Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kreuger]

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-...ia-2024-11-17/

"Biden lifts ban on Ukraine using US arms to strike inside Russia"

Very very good

[Azadina]

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-...ia-2024-11-17/

"Biden lifts ban on Ukraine using US arms to strike inside Russia"

Very very good

Finally! Get fucked mordor!

Next step is giving them any and all stuff they need to launch over.

[DarkAmbient]

Storm Shadows next please.

[Blur4stuff]

Alright Ukraine. You've got a few months still so make it count.

[PhaelixWW]

Storm Shadows next please.

IIRC, the only thing holding back Ukraine's free use of Storm Shadows was the fact that they had some US tech inside which meant that the US had to approve it, too.

[Kreuger]

Uk and France follows

"France and the U.K. have granted Ukraine permission to conduct deep strikes into Russian territory using their SCALP and Storm Shadow missiles, Le Figaro reported on Nov. 17.

This decision coincides with U.S. President Joe Biden’s authorization for Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range ATACMS missiles for strikes inside Russia, a significant shift in U.S. policy following months of hesitation."

https://kyivindependent.com/uk-franc...igaro-reports/

[alach]

Let's go?
Will I be infracted for hoping to see Moscow in flames this week?

Ukraine also signed a pretty hefty defense deal with Japan yesterday. Thanks lil kimmy.

[DarkAmbient]

Uk and France follows

"France and the U.K. have granted Ukraine permission to conduct deep strikes into Russian territory using their SCALP and Storm Shadow missiles, Le Figaro reported on Nov. 17.

This decision coincides with U.S. President Joe Biden’s authorization for Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied long-range ATACMS missiles for strikes inside Russia, a significant shift in U.S. policy following months of hesitation."

https://kyivindependent.com/uk-franc...igaro-reports/

They're quoting Le Figaro but I can't find anything about it in Le Figaro's content anywhere. I mean it's probably going to happen but there's currently no other source.

[Kreuger]

They're quoting Le Figaro but I can't find anything about it in Le Figaro's content anywhere. I mean it's probably going to happen but there's currently no other source.

Yeah, checked figaro aswell now, cant see anything aswell, hopefully something will be released soon to clarify things

[Shadowferal]

They're quoting Le Figaro but I can't find anything about it in Le Figaro's content anywhere. I mean it's probably going to happen but there's currently no other source.

Biden also gave the go-ahead for US weapons to be used as well. Biden allows Ukraine to use US arms to strike inside Russia

President Joe Biden's administration has allowed Ukraine to use U.S.-made weapons to strike deep into Russia, two U.S. officials and a source familiar with the decision said on Sunday, in a significant reversal of Washington's policy in the Ukraine-Russia conflict. Ukraine plans to conduct its first long-range attacks in the coming days, the sources said, without revealing details due to operational security concerns.

The move comes two months before President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Jan. 20 and follows months of pleas by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to allow Ukraine's military to use U.S. weapons to hit Russian military targets far from its border.

The change comes largely in response to Russia's deployment of North Korean ground troops to supplement its own forces, a development that has caused alarm in Washington and Kyiv, a U.S. official and a source familiar with the decision said.

The White House and the State Department declined to comment. The Ukrainian foreign ministry and president's office did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Russia has warned that it would see a move to loosen the limits on Ukraine's use of U.S. weapons as a major escalation.

While some U.S. officials have expressed skepticism that allowing long-range strikes will change the war's overall trajectory, the decision could help Ukraine at a moment when Russian forces are making gains and possibly put Kyiv in a better negotiating position when and if ceasefire talks happen.
It is not clear if Trump will reverse Biden's decision when he takes office. Trump has long criticized the scale of U.S. financial and military aid to Ukraine and has vowed to end the war quickly, without explaining how.

A Trump spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment. But one of Trump's closest foreign policy advisers, Richard Grenell, criticized the decision.

"Escalating the wars before he leaves office," Grenell said, in an X post responding to the news.

Some congressional Republicans had urged Biden to loosen the rules on how Ukraine can use U.S.-provided weapons.

Since Trump's Nov. 5 victory, senior Biden administration officials have repeatedly said they would use the remaining time to ensure Ukraine can fight effectively next year or negotiate peace with Russia from a "position of strength".

Poland's foreign minister, Radoslaw Sikorski, also called the move a response to North Korea's involvement.

"President Biden responded to the entry of North Korean troops into the war and the massive Russian missile strike in a language that V. Putin understands - by removing restrictions on Ukraine's use of Western missiles," Sikorski said on X.

Kind of a big "fuck you" to Trump diplomacy.

[Huehuecoyotl]

Wow, this is really big news. I'm amazed that @Easo didn't see it coming and let us know.

[DarkAmbient]

Biden also gave the go-ahead for US weapons to be used as well.

I was referring to UK and France allegedly giving permission for the Storm Shadows. It was reported in Kyiv Independent but nowhere else.

What is it with Biden waiting too long to do the right thing...

[Liftbrul]

Wow, this is really big news. I'm amazed that @Easo didn't see it coming and let us know.

Something something fog of war.

[Vampiregenesis]

Dems are playing their final card, long range missiles inside Russia. They won't go down without triggering ww3 first.

[Doomcookie]

Dems are playing their final card, long range missiles inside Russia. They won't go down without triggering ww3 first.

Perhaps you should go chat with the country that started the war, and tell them to go the fuck back home.

[Fugus]

If only Biden had allowed them to do this last year, this might potentially have been over by now. Still find it sad we were willing to pussyfoot around with Russia because they have nukes. We know where appeasement and brinksmanship gets people and knew how this needed to go.

Saying we would be risking WW3 is a cop out honestly. If Russia would be allowed to achieve this, they just open the door to do it again later after they regrouped. Once it came down to them doing it intentionally to keep them from joining NATO, NATO should have taken it as the attack it was. Europe should already be more involved as well given that Russia has been launching operations directly on their soil as well.

Better late than never I guess, but given we are about to how Putin's puppet running the nation, we might end up with the US stopping all aid to Ukraine and potentially even giving it to Russia instead. Would suck to see US soldiers over there helping Russia after all this.

[Shadowferal]

Dems are playing their final card, long range missiles inside Russia. They won't go down without triggering ww3 first.

And how many times have you claimed that?

[PhaelixWW]

Better late than never I guess, but given we are about to how Putin's puppet running the nation, we might end up with the US stopping all aid to Ukraine and potentially even giving it to Russia instead. Would suck to see US soldiers over there helping Russia after all this.

Don't be ridiculous. There's zero chance that we'll send aid to Russia.

[Fugus]

Don't be ridiculous. There's zero chance that we'll send aid to Russia.

I would give it a non-zero chance given the president will be his employee who actually owes him and will be surrounding himself with loyalists who will gladly go along with it and appears to be trying to purge the military of patriotic leaders to replace them with lackeys.

Iran Contra Affair Part Two, Trump edition.

[Dontrike]

Dems are playing their final card, long range missiles inside Russia. They won't go down without triggering ww3 first.

It's cute you think any country would side with Russia enough to cause a World War.