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    Some more detailed satellite photos of the exploded ammo arsenals.

    https://www.twz.com/news-features/sa...rainian-drones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomen View Post
    Nukes decay in a predictable way, and have a limited "shell life" and need to be rebuild/rejuvenated after a few decades.

    If they can not maintain a ICBM, what make you think they maintain the nuckes themself.

    Maintain = as in physics maintenance/repairs and maintain institutionell knowledge how to operate the equipment.

    When I say "the nukes may be fine" I'm saying: "well, if the missiles explode on the launchpad then it doesn't really matter whether or not the warhead works since they won't leave the country that way.".

    I'm well aware of the finickiness of nukes and the he need to maintain them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilian View Post
    Now now lets not paint them all so inhumane. Some of them, if not under fire and there is spare ammo, will also kill their wounded comrades if the mood hits. Totally sparing them from suffering.
    Based humanitarian Russian soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomen View Post
    If they can not maintain a ICBM, what make you think they maintain the nuckes themself.
    This had nothing to do with maintenance at all.

    The missile that blew up is a brand new system.
    The Sarmat is one of six new Russian strategic weapons unveiled by Russian president Vladimir Putin on 1 March 2018. The RS-28 Sarmat made its first test flight on 20 April 2022. On 16 August 2022, a state contract was signed for the manufacture and supply of the Sarmat strategic missile system. The missile officially entered operational service in September 2023, as the world's longest range and most powerful extant ICBM system. Despite the Russian claims that the missile is on 'combat alert' it has experienced four failed tests, the most recent on 21 September 2024.
    Clearly, it was never "ready".

    - - - Updated - - -

    The 57th session of the UN Human Rights Council is ongoing this month, and Erik Møse, the Chair of the Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine just gave a report:
    The Commission has documented new cases of torture committed by Russian authorities against civilians and prisoners of war in Ukraine and in the Russian Federation. Most victims were men. We gathered evidence of sexual violence used as torture, mainly against male victims in detention, and of rapes targeting women in villages under Russian control.

    During previous mandates, the Commission highlighted that torture committed by Russian authorities has been widespread and systematic. Our recent investigations show that Russian authorities have committed torture in Ukrainian regions where they have taken control of territories. This reinforces the finding that torture has been widespread. The Commission had also previously established that torture was systematic, as demonstrated by common elements regarding the categories of persons targeted, the aims for which torture was used, and the similarity of methods employed.

    In the present mandate, the Commission has identified additional common elements in the use of torture by Russian authorities, reinforcing the finding that this was systematic. One element is the consistency of practices in detention centres where detainees from Ukraine have been held in the Russian Federation, and the replication of these practices in several large penitentiary centres in occupied areas of Ukraine. Another common element emerging from the evidence points towards a coordinated use of personnel from specific services of the Russian Federation who are involved in torture in all the detention facilities investigated by the Commission. A further common feature is the recurrent use of sexual violence as a form of torture in almost all these detention centres.

    Moreover, the Commission notes testimonies of former detainees according to which penitentiary personnel in the Russian Federation referred to orders to inflict brutal treatment. Testimonies also illustrate that, in some detention facilities, higher ranking Russian authorities ordered, tolerated, or took no action to stop such treatment. For instance, in a detention centre in occupied territories of Ukraine, a witness described the arrival of a penitentiary official from the Russian Federation who introduced himself to the detainees, stating, “I broke everyone and will do the same to you”.

    The wide geographic spread of locations where torture was committed and the prevalence of shared patterns demonstrate that torture has been used as a common and acceptable practice by Russian authorities, with a sense of impunity.

    A disturbing factor reported in many detention facilities operated by Russian authorities, is the lack of adequate medical assistance to those who desperately needed it. In one facility, even penitentiary doctors participated in the torture.

