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    If Hungary goes to war with Ukraine while Ukraine is directly receiving NATO aid and support they'd be out on their arse.

    The Turkey situation isn't even comparable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    People have already long called upon Hungary to be kicked out of NATO and the EU for Orban’s actions to nothing ever happening. I chose my words carefully to avoid saying “war” and instead said “military conflict” like a low skirmish over resources. If they had a reason to engage in such actions, why would that finalize Hungary actually being kicked out if they had a reason? Turkey should have been long kicked out of NATO then for trying to regularly reason with Assad and its actions against the Kurds.
    Who called for it? Your imaginary friends?
    1. Its not exactly just 'kick em out'
    2. Everyone knows it's better to have the dumbfuck Orban within than outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    People have already long called upon Hungary to be kicked out of NATO and the EU for Orban’s actions to nothing ever happening. I chose my words carefully to avoid saying “war” and instead said “military conflict” like a low skirmish over resources. If they had a reason to engage in such actions, why would that finalize Hungary actually being kicked out if they had a reason? Turkey should have been long kicked out of NATO then for trying to regularly reason with Assad and its actions against the Kurds.
    Turkey is geographically relevant and therefore strategically important. Hungary isnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Priests...what? Just to add something else useless?
    Probably blessing the aircrafts fighting the fire or some such nonsense if they aren’t there just as moral support for the firefighters, its not an unusual thing in the orthodox parts of europe to have priests going around blessing things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    as outlandish as that article sounds, Hungary can go to miliary conflict with Ukraine if it decided to within its interests (gas). It is not off the cards, as Ukraine is not a part of NATO. Sure it'd come with backlash but do not dismiss it as unthinkable.

    Turkey does plenty of heinous shit and holds alliances against the US' interests despite being part of NATO for instance.
    You and your fantasy world again.
    Remind us all what the Turkish economy can sustain, a free banana per family?

    You are always making dumb posts, bringing up some stupidly farfetched "thing" while totally ignoring the sum of all the negative shit such a "thing" would bring.
    I mean, your train of thought suprisingly has not led to anything more than Turkey getting a handful of fighter jets, delayed Swedens NATO entry and Orban pissing off the rest of the EU.

    You ever wonder why your doomsday scenarios never pan out? Cos they are delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Priests...what? Just to add something else useless?
    They are not really useless for Putin. The church is one of the pillars he keep in check in order to kling onto power.
    Blessing firetruck.. well they have to have something to do between all the funerals.
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    Yuppie either lives in Call of Duty lala-land in between fapping to gore porn, or is a troll. There's little reason to give them the time of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    Yuppie either lives in Call of Duty lala-land in between fapping to gore porn, or is a troll. There's little reason to give them the time of the day.
    It has since long been established its not about trolling, rather more a medical issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    Yuppie either lives in Call of Duty lala-land in between fapping to gore porn, or is a troll. There's little reason to give them the time of the day.
    Man, if that is a one big troll, then I would un-ironically bow down to his commitment and skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Man, if that is a one big troll, then I would un-ironically bow down to his commitment and skill.
    I stand by my statement that at that point there's no difference between trolling and actually believing what they say.

    If someone shits their pants to troll everyone around them, they still just shit their pants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Man, if that is a one big troll, then I would un-ironically bow down to his commitment and skill.
    We've had others like him, such as Dribbles in the Brexit thread or the two clowns in the now-defunct Star Citizen one, who just constantly post nonsense after nonsense and ignore every single argument that doesn't reinforce their comically stupid takes. Again, I don't know if those are either complete fools or trolls who get off on getting piled on every time they post something obviously stupid, but either way I personally don't see any point in engaging.

    Yuppie in particular I don't think is a troll tho, just someone who has an extremely warped view of the world causing them to be impressed by big strong men (tyrants) and fantasize of large scale tragedies, leading them to think real life is like a Call of Duty game or bad Hollywood war movie where the myriad complexities of real life are replaced by said big strong men deciding to kill people because that makes them all decisive and really manly and shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    We've had others like him, such as Dribbles in the Brexit thread or the two clowns in the now-defunct Star Citizen one, who just constantly post nonsense after nonsense and ignore every single argument that doesn't reinforce their comically stupid takes. Again, I don't know if those are either complete fools or trolls who get off on getting piled on every time they post something obviously stupid, but either way I personally don't see any point in engaging.

    Yuppie in particular I don't think is a troll tho, just someone who has an extremely warped view of the world causing them to be impressed by big strong men (tyrants) and fantasize of large scale tragedies, leading them to think real life is like a Call of Duty game or bad Hollywood war movie where the myriad complexities of real life are replaced by said big strong men deciding to kill people because that makes them all decisive and really manly and shit.
    I'm waiting for her to begin raving about how Russians are experimenting on captured Ukrainians and ended up with human heads in toilets singing in Bulgarian.
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    right now, zelenskyy is meeting Modi. this is the same man that hugged Putin not too long ago.

