Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Shadowferal]

Only christmas truce I know of was in 1914, and that wasn't actually sanctioned. The next year didn't have a truce as far as I know.

It was an amazing moment...moments.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce

[Kralljin]

Even in the world wars they would take a break on Christmas day.

Nah they didn't, Christmas truce in WW1 was more of an exception and also was also more localized, French didn't exactly feel like sharing gifts with Germans soldiers on French soil.
Was more common between English and Germans, where the conflict wasn't as personal.

Then again, can also argue that Russians don't celebrate Christmas on the 24th / 25th but in January.
IIRC, Ukraine moved it to December to show they were culturally moving away from Russia.
You can now argue whether it's "okay" to attack on an important holiday of another nation but this naturally made Russia even more likely to attack on this day, for both tactical and political reasons.

[Corvus]

A civilian plane flying from Azerbaijan to Grozny has gone down. Russian authorities are claiming bird strike but there is a lot of talk given the condition of the plane russia may have shot it down with a SAM.

[Shadowferal]

Japan to give Ukraine US$3 billion from proceeds of frozen Russian assets

Not the happiest of Xmas gifts..but

[Popastique]

IIRC, Ukraine moved it to December to show they were culturally moving away from Russia.

Most people here still celebrate Christmas on the 7th of January and will continue to do so because changing your traditions/religion due to some artificial reason is not everyone's cup of tea. Certainly not mine.

[Lahis]

An undersea electricity cable between Finland and Estonia is severed. Chinese ship went above it, again, time after time around the time it got broken. The ship departed from Russia.

And time after time, probably international waters so can't do shit, won't do shit. Perhaps forgotten sea mines from old era could accidentally be found in working condition since plausible deniability is the magic word.

At this point we won't do shit when Russia starts full on assault on Finland and Baltics. It would be escalation.

[Liftbrul]

At this point we won't do shit when Russia starts full on assault on Finland and Baltics. It would be escalation.

From what I gather they've managed to stop and board the ship and confirm its part of the Russian sanction-dodging fleet.

[diller]

because changing your traditions/religion due to some artificial reason is not everyone's cup of tea. Certainly not mine.

Christmas is artificial in the first place as a celebration of Jesus birth.

[Makabreska]

Christmas is artificial in the first place as a celebration of Jesus birth.

Sure, but this artificial celebration has been celebrated at certain date for many centuries. You wont change people habits just like that.

[Corvus]

Azerbaijan is saying the civilian plane was hit by a sam - and the only nation it could have been was russia.

After being hit, the plane was denied emergency landing three times in russia, before being directed across the Caspian sea towards Kazakhstan. It looks like they may have been hoping it would crash in the sea to cover on their crimes. It managed to make Kazakhstan but crashed, killing half the passengers and both pilots, who did an amazing job getting the plane there and saving as many lives as they did.

[alach]

I thought it was suspect at the speed they announced it was birds.
Not to mention russia does have a history in destroying passenger airliners.

Edit;
Euronews confirming it was a Russian sam.
Craziest part of this is watching the video of a flaming jet crashing to the ground and to see people walking away from it.

[Odinfrost]

Airlines should really stop sending planes over Russian airspace.
Seems like a good way to lose vehicles

[PhaelixWW]

Airlines should really stop sending planes over Russian airspace.
Seems like a good way to lose vehicles

Its destination was in Russia.

[Odinfrost]

Its destination was in Russia.

I stand by what I said

[Iphie]

Airlines should really stop sending planes over Russian airspace.
Seems like a good way to lose vehicles

Nah, you'll be safe in a Chinese carrier, russia won't be so stupid to down one of theirs.

[Makabreska]

Nah, you'll be safe in a Chinese carrier, russia won't be so stupid to down one of theirs.

It was apparently a case of plane mistaken identity by untrained orcs, so it wouldn't help either. They thought it was a drone or w/e.

[KrayZ33]

An undersea electricity cable between Finland and Estonia is severed. Chinese ship went above it, again, time after time around the time it got broken. The ship departed from Russia.

And time after time, probably international waters so can't do shit, won't do shit. Perhaps forgotten sea mines from old era could accidentally be found in working condition since plausible deniability is the magic word.

Honest question because I just don't know, but I obviously expect a certain answer already.

Did stuff like this happen before the war frequently?
Because if not, I have no idea why the heck we just take it all the time.
It's not like the repairs are cheap and unproblematic or whatever.

Finland<>Germany
Lithuania<>Sweden
Finland<>Estonia
Sweden<>Denmark

do we just wait until we are blind or something?
It's probably not like these lines themselves will result in a blackout or anything serious by themselves.
But I guess they are not there just for fun.

Can't wait for China to investigate our/othe ships etc. on a whim, while making shit up, and when we deny it, they'll do it anyway.

[diller]

Airlines should really stop sending planes over Russian airspace.
Seems like a good way to lose vehicles

They already are, western airlines do not fly over Russia.

[Iphie]

Honest question because I just don't know, but I obviously expect a certain answer already.

Did stuff like this happen before the war frequently?
Because if not, I have no idea why the heck we just take it all the time.
It's not like the repairs are cheap and unproblematic or whatever.

Finland<>Germany
Lithuania<>Sweden
Finland<>Estonia
Sweden<>Denmark

do we just wait until we are blind or something?
It's probably not like these lines themselves will result in a blackout or anything serious by themselves.
But I guess they are not there just for fun.

Can't wait for China to investigate our/othe ships etc. on a whim, while making shit up, and when we deny it, they'll do it anyway.

russia violated the airspace, did some shit with GPS and so forth but nothing like this in my 14 years in Finland.

[Corvus]

Seoul says Ukraine has captured its first NK soldier. Previous they have put nk losses at 1000, or 10% of the troops sent. Ukraine says it is 3000.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq62qe131d7o