1. #41801
    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    I think the narrative would be closer to "Our soldiers are defending Europe and democracy from a 21st century Hitler who has shown his barbarism in the Ukraine over the last three years."
    Please. We've become so pussified that the public would demand we capitulate to Russia after the first 100 body bags.

  2. #41802
    More executions of POWs by Russians a few days ago.
    They have done this for a while now, but I figured it's worth mentioning how frequently this happens.

    Of course, once again, the Russian population and bloggers find nothing wrong with it.


    Not related to that specific incident, but this is generally the footage available to proof it, aside from interecepted or posted material by the mutants themselves.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/06/e...cmd/index.html
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40149
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39898

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33 View Post
    More executions of POWs by Russians a few days ago.
    They have done this for a while now, but I figured it's worth mentioning how frequently this happens.

    Of course, once again, the Russian population and bloggers find nothing wrong with it.


    Not related to that specific incident, but this is generally the footage available to proof it, aside from interecepted or posted material by the mutants themselves.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/06/e...cmd/index.html
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/40149
    https://www.kyivpost.com/post/39898
    Americans aren't moved by it.
    They see a some people, in a building, being shot.
    First thing that comes out of their mouth is "They're a little old to be in school aren't they?"
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    Seoul has summoned the russian ambassador and demanded all north Korean forces leave russia or they will respond with all measures available.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c625p2wy3q7o

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Seoul has summoned the russian ambassador and demanded all north Korean forces leave russia or they will respond with all measures available.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c625p2wy3q7o
    From the article:

    Later on Monday, Kremlin Spoketool Dmitry Peskov told reporters the cooperation between the two nations is "not directed against third countries".

    Translation: Russia considers Ukraine to be part of Russia, so no third countries are involved.
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    Apart from the fact all the tech they are providing NK is directed at SK.

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    I did not have SK being the first to openly give Russia an ultimatum like that on my bingo card ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantique View Post
    I did not have SK being the first to openly give Russia an ultimatum like that on my bingo card ...
    Let's hope SK starts shipping real stuff to Ukraine, compared to what NK has been sending to Russia.
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  9. #41809
    Gravity has claimed another sacrifice.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-ru...223912633.html
    Former Russian oil executive found dead after ‘fall’
    A former Russian oil executive has been found dead after apparently falling from the window of his Moscow flat.

    Mikhail Rogachev was found outside his 10th-story apartment in Moscow with injuries consistent with a fall, Russian media reported.

    Russian news agencies said authorities were treating his death as a suicide.

    Telegram channels close to the Russian security services said his body was discovered by an agent of the SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service, who was walking the dog of a senior spymaster in the building’s courtyard on Saturday morning.

    The 64-year-old was a former vice-president of Yukos, the oil giant that was broken up and after its billionaire owner Mikhail Khodorkovsky was imprisoned after challenging Vladimir Putin.

    He went on to work as executive director of the Onexim group, oligarch Mikhail Prokhorov’s investment vehicle, and later deputy general director of Norilsk Nickel, a mining giant.

    He is the latest of nearly a dozen Russian energy executives to die in mysterious circumstances over the past two years.

    Leonid Shulman, the head of the transport service at Gazprom Invest, which handles investment projects for state-owned gas giant, was found dead in a cottage north of St Petersburg in January 2022.

    Alexander Tyulakov, another executive at Gazprom, was found dead in the garage of his St Petersburg home on February 25 that year, the morning after Russia invaded Ukraine, Russian media reported.

    Later that year Ravil Magonov, the chairman of Lukoil, an oil giant, died after falling out of the window of a Moscow hospital.

    Vladimir Nekrasov, who succeeded him as the chair of the Lukoil board, died in October last year of heart failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    Gravity has claimed another sacrifice.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-ru...223912633.html
    Former Russian oil executive found dead after ‘fall’
    If I ever move to Russia I'm living in a windowless, one story house. And I'll probably somehow still manage to tragically fall to my own death.

