have been used in combat on Russian territory. Now if we'd just give them permission to use our Storm Shadow missiles outside of their borders that'd be great.
    Starmer already approved.

    https://news.sky.com/story/keir-star...ussia-13176370

    In an unusual signal of political continuity concerning weapons supply to Ukraine, he (Defence Secretary Healey) said: "The Sunak pledge comes with the Starmer guarantee of delivery."
    Funny thing: Labour's victory rested upon rejecting most everything the Tories did, but supporting Ukraine was possibly the most popular Tory policy lately and Labour is doubling down on it.
    Last edited by Flarelaine; 2024-08-15 at 11:02 AM. Reason: added quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The Storm Shadow has 3rd party tech in it who are refusing to allow it to be used against targets in russia. Only one guess needed as to who - and it's not France.
    The concern is that they'll be used to strike deep into Russia, mostly aiming at Moscow.

    They're currently hashing out an agreement for them to be utilised against specific logistics and movement checkpoints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Goblin View Post
    The concern is that they'll be used to strike deep into Russia, mostly aiming at Moscow.

    They're currently hashing out an agreement for them to be utilised against specific logistics and movement checkpoints.
    I suspect the concern is at least as much what happens if one drops down intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flarelaine View Post
    Starmer already approved.

    https://news.sky.com/story/keir-star...ussia-13176370

    Funny thing: Labour's victory rested upon rejecting most everything the Tories did, but supporting Ukraine was possibly the most popular Tory policy lately and Labour is doubling down on it.
    Blowing up Russia has fairly universal support. Easily the least controversial military action since the Falklands.

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    I think we are now getting a sense of what Ukraine is trying to achieve inside russia; to hamper russias ability to strike from the air, and by the looks of it, its working.

    Ukraine launches biggest drone attack on Russian airfields as incursion puts Kremlin on the back foot
    CNN

    Ukrainian drones targeted four Russian airfields Wednesday in the largest such attack of the war, as Kyiv’s troops advance further into Russia following their surprise cross-border incursion that has left the Kremlin embarrassed and scrambling.

    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed the military for the attacks, which he described as “precise, timely and effective,” in a video address released the same day he said Kyiv’s forces had captured Russian soldiers in southern Russia and destroyed a Russian fighter jet.

    “Our Ukrainian drones work exactly as they should. Still, there are things that cannot be done with drones alone,” Zelensky said.

    A source in Ukraine’s security service told CNN it was the “biggest attack” on Russia’s airfields since the war began and targeted four bases in the southwest regions of Kursk and Voronezh, and Nizhny Novgorod, east of Moscow.

    It comes as Ukraine’s massive ground incursion has forced tens of thousands of Russians from their homes and put Russia on the back foot as it struggles to repel Kyiv’s troops.
    Also - though unrelated to the war. In Russia, let no good deed go unpunished, severly.
    I think the title speaks for itself.
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    Its looking like Nordstream was blown up by a Ukrainian sabotage team .

    Remember , everyone was blaming Russia for this when in fact all they had to do was turn off the Gas tap to Europe.

    The Western Media has got it wrong by painting the Russians as the villains in this.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...-reports-claim

    A report by the US outlet Wall Street Journal claims Kyiv concocted the plan to blow up the pipeline bringing Russian gas to Germany in May 2022, citing four anonymous Ukrainian military sources.

    A small Ukrainian crew disguised as a pleasure boat cruise was behind the sabotage of the Nord Stream pipelines, according to a report by the Wall Street Journal.

    The operation was concocted during a drunken night in May 2022, as Ukrainian military officers celebrated halting Russia's full-scale invasion of the country and were looking to deal another blow to Moscow, the newspaper said, citing four anonymous sources familiar with the plan.

    Nord Stream is a network of pipelines running under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany to provide Western Europe with natural gas, meaning it provided billions to the Kremlin's coffers.

    The scheme reportedly cost around $300,000 (€273,000) and involved a six-member crew on a small rented yacht. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy initially approved it before the US intelligence agency CIA caught wind and asked him to stop.

    The Ukrainian president ordered a halt but his commander-in-chief, Valeriy Zaluzhniy, went ahead with the operation anyway, the WSJ said.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...ns-says-report


    Also : German authorities have issued an arrest warrant for a Ukrainian man on suspicion of being part of a team that blew up the Nord Stream gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea, according to local media reports.

    The man, a diving instructor identified only as Volodymyr Z, is last believed to have lived in Poland, and is alleged to have dived 80 metres to the seabed at night to plant explosive devices on the pipelines, which ran from Russia to Germany, in September 2022.
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