Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Dontrike]

How much do you think Trump wanted to surrender the US to Russia during their last phone call?

[Draco-Onis]

How much do you think Trump wanted to surrender the US to Russia during their last phone call?

What makes you think he hasn't already? All that data Elon Musk is stealing isn't going to stay in his data centers.

[Nymrohd]

Sanctions have their uses, but all this talk about destroying the economy of a country through them...well I have to say did that work for Iran?

It also minimized their ability to project force and slowed down their nuclear program immensely. Oh they could absolutely fund militias all over the Middle East and even further but could they engage in actual military adventurism like Russia did? A properly sanctioned Russia would not be able to maintain the invasion, simple as that. It could fund little green men, not an actual invasion.

That said, we are all fucked. I need to pick up Mandarin again

[hellhamster]

Could you maybe link the article because without context these numbers mean whatever anyone wants.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...omepage-europe

[Edge-]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...omepage-europe

https://archive.is/0dVoI

Archive link so people can actually read it.

[hellhamster]

https://archive.is/0dVoI

Archive link so people can actually read it.

Thanks, I suck at these.

[Lahis]

russia has made it repeatedly clear that the absolute minimum they will accept in any peace deal is a ban on Ukraine ever joining NATO, the disarmament of the Ukrainian army, a lifting of all sanctions, and all the land they have claimed, a large part of which they have never occupied - which I think includes the land bridge all the way to Transnistria. Ukraine can not accept that, for obvious reasons. And russia will never accept whatever Trump tries to foist on them.

And even if somehow peace is arranged, russia needs to be at war otherwise its economy will collapse. They won't need to leave a million men in Ukraine. They will have to pick a fresh target to keep feeding the war machine - so all of russia's neighbours must start to prepare for that. Georgia would probably be the most obvious next victim.

Trump is not foisting anything on Russia. He is just reciting Russia's demands to Ukraine.

[gondrin]

So, the question begs to be ask is why? Why the hell strike Chernobyl? Especially the part where radiation is at its worst. I mean, it won't affect very many people in Ukraine and affect more in Belarus if the radiation spreads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting..._on_chernobyl/

[Lahis]

So, the question begs to be ask is why? Why the hell strike Chernobyl? Especially the part where radiation is at its worst. I mean, it won't affect very many people in Ukraine and affect more in Belarus if the radiation spreads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting..._on_chernobyl/

Just to be plain evil.

[Dezerte]

Knowing Russia I feel like it could be either malice or incompetence, maybe even both.

[Lahis]

Knowing Russia I feel like it could be either malice or incompetence, maybe even both.

"Incompetent malice" really encapsulates the Russian psyche.

[alach]

Probably just aiming for another kindergarten and missed.

[Corvus]

Could also be more nuclear blackmail, a not so subtle reminder that if they don't get their way they can do worse - especially as Trump would do nothing about it.

[Gabriel]

So, the question begs to be ask is why? Why the hell strike Chernobyl? Especially the part where radiation is at its worst. I mean, it won't affect very many people in Ukraine and affect more in Belarus if the radiation spreads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting..._on_chernobyl/

This is nuclear warfare. I'd not lose a single ounce of sleep if someone decided to pre-emptively blow Russia's nuclear arsenal to hell.

[Draco-Onis]

This is nuclear warfare. I'd not lose a single ounce of sleep if someone decided to pre-emptively blow Russia's nuclear arsenal to hell.

You probably should since the fallout from such a large explosion would cover most if not all of Europe.

[Gabriel]

You probably should since the fallout from such a large explosion would cover most if not all of Europe.

You're right. Let's wait for Russia to set Chernobyl on fire for the second time.

[hellhamster]

So, the question begs to be ask is why? Why the hell strike Chernobyl? Especially the part where radiation is at its worst. I mean, it won't affect very many people in Ukraine and affect more in Belarus if the radiation spreads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting..._on_chernobyl/

Easy, extortion/blackmail. Do what we want or else.

I was expecting Chernobyl to play a role in this after Trump or Harris got in power, but I was kinda hoping they would forget about it. It's a horrible negotiating tactic, threatening with nuclear meltdowns has got to be the lowest of the low.

[Gabriel]

So, the question begs to be ask is why? Why the hell strike Chernobyl? Especially the part where radiation is at its worst. I mean, it won't affect very many people in Ukraine and affect more in Belarus if the radiation spreads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting..._on_chernobyl/

Because if Russia can't have Ukraine, why should anyone else have it either?

[Sunseeker]

You're right. Let's wait for Russia to set Chernobyl on fire for the second time.

Trading one nuclear nightmare for another isnt exactly sound logic.

Besides, as I recall, what remains of Russias nuclear arsenal is still quite large. If anyone could just "blow it up" before Russia had a chance to retaliate with said nuclear weapons, dont you think theyd have done it?

I mean there was this whole "Cold War" thing where the issue was that we couldnt just do that. Maybe you heard about it?

[Edge-]

So, the question begs to be ask is why? Why the hell strike Chernobyl? Especially the part where radiation is at its worst. I mean, it won't affect very many people in Ukraine and affect more in Belarus if the radiation spreads.

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting..._on_chernobyl/

This demands a serious response, but I'm unsure if nations are willing to give a serious response. The US surely won't, sadly.