Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

Alleged Russian plan sees Ukraine 'cut' into 3 parts, intelligence source says


They really think we are all living in the middle ages eh? Makes sense, I have heard much of russia is pretty primitive.
I dunno about this plan, it sounds pretty crazy, like picking elon musk for government oversight or a anti-vaxxer for the secretary of health.
... Oh shit.

Also, as a counter point to doomposting, Ukraine has successful finished production on one hundred of their home-made missiles.

Secret?

Medvedev has been broadcasting such maps for a while already.

[Wilian]

It does really read like "we are out of missiles but the boss threatened to throw us out of the window if we didn't launch something in retaliation".

Those things do not have the accuracy required for any sort of targeted strike, as in we hope it lands within a few 100 meters.

Nah. Its posturing and their response to """"escalation""""".

Russia does have enough missile and drone production currently for sustained campaigns and what they might lack their allies keep providing them in substantial numbers unlike us to Ukraine.

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You do not even understand what a warning is. A horrifying thought.

But hey, I am wrong on everything and all that:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0dpdx420lo


Also this totally is not a proxy war, bro, trust me, and West absolutely is not involved in it up to their balls, broooo:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckglpy95nxwo

P.S.
Ukraine will beg more for THAAD now I guess. But they are not Israel...



"Putin HUMILIATED!!!111" vibes here. And here I thought it would be "all nukes rusted, nothing will fly" crap.

You are correct in that you are wrong. On wrong side of history, on wrong side morally, of wrong opinion of events and on wrong forum to shill for your Dear Leader Putin the Third Day.

[Azadina]

You do not even understand what a warning is. A horrifying thought.

But hey, I am wrong on everything and all that:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0dpdx420lo


Also this totally is not a proxy war, bro, trust me, and West absolutely is not involved in it up to their balls, broooo:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckglpy95nxwo

P.S.
Ukraine will beg more for THAAD now I guess. But they are not Israel...



"Putin HUMILIATED!!!111" vibes here. And here I thought it would be "all nukes rusted, nothing will fly" crap.

Taking the mask off kinda loses the cool after you've done it several times before. Especially after couple of years of people already knowing what's underneath. It just....lacks the shock value at this point. Nice try though, again.

[Gabriel]

God I wish the Danes would just sink the goddamn Chinese ship that broke the cable.

[PhaelixWW]

God I wish the Danes would just sink the goddamn Chinese ship that broke the cable.

They boarded it a while ago. Why sink it now?

[Gabriel]

They boarded it a while ago. Why sink it now?

Because I want them to sink it.

[PhaelixWW]

Because I want them to sink it.

You want Russia to get another submarine?

[Gabriel]

You want Russia to get another submarine?

I'm a generous man.

[Slant]

The goddamn Ålanders could do with some collateral damage for smooching off of my goddamn tax money...

I'm so tired with the entire concept of hybrid warfare. We need to stop using the term, and just start calling it overt acts of war.

Too much bullshit. War is war, call it war. Doesn't matter if it's covert or not. Covert acts of war is just hybrid warfare with a different smell of bullshit.

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I'm sure he has more up his sleeve for sure but ICBM just reeks of desperation, like he's losing badly and he's actually staring down the barrel of launching actual nukes which he knows results in mutually assured destruction. All over a few hundred kilometers of land in Ukraine.

Sure, devastating for Ukrainians if that happens, but Putler is throwing all his bullshit at Ukraine and still losing badly.

I wonder if he knows how sick the West is of him. How much some people are just hoping for the right kind of excuse to basically delete an experiment on Planet Earth that should never have run for as long as it has now. All that's keeping him alive is basically Western restraint and the idea that if WW3 went down, the West doesn't want to be the one that started it, even if they are most definitely going to be the ones that end it 30 Mins later.

[Azadina]

They boarded it a while ago. Why sink it now?

I think a torpedo to the side of the hull might amplify the message that ought to be sent. Boarding and ultimately doing nothing much doesn't.

[Iphie]

US officials say the strike on Dnipro was a medium range missile not an ICBM. To be honest, that would make much more sense than an ICBM.

[Makabreska]

Oh? Pootie is about to make a special announcement. He got really riled up be recent events.