    One egregious illustration was provided through compelling testimonies of former detainees in the Volnovakha Correctional Colony, known as Olenivka, in Ukraine, on 29 July 2022, when a blast led to the death of many Ukrainian prisoners of war. According to them, no immediate medical support was provided to dozens of others who suffered life-threatening injuries. Ukrainian military doctors, detained in the colony, were the only ones attempting to deliver first aid during that night. They recounted assisting fellow soldiers, in the dark and without vital medical equipment, using the small amount of supplies remaining in their own first-aid kits and bed sheets for bandages. They saw many die that night, while the leadership of the Olenivka colony stood by and watched.
    Welp, this should put to rest the question of whether or not all the Ukrainian POWs were being tortured. This is not coincidence, nor is it localized to specific prison camp leadership.

    This is on direct orders from Russia's military leadership (i.e., Putin) and supplemented by specifically trained Russian torture personnel.
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    Trump, in an attempt to suck up to Putin even more, tried to discourage spending on aid to Ukraine on the theory that it was pointless.

    Of Ukraine, he said:
    Those cities are gone, they’re gone, and we continue to give billions of dollars to a man who refused to make a deal, Zelensky. There was no deal that he could have made that wouldn’t have been better than the situation you have right now. You have a country that has been obliterated, not possible to be rebuilt.
    Boy, what astounding hyperbole. Why does it sound so familiar, though...?
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Ukraine won't be a normal country for like 100+ years.
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Ukraine is largely uninhabitable
    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    ukraine won't be a normal country for any foreseeable lifetime, no.
    ...oh, right.

    Well, Yuppers is on vacation, so I can't ask him if he minds Trump stealing his schtick, but I will reiterate that the position Trump is now taking is an objectively batshit crazy one. Hell, even a sizeable portion of his voter base (who tend to blindly follow him on just about everything) disagree with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Trump, in an attempt to suck up to Putin even more, tried to discourage spending on aid to Ukraine on the theory that it was pointless.

    Of Ukraine, he said:

    Boy, what astounding hyperbole. Why does it sound so familiar, though...?



    ...oh, right.

    Well, Yuppers is on vacation, so I can't ask him if he minds Trump stealing his schtick, but I will reiterate that the position Trump is now taking is an objectively batshit crazy one. Hell, even a sizeable portion of his voter base (who tend to blindly follow him on just about everything) disagree with him.
    Inbefore Yuppie is actually Donald Trump....

    That would explain a few things....

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    *sigh*

    Can't we just, you know, enjoy the fucking respite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    *sigh*

    Can't we just, you know, enjoy the fucking respite?
    Respite? You mean permanent, eternal bliss? He stopped being active around his sudden unexplained ban with no red card icons anywhere, ie unable to determine the post that got an infraction. That implies...permaban. No guarantees sadly, but signs are good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuiking View Post
    Inbefore Yuppie is actually Donald Trump....
    Not enough ALL CAPS TEXT! for that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Respite? You mean permanent, eternal bliss? He stopped being active around his sudden unexplained ban with no red card icons anywhere, ie unable to determine the post that got an infraction. That implies...permaban. No guarantees sadly, but signs are good!
    I couldn't find an infraction in his last 100 posts here, either, so it looks like you're probably right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I couldn't find an infraction in his last 100 posts here, either, so it looks like you're probably right.
    Refer to https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2654162-Banwave for further speculation.

    To stay in topic, uh...Russia claimed Ukraine has founded concentration camps within Kursk region. And that Ukraine is gathering russian nationals from the border region to said camps. Proof? What proof? Trust me bro.

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    Given the UN just released a report saying russia is running actual concentration camps, this is them just going 'no, you'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Respite? You mean permanent, eternal bliss? He stopped being active around his sudden unexplained ban with no red card icons anywhere, ie unable to determine the post that got an infraction. That implies...permaban. No guarantees sadly, but signs are good!
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    I couldn't find an infraction in his last 100 posts here, either, so it looks like you're probably right.


    NOOOOOOOOOO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    NOOOOOOOOOO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?
    Peace and tranquility for all of time for MMO-C off-topic section. Gabriel. It is okay to let go. You can finally rest now. Your fight is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Peace and tranquility for all of time for MMO-C off-topic section. Gabriel. It is okay to let go. You can finally rest now. Your fight is over.
    There's always the Brexit thread...


    ...just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Peace and tranquility for all of time for MMO-C off-topic section. Gabriel. It is okay to let go. You can finally rest now. Your fight is over.