    After that, I really question how he even keeps a straight face or tries to negotiate with him. Zelenksyy champions democracy in everything he says but Modi is basically a dictator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post


    right now, zelenskyy is meeting Modi. this is the same man that hugged Putin not too long ago.

    After that, I really question how he even keeps a straight face or tries to negotiate with him. Zelenksyy champions democracy in everything he says but Modi is basically a dictator.
    Because when you're being invaded you don't have the option to be picky about the morality of your allies. It's really obvious and this isn't even the first time you've brought up this nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    right now, zelenskyy is meeting Modi. this is the same man that hugged Putin not too long ago.

    After that, I really question how he even keeps a straight face or tries to negotiate with him. Zelenksyy champions democracy in everything he says but Modi is basically a dictator.
    Welcome to your first lesson in international diplomacy.

    It might surprise you to find out, considering your overall lack of education, that US presidents frequently meet with even authoritarian leaders in the course of their job, as well. Just last year, Biden met with Modi, both in the US and later in India. Does that mean they're "best buds" or that Biden suddenly agrees with everything that Modi does?

    Hardly.

    It's called diplomacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    as outlandish as that article sounds, Hungary can go to miliary conflict with Ukraine if it decided to within its interests (gas). It is not off the cards, as Ukraine is not a part of NATO. Sure it'd come with backlash but do not dismiss it as unthinkable.

    Turkey does plenty of heinous shit and holds alliances against the US' interests despite being part of NATO for instance.
    1. Hungary can't start a military conflict with Ukraine because the Hungarian military is a practical joke. Also being in breach of a supply contract (tho Ukraine is not actually in breach) IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE CASUS BELLI under international law.

    Not only that, but this whole thing is literally just something YOU FUCKING MADE UP, as seemingly absolutely nobody in the Hungarian government actually suggested it.

    2. Hungary getting involved militarily in Ukraine...on the side of Russia, is simply ridiculous, but if it were to occur, considering the defensive nature of NATO, would see exactly zero NATO support.

    Hungary is already on incredibly thin ice both with NATO and the EU. This would he national self mutilation.

    Now...stop with this fucking bullshit and take your fucking meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post


    right now, zelenskyy is meeting Modi. this is the same man that hugged Putin not too long ago.

    After that, I really question how he even keeps a straight face or tries to negotiate with him. Zelenksyy champions democracy in everything he says but Modi is basically a dictator.
    You mom probably hugged you every time you met her, still WW3 that you touted since the invasion started hasnt happened.
    See how things are not always white and black?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Millennial View Post
    1. Hungary can't start a military conflict with Ukraine because the Hungarian military is a practical joke. Also being in breach of a supply contract (tho Ukraine is not actually in breach) IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE CASUS BELLI under international law.

    Not only that, but this whole thing is literally just something YOU FUCKING MADE UP, as seemingly absolutely nobody in the Hungarian government actually suggested it.

    2. Hungary getting involved militarily in Ukraine...on the side of Russia, is simply ridiculous, but if it were to occur, considering the defensive nature of NATO, would see exactly zero NATO support.

    Hungary is already on incredibly thin ice both with NATO and the EU. This would he national self mutilation.

    Now...stop with this fucking bullshit and take your fucking meds.
    Excuse me, he escaped in a moment of not paying attention

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    Happy Ukraine Independence Day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    There will be a day where you hopefully will understand that you should have believed a lot less as to what Ukraine said.
    Why would I want to listen to Russia? Russia has been a hostile state, actively interfering in my country's politics, actively assassinating people on our soil, performing cyber attacks and generally operating against our interests for years. Right now, ours and Ukraine's interests are very much aligned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    as outlandish as that article sounds, Hungary can go to miliary conflict with Ukraine if it decided to within its interests (gas). It is not off the cards, as Ukraine is not a part of NATO. Sure it'd come with backlash but do not dismiss it as unthinkable.

    Turkey does plenty of heinous shit and holds alliances against the US' interests despite being part of NATO for instance.
    Hungary talks a lot of shit to get noticed and try to remind people it meant something 120 years ago, they always however tow the line because they know which side their bread is buttered.
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    On today's morning: Zelenskyy complains his allies are slow on deliveries. Chop chop.

    As Ukraine gains territory inside Russia but is pushed back in its own Donetsk region, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy heaped pressure on his Western allies for more help.

    “Our guys are doing great on all fronts. However, there is a need for faster delivery of supplies from our partners,” Zelenskyy said in an evening address on Sunday.

    “Decisions are needed, as are timely logistics for the announced aid packages. I especially address this to the United States, the United Kingdom and France,” he added.
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    And also

    "is pushed back in its own Donetsk region"


    When the fog of war was discussed last page, shit like this is why we can't just trust what's on the news. We don't know how bad it's going for Ukraine until they're forced to admit such. The news always paints it as a roaring success for Ukraine and how Russia is the one losing exponentially more when things are going bad.
    Last edited by YUPPIE; 2024-08-24 at 02:57 PM.

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