Expect more of the "hurr durr we stronk! GTFO or WW3!!!"

[Jessicka]

You do not even understand what a warning is. A horrifying thought.

But hey, I am wrong on everything and all that:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0dpdx420lo


Also this totally is not a proxy war, bro, trust me, and West absolutely is not involved in it up to their balls, broooo:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckglpy95nxwo

P.S.
Ukraine will beg more for THAAD now I guess. But they are not Israel...



"Putin HUMILIATED!!!111" vibes here. And here I thought it would be "all nukes rusted, nothing will fly" crap.

Well this aged like milk in the sun.

[diller]

They boarded it a while ago. Why sink it now?

I'm pretty sure they haven't - there is no legal basis for it yet.

[LeGin v4]

I wonder if he knows how sick the West is of him.

It's exactly this

Shills like Easo misjudge the level of anger

"Don't poke the Russian bear" is a take that's long been discredited

War is war and if that's what he's hell bent on, he'll fucking get it

Fuck Putin and his enablers

[Corvus]

US officials say the strike on Dnipro was a medium range missile not an ICBM. To be honest, that would make much more sense than an ICBM.

That's really just a matter of semantics so they don't have to do anything. It was a ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads. That it could only hits parts of Europe and not the US should be irrelevant.


And while all that was going on, the ruble has fallen to be less than a US cent. Despite spending billions of dollars propping it up, it's value has been falling for the last few months back to where it was when they started trying to save it back at the start of the war.

[Kralljin]

I'm sure he has more up his sleeve for sure but ICBM just reeks of desperation, like he's losing badly

Eh, not seeing it.

With Trump elected and the chance of US support ending very quickly, which would make even holding their current territory very difficult for Ukraine, i doubt that Putin is currently reeking of desperation.
War of attrition keeps going and both sides are pretty mauled at this stage, but i don't see Russia on the verge of collapse.

[PhaelixWW]

I'm pretty sure they haven't - there is no legal basis for it yet.

The ship's been detained by the Navy. I feel like there can't be a whole lot of ground between the legal bases for detainment and boarding.

[Iphie]

That's really just a matter of semantics so they don't have to do anything. It was a ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads. That it could only hits parts of Europe and not the US should be irrelevant.


And while all that was going on, the ruble has fallen to be less than a US cent. Despite spending billions of dollars propping it up, it's value has been falling for the last few months back to where it was when they started trying to save it back at the start of the war.

No, come on now, the difference is significant an ICBM can reach further. Besides russia says the same. (now I know we don't trust russia but can we at least agree that we should use words as the are supposed to be used?)

If you want to get really into semantics: Every ballistic missile with a range of 2-300 km can be used intercontinental. Heck 100 km is enough. So yeah, it is important to use words as intended, not just say: "that's just semantics".

[PACOX]

I'm sure he has more up his sleeve for sure but ICBM just reeks of desperation, like he's losing badly and he's actually staring down the barrel of launching actual nukes which he knows results in mutually assured destruction. All over a few hundred kilometers of land in Ukraine.

Sure, devastating for Ukrainians if that happens, but Putler is throwing all his bullshit at Ukraine and still losing badly.

It's not a threat to nuke its flexing capabilities to strike without a counter. The conflict in Gaza has shown us you can "nuke" a population without actually using nukes. Also don't need nukes if you can nullify all your opponents defenses. Its escalation because Putin is in his feelings due to Ukraine having long range missiles. It's tit for tat posturing. Russia has always had a large arsenal of ballistic missile, using them on Ukraine would be a "waste". They want to feign being having the moral high ground and that they are only using their missiles because of outside meddling.


Unfortunately for Ukraine, the incoming US administration would definitely see this escalation as a reason to limit weapon transfers to Ukraine.


If Russia does ever use nukes they will be low yield "tactical nukes". It will communicated via back channels before hand and not expected to illicit the response we've seen in movies - in other words it's not expected that other nuclear nations would retaliate.

The world has failed Ukraine and a lot of warhawks would love for low yield nukes to be permissable. The world (leaders and the strings that pull them) would tell Ukraine to stand down before starting a potential nuclear exchange with Russia.