Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iphie]

Crimean War Part 2. Where are the 18th century pieces of artillery?

Give it a week or two, they first need to be pulled out of storage.

[Saradain]

Ukraine advancing some 7km within Kursk...Russia can't even liberate their own territory for all their might that some shitposter here defended in the earliest days of 2022 invasion.

[Poopymonster]

Ukraine has received its first Mirages from France.

Also, the Astrakhan refinery hit the other day will be down for at least 3 months for repairs according to russian sources. It isn't just a refinery - it also is the largest producers of sulphur for explosives in russia.

And numerous videos have started emerging of late, of russian forces being issued with horses and donkeys in the place of trucks for logistics support. Got to feel bad for those animals given the way russia treats anything living, but it is a sign that the russian army is being de-mechanised and just cant replace as fast as is getting destroyed.

That's advanced thinking. You know it's a one way death trip. So you ride you last meal to get to you death.

[Fugus]

*Crosses fingers that Putin goes down soon and on his way down torches all his help in America exposing them all for not helping him sooner or the trove gets exposed and aired globally where not even the US government or media could hope to hide it*

[Flarelaine]

Crimean War Part 2. Where are the 18th century pieces of artillery?

Captured in the first Crimean War and melted down to make Victoria Crosses.

[Corvus]

Russian state media has been forced to address the horse and donkey issue after it became talked about in russia. Turns out they were officially supplied and not just donated. Sort of contradicts the official narrative of military strength and all going well.

The official line is they are being used because it is very difficult supplying front line troops - though how they work better than vehicles is anyone's guess. They didn't even try to say it was due to terrain issues.

Plus if it was good enough for the great patriotic war, it's good enough now.

[Edge-]

Russian state media has been forced to address the horse and donkey issue after it became talked about in russia. Turns out they were officially supplied and not just donated. Sort of contradicts the official narrative of military strength and all going well.

The official line is they are being used because it is very difficult supplying front line troops - though how they work better than vehicles is anyone's guess. They didn't even try to say it was due to terrain issues.

Plus if it was good enough for the great patriotic war, it's good enough now.

those horses and donkeys deserve better.

[Odinfrost]

those horses and donkeys deserve better.

Hopefully the Ukrainian army will capture and send the animals off to a place where they will be safe from abuse.

[alach]

Russia economy could 'collapse completely' in 2025 as vital oil exports hammered

Russia's economy could spiral as vital oil exports are sanctioned and refineries hit by Ukraine in drone strikes.

I think I will start taking wagers. Which extremist will destroy their country's economy first, putin or trump? And will it be purely for greed or vanity.

[Nilinor]

Russia economy could 'collapse completely' in 2025 as vital oil exports hammered


I think I will start taking wagers. Which extremist will destroy their country's economy first, putin or trump? And will it be purely for greed or vanity.

Money still on Putin - even with as much damage as trump is going to do, each individual state has some autonomy to at least mitigate a lot of that damage. Putin controls everything and makes sure to try to keep yes men in charge of sections to keep it that way.

[Iphie]

Russia economy could 'collapse completely' in 2025 as vital oil exports hammered


I think I will start taking wagers. Which extremist will destroy their country's economy first, putin or trump? And will it be purely for greed or vanity.

This isn't what MAD was about back when I was in Highschool.

[Dontrike]

Russia economy could 'collapse completely' in 2025 as vital oil exports hammered


I think I will start taking wagers. Which extremist will destroy their country's economy first, putin or trump? And will it be purely for greed or vanity.

Won't Russia run out of money for the war sometimes this November? Could have sworn I remember reading that.

[Bwgmon]

Won't Russia run out of money for the war sometimes this November? Could have sworn I remember reading that.

If I recall correctly, that estimate was before Ukraine started hitting Russia's oil production, and definitely long before Russia started having to deploy people on horses and donkeys. It may well be sooner than that now.

[Fugus]

What do you say the odds of Trump and Musk directing funds to Russia to keep them going, potentially from the US Treasury though the back doors Musk was attempting to install?

[Kaleredar]

What do you say the odds of Trump and Musk directing funds to Russia to keep them going, potentially from the US Treasury though the back doors Musk was attempting to install?

I don't know if they could get enough meaningful money through to help Russia in the short term.

