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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    420blazeit, lol

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    This feels like a massive downgrade compared to the technicals we've been seeing for decades. Like...why? It need to be charged which seems to make it a bad mobile vehicle - no way to recharge on the go, really, not to mention the raft of technical (computer) issues and ongoing design flaws like, "It went through the car wash and now it doesn't work anymore."

    I guess it's incredibly on-brand for the Russian military to take what might be one of the shittiest trucks ever made and try to turn it into some kinda weirdo weapons platform for internet likes.
    Nothing will beat an '80s Hi Lux. Thought these were all super-traceable with their fancy electronic gizmos, why's Elon letting people breach sanctions so easily?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Nothing will beat an '80s Hi Lux. Thought these were all super-traceable with their fancy electronic gizmos, why's Elon letting people breach sanctions so easily?
    Apparently he's having his people brick those trucks. So they're not really working anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    Hey, speaking of delivery vehicles, heres Kadyrov...

    More gun-equipped Tesla cybertrucks spotted in Russian Army
    So now we can merge this thread with the Elon Musk thread, which in turn merged into the election thread...
    Imagine spending somewhere between 80 to 110k USD to buy one of the most underwhelming "offroad" vehicles on the market, which by the way, you need to plug in to a power source to fuel, just to slap a machine gun on the back.

    You also have to spend about 25k on average to buy a Toyota Hilux to tow your Cybertruck when it will inevitably break down. Just skip the unnecessary steps and slap the machine gun on the back of the Hilux.

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    Some detailed before/after satellite photos of that sarmat missile launch explosion site.



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    Going to need a major rebuild before they can do anymore tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Going to need a major rebuild before they can do anymore tests.
    Going to have to figure out why they keep failing, too.
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    https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status...10393680417062

    Estimation of 610k vatniks sent to hell (pseudo-literal and "russian military hospital kind" of hell)from whence they came.

    Remember when some people said 300k was impossible and propaganda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status...10393680417062

    Estimation of 610k vatniks sent to hell (pseudo-literal and "russian military hospital kind" of hell)from whence they came.

    Remember when some people said 300k was impossible and propaganda?
    Ukraininan sources have it a bit higher:

    https://x.com/Ulfh3dnar_/status/1838075788416913494

    643k fertilisers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Ukraininan sources have it a bit higher:

    https://x.com/Ulfh3dnar_/status/1838075788416913494

    643k fertilisers.
    How would one use such a high amount of fertilizer? Ukraine needs to borrow some russian soil for that special botany operation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    643k fertilisers.
    Reminder: casualties is not just killed, but also wounded. Conventional wisdom suggests around a 3:1 ratio of wounded to killed. It's probably no more than 150k fertilizers.

    I notice that Saradain changed their post to account for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Reminder: casualties is not just killed, but also wounded. Conventional wisdom suggests around a 3:1 ratio of wounded to killed. It's probably no more than 150k fertilizers.

    I notice that Saradain changed their post to account for this.
    I mean they are great use for French method to make saltpeter and then into bullets later.
    At least they would be usefull for something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Reminder: casualties is not just killed, but also wounded. Conventional wisdom suggests around a 3:1 ratio of wounded to killed. It's probably no more than 150k fertilizers.

    I notice that Saradain changed their post to account for this.
    This absolutely should not be taken as granted when we are talking about the Russian army. They don't really give a shit about their wounded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    This absolutely should not be taken as granted when we are talking about the Russian army. They don't really give a shit about their wounded.
    That's already baked in. That "conventional wisdom" is actually relatively old. The US, for example, typically has a much higher ratio these days, more like 10:1, due to advances in medical trauma care and the improved ability to get wounded soldiers to that care rapidly. That's also because the US pretty much never fights near-peer opponents, though.

    Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine, on the other hand... 3:1 is more accurate. Current estimates for Russian dead probably put it closer to 4:1, even. But nowhere near the recent US ratios.
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    Seems like a Russian fighter entered Japanese airspace and was greeted with flares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Reminder: casualties is not just killed, but also wounded. Conventional wisdom suggests around a 3:1 ratio of wounded to killed. It's probably no more than 150k fertilizers.

    I notice that Saradain changed their post to account for this.
    Given that we have seen russians execute their own wounded when retreating I wouldn't be sure it's fair to apply conventional wisdom to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Given that we have seen russians execute their own wounded when retreating I wouldn't be sure it's fair to apply conventional wisdom to them
    Given how they've handled this 3 day weekend, I wouldn't be sure it's fair to apply wisdom to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    At this rate the nukes may be fine
    Nukes decay in a predictable way, and have a limited "shell life" and need to be rebuild/rejuvenated after a few decades.

    If they can not maintain a ICBM, what make you think they maintain the nuckes themself.

    Maintain = as in physics maintenance/repairs and maintain institutionell knowledge how to operate the equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    This absolutely should not be taken as granted when we are talking about the Russian army. They don't really give a shit about their wounded.
    Now now lets not paint them all so inhumane. Some of them, if not under fire and there is spare ammo, will also kill their wounded comrades if the mood hits. Totally sparing them from suffering.
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    Some more detailed satellite photos of the exploded ammo arsenals.

    https://www.twz.com/news-features/sa...rainian-drones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomen View Post
    Nukes decay in a predictable way, and have a limited "shell life" and need to be rebuild/rejuvenated after a few decades.

    If they can not maintain a ICBM, what make you think they maintain the nuckes themself.

    Maintain = as in physics maintenance/repairs and maintain institutionell knowledge how to operate the equipment.

    When I say "the nukes may be fine" I'm saying: "well, if the missiles explode on the launchpad then it doesn't really matter whether or not the warhead works since they won't leave the country that way.".

    I'm well aware of the finickiness of nukes and the he need to maintain them.

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