    If true I can finally safely take him off ignore. It's made finding this thread quickly a real pill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Peace and tranquility for all of time for MMO-C off-topic section. Gabriel. It is okay to let go. You can finally rest now. Your fight is over.


    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    There's always the Brexit thread...


    ...just sayin'.
    I'm not that crazy. The Gun-Control thread is nice, but I always feel dirty after going there, because I sometimes have to argue on the side of absolute mouthbreathers because of my own views.
    Last edited by Gabriel; 2024-09-26 at 05:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Refer to https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2654162-Banwave for further speculation.

    To stay in topic, uh...Russia claimed Ukraine has founded concentration camps within Kursk region. And that Ukraine is gathering russian nationals from the border region to said camps. Proof? What proof? Trust me bro.
    The tried and true ancient tactic of just accusing the other guy for what you are doing.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Trump again shows where his allegiances lay.

    Zelensky to make urgent in-person plea to Biden and Harris as Ukraine braces for possibility of a Trump presidency
    CNN — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s visit to the White House on Thursday could be his final chance to convince a receptive American president of his country’s war aims.

    The precise details of the “victory plan” Zelensky plans to present in separate meetings to President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris are unknown, having been closely held until they are presented to the American leaders.
    .....
    Biden is usually apt to take his time making decisions about providing Ukraine new capabilities. But with November’s election potentially portending a major change in American approach to the war if Trump were to win, Ukrainian officials — and many American ones — believe there is little time to waste.

    Trump has claimed he will be able to “settle” the war upon taking office and has suggested he’ll end US support for Kyiv’s war effort.

    “Those cities are gone, they’re gone, and we continue to give billions of dollars to a man who refused to make a deal, Zelensky. There was no deal that he could have made that wouldn’t have been better than the situation you have right now. You have a country that has been obliterated, not possible to be rebuilt,” Trump said during a campaign speech in Mint Hill, North Carolina, on Wednesday.


    Comments like those have lent new weight to Thursday’s Oval Office talks, according to American and European officials, who have described an imperative to surge assistance to Ukraine while Biden is still in office.
    Apparently Zelensky was set to meet with trump as well as Biden and Harris to discuss the plan, but with talk like this I seriously doubt it. In fact I expect an all caps I HATE ZELENSKY tweet to pop up sometime in the middle of the night.
    I hope this is another issue that Harris can campaign with. Though the magats maybe lost, I think they are still republicans out there that still oppose putins aggression. Though they made wring their hands on how much they have given Ukraine, I doubt they still want to see a democratic country fall, or are aware of what could happen if that does come to pass.
    Trumps the one that has recently been bringing up world war 3. I think Harris needs to speak to the people on what happens should putin win.
    Guess we shall see how it turns out today.

    Updated with some more insight, thanks to Alexander Vindman.
    A Trump Win Would Cause a Crisis for Kyiv—but Wouldn’t Guarantee Defeat
    ....
    An alternative outcome in the 2024 U.S. election would be extremely dangerous for Ukraine. Former President Donald Trump and his running mate, Ohio Senator J. D. Vance, would helm an isolationist administration that would cease all U.S. support for Ukraine, disengage from European security, and make friendly overtures to Russia and other authoritarian countries while projecting hostility to NATO and other traditional allies. Under these circumstances, Kyiv’s remaining partners would be able to provide just enough assistance to maintain the country’s defenses, limiting Russian forces to slow, incremental gains. At worst, U.S. detachment from Ukraine and Europe could cause the war to devolve into a wider conflict.
    .....
    Last edited by alach; 2024-09-26 at 11:23 AM.

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    The US just dropped an 8 billion dollar aid package.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...t-for-ukraine/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saradain View Post
    Respite? You mean permanent, eternal bliss? He stopped being active around his sudden unexplained ban with no red card icons anywhere, ie unable to determine the post that got an infraction. That implies...permaban. No guarantees sadly, but signs are good!
    Doesn't mean it's a perma. You can get infractions for abusive private messages, which won't show up anywhere in their post history for obvious reasons.


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