Russia's problem isn't just lack of money, it's lack of manpower and equipment, the ability to maintain it, the ability to deploy it, and the ability to defend it. Money helps with all of those things... eventually... but definitely not immediately. Their money-generating infrastructure (oil and gas) is under constant attack from Ukraine and sanctioning from countries that matter for its sale (In Europe, Musk and Trump can't do shit about that) and shadow money wont fix up that situation either.

Doesn't mean Trump and co. wont try helping Russia, of course, but as of lately they seem to be pretty hands-off on the Russia/Ukraine thing. Which knowing them is probably the best outcome we could hope for.

[Fugus]

I don't know if they could get enough meaningful money through to help Russia in the short term.

Russia's problem isn't just lack of money, it's lack of manpower and equipment, the ability to maintain it, the ability to deploy it, and the ability to defend it. Money helps with all of those things... eventually... but definitely not immediately. Their money-generating infrastructure (oil and gas) is under constant attack from Ukraine and sanctioning from countries that matter for its sale (In Europe, Musk and Trump can't do shit about that) and shadow money wont fix up that situation either.

Doesn't mean Trump and co. wont try helping Russia, of course, but as of lately they seem to be pretty hands-off on the Russia/Ukraine thing. Which knowing them is probably the best outcome we could hope for.

Well, Trump and Musk could realistically siphon off 3 billion per day from the treasury and generate an extra trillion dollars in a year which he could believably pass off as a normal Trump deficit increase.

If even a third of that per day made it to Russia, that would help a ton I would think in helping hire men and secure supplies, especially if he works to pull US aid publicly or try and help them directly afterwards.

Hoping that doesn’t happen but would be a decent consolation prize to watch the guy who helped Trump fall before Trump did. Doubly so if he gets pissed and exposes the whole thing in their collapse.

[Ivanstone]

Hoping that doesn’t happen but would be a decent consolation prize to watch the guy who helped Trump fall before Trump did. Doubly so if he gets pissed and exposes the whole thing in their collapse.

Honestly, I'm not 100% sure how aligned Trump an Putin are at the moment. Putin is a "loser". He can't even take over a neighbouring country. Zelensky is a "winner" with resources.

And replacing all of that donated equipment is a solid amount of domestic manufacturing.

[Fugus]

Honestly, I'm not 100% sure how aligned Trump an Putin are at the moment. Putin is a "loser". He can't even take over a neighbouring country. Zelensky is a "winner" with resources.

And replacing all of that donated equipment is a solid amount of domestic manufacturing.

Yeah, what I mean is Putin going down and on his way out torches all those who he helped that didn't help him at this point. He will have nothing left to lose at that point and would throw the world into even more chaos on his way down when all those powerful people have their actions they did for that power drug into the light.

Can you imagine Putin going down and then we have videos of the pee tapes if they existed leaked along with all the communications between him, Trump, Musk, Carlson and got knows who else? To have that treasure trove of compromising material just put out for the world to see.

[gondrin]

Russia economy could 'collapse completely' in 2025 as vital oil exports hammered


I think I will start taking wagers. Which extremist will destroy their country's economy first, putin or trump? And will it be purely for greed or vanity.

I'll go with Putin. Honestly, if it devolves down to the point where Trump does enough damage, each state will pretty much be its own thing seeing as how the US Constitution, the thing that allows the federal government to exist in the first place, would no longer be valid. The US Constitution is an agreement on how the Federal Government is setup and what it is allowed to do. That is it. Otherwise, the US is literally 50 sovereign territories that can mostly function without an actual central governing body. Some far better than others but the point still stands.

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Yeah, what I mean is Putin going down and on his way out torches all those who he helped that didn't help him at this point. He will have nothing left to lose at that point and would throw the world into even more chaos on his way down when all those powerful people have their actions they did for that power drug into the light.

Can you imagine Putin going down and then we have videos of the pee tapes if they existed leaked along with all the communications between him, Trump, Musk, Carlson and got knows who else? To have that treasure trove of compromising material just put out for the world to see.

And yet, somehow, MAGA will just start doing such things themselves and go along with it or just outright deny.

[Dontrike]

Honestly, I'm not 100% sure how aligned Trump an Putin are at the moment. Putin is a "loser".

Makes you wonder if one last play Putin has to make Trump give him money is releasing even one of the things that he's had over Tangerini Mussolini this whole time, something that even Trump couldn't escape from easily.