Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Gabriel]

As long as they don't deliberately target civilians, I say go for it.

[Doomcookie]

but keep in mind "wants to" is very different from "going to," so we can be rest assured they won't because all of Ukraine's allies and benefactors would rescind their support if they actually attacked Moscow. It's just a spook tactic.

Then, why did you make such a big deal about it?

[Poopymonster]

As long as they don't deliberately target civilians, I say go for it.

Operation Human Shield!
Russian Media: How dare they use our own tactics targeting civilians!

[Endus]

Ukraine wants to allegedly hit Moscow

So? Moscow's hit Kiev multiple times. The only hesitation would be if they intentionally target civilian areas rather than, say, the Kremlin.

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this just sounds unusually bloodthirsty to me:

"Our enemy will also know what the Ukrainian retaliation means,” the president said. “Worthy, symmetrical and long-range. They will know that, sooner or later, a Ukrainian response will reach any point in the Russian Federation that is a source of danger to the life of our state and our people," President Zelenskyy said.

Given that one of the three adjectives he used was "symmetrical", you're just admitting that Russia's strategy has been bloodthirsty, in your eyes. You're not actually talking about Ukraine at all.

[Gorsameth]

Yuppie calling for the bombing of civilians.

Must be a day ending in y

[Slant]

As long as they don't deliberately target civilians, I say go for it.

You're a better person than I. Anything that speeds up the end of the war, I'm fine with it. Hit Moscow wherever, let god roll the dice. I would definitely start by leveling the Kremlin, however. Hit Lenin's silly mausoleum first, just for the heck of it.

[Lanrefni]

You're a better person than I. Anything that speeds up the end of the war, I'm fine with it. Hit Moscow wherever, let god roll the dice. I would definitely start by leveling the Kremlin, however. Hit Lenin's silly mausoleum first, just for the heck of it.

I'd start with every power plant and sub station with in 100 miles of Moscow,then a couple days later start dropping bridges.

[YUPPIE]

it's crazy to advocate on strikes on Moscow even if it doesn't hit the civilians. The very act will cause all notions of bluster and fearmongering red lines to go out the window.

[Doomcookie]

it's crazy to advocate on strikes on Moscow even if it doesn't hit the civilians. The very act will cause all notions of bluster and fearmongering red lines to go out the window.

Why?

You advocated for strikes on Kiev, even if it did hit civilians. Heck, you advocated for killing millions of people.

[Endus]

it's crazy to advocate on strikes on Moscow even if it doesn't hit the civilians. The very act will cause all notions of bluster and fearmongering red lines to go out the window.

Oh noooooo.

Nobody cares. Putin's already crossed basically every line that matters. Putin's also demonstrated a complete lack of ability to constrain Ukraine.

You keep trying to suggest Putin's at the helm of a restrained superpower that's holding back from crushing Ukraine out of some sense of mercy. The reality is that Putin's at the helm of a borderline failed state that's destitute and so deeply corrupt that most of its military materiel was sold out from under it by oligarchs before any serious military action was needed. Putin's already thrown everything he's got at the wall to see what sticks, and nothing sticks. His army's incompetent, his materiel is broken down and falling apart, he can't recruit enough people to fill his ranks, he's a wet fart of a world leader.

[Gabriel]

You're a better person than I. Anything that speeds up the end of the war, I'm fine with it. Hit Moscow wherever, let god roll the dice. I would definitely start by leveling the Kremlin, however. Hit Lenin's silly mausoleum first, just for the heck of it.

I have to lay low with my wishing for genocide and calls for ethnic cleansing. The mods are onto me.

[Veggie50]

it's crazy to advocate on strikes on Moscow even if it doesn't hit the civilians. The very act will cause all notions of bluster and fearmongering red lines to go out the window.

Good, let those notions die.

[YUPPIE]

Good, let those notions die.

I meant they won't just be bluster or fearmongering should Moscow be hit the same way Kyiv has, hence why the US is still reluctant to let it happen. Missiles lobbed at government offices or Putin's villas. He would rightfully assume they're now directly after his life.

[Santti]

He would rightfully assume they're now directly after his life.

He already thinks that, and has been since this war started. Obviously.

[Endus]

I meant they won't just be bluster or fearmongering should Moscow be hit the same way Kyiv has, hence why the US is still reluctant to let it happen. Missiles lobbed at government offices or Putin's villas. He would rightfully assume they're now directly after his life.

And? Putin's already all-in and failing to achieve his goals, the idea that he's been holding back some significant resources to apply to the war effort is just beyond silly.

[Doomcookie]

I meant they won't just be bluster or fearmongering should Moscow be hit the same way Kyiv has, hence why the US is still reluctant to let it happen. Missiles lobbed at government offices or Putin's villas. He would rightfully assume they're now directly after his life.

You already swore that was the case. You even said you were upset that such a "great" man felt threatened.

[YUPPIE]

And? Putin's already all-in and failing to achieve his goals, the idea that he's been holding back some significant resources to apply to the war effort is just beyond silly.

no im not implying he's hiding some secret top emergency powers or forces in this instance. An attack directly on Moscow is a justification he can make to his subordinates for the other thing.

[Santti]

no im not implying he's hiding some secret top emergency powers or forces in this instance. An attack directly on Moscow is a justification he can make to his subordinates for the other thing.

No, the "other thing" (like we don't all know what that is) isn't happening. Obviously, again.

[Zaydin]

Yuppie hand wringing about Orcish red lines again even though Russia has declared dozens of red lines that have been crossed with zero consequences.

Can people please not feed him?

[YUPPIE]

No, the "other thing" (like we don't all know what that is) isn't happening. Obviously, again.

for an attack on Moscow, man. The heart of Russia itself. Not anywhere else here. The heart of Russia itself gets a missile lobbed its way and all the citizens living disconnected from the war start panicking and realize nowhere is safe now.

At that point, Putin wouldn't be able to just warn or bluff.

Zelenkskyy should not have stoked the imagination when he said that he intends to hit Russia close to home today.