  11. #41811
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    If I ever move to Russia I'm living in a windowless, one story house. And I'll probably somehow still manage to tragically fall to my own death.
    Yup, the list is interesting to say the least. I am sure they could come up with something like the guy who committed suicide in 2022 by shooting himself in the chest 5 times.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspic...2%E2%80%932024

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deus Mortis View Post
    I am sure they could come up with something like the guy who committed suicide in 2022 by shooting himself in the chest 5 times.
    Every time I see one of these nobody-would-believe-this-story explanations, I'm reminded of this passage from I, Claudius by Robert Graves (an excellent book):
    A few days later Drusillus was dead. He was found lying behind a bush in the garden of a house at Pompeii where he had been invited, from Herculaneum by some friends of Urgulanilla’s. A small pear was found stuck in his throat. It was said at the inquest that he had been seen throwing fruit up in the air and trying to catch it in his mouth: his death was unquestionably due to an accident. But nobody believed this. It was clear that Livia, not having been consulted about the marriage of one of her own great-grandchildren, had arranged for the child to be strangled and the pear crammed down his throat afterwards. As was the custom in such cases, the pear tree was charged with murder and sentenced to be uprooted and burned.
    The absurdity of the "polite" fiction.
    R.I.P. Democracy


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    and genius is that genius has its limits."

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    Honestly, at this stage it is more dangerous to be an oil executive in russia than the defence against the dark arts teacher at Hogwarts.

    Funny how the body was discovered by one of pootie's spys as well. Wonder what he was doing there to start with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    If I ever move to Russia I'm living in a windowless, one story house. And I'll probably somehow still manage to tragically fall to my own death.
    I don’t wanna victim blame here. And maybe it just is that difficult to, say, get a gun in Russia… but I’d think an otherwise wealthy person that didn’t just up and flee that thought they might be on the outs would procure some sort of defensive weapon and you’d hear about one of these cases were the would-be assassin got blown away.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I don’t wanna victim blame here. And maybe it just is that difficult to, say, get a gun in Russia… but I’d think an otherwise wealthy person that didn’t just up and flee that thought they might be on the outs would procure some sort of defensive weapon and you’d hear about one of these cases were the would-be assassin got blown away.
    Somehow I don't think being armed is much of a deterrent. Or would be terribly effective.

    I'm pretty comfortable "victim blaming" whenever I see a shady Russian oligarch in bed with Putin finding out that there are actually some risks/downsides to massive fraud/theft in the name of being fabulously wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Somehow I don't think being armed is much of a deterrent. Or would be terribly effective.
    I mean… maybe not in the long run. But these greedy self-centered pricks are just that; greedy and self-centered. I can’t imagine they’d be content to “die nobly.”


    And unless these assassins are pulling some sort of super spy infiltration, beating alarm systems and whatnot… a gun would work pretty well, at least initially. I imagine for the most part it’s a bash-down-the-door, throw you out the window type of job.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    And unless these assassins are pulling some sort of super spy infiltration, beating alarm systems and whatnot… a gun would work pretty well, at least initially. I imagine for the most part it’s a bash-down-the-door, throw you out the window type of job.
    I think you're forgetting about the type of people you're talking about. You know, ones who have no qualms about sending bodies ahead of them to absorb any lead that might get slung their way until it runs out, then stepping over the bodies to show whomever is left the nice view on the balcony...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benggaul View Post
    I think you're forgetting about the type of people you're talking about. You know, ones who have no qualms about sending bodies ahead of them to absorb any lead that might get slung their way until it runs out, then stepping over the bodies to show whomever is left the nice view on the balcony...
    Sure. But again, at that rate... I'd figure that you'd hear about that at least somewhat. It's a bit easier to cover up "neighbors dimly report a struggle and a man is dead on the ground floor" than "reports of gunfire, three dead bodies and an apartment riddled with bullet holes" as a 'suicide.'
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Sure. But again, at that rate... I'd figure that you'd hear about that at least somewhat. It's a bit easier to cover up "neighbors dimly report a struggle and a man is dead on the ground floor" than "reports of gunfire, three dead bodies and an apartment riddled with bullet holes" as a 'suicide.'
    Oh I don't think you realize just how much people can ignore or "fail to report"--especially when being selectively deaf/blind is more conducive to a longer life. Back in the States there were plenty of instances of "sorry, officer, I didn't see or hear anything and I have no idea how those tiny holes got in the wall" in the building I lived in. I can't imagine it's any better in Russia.

    I am, of course, wildly speculating when it comes to these poor, poor people who somehow just can't handle a 3rd story room with an open window.

  20. #41820
    Quote Originally Posted by PhaelixWW View Post
    Every time I see one of these nobody-would-believe-this-story explanations, I'm reminded of this passage from I, Claudius by Robert Graves (an excellent book):
    I see you are a man of culture.

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