1. #43581
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Oh please.


    They’ll never mention this happened.

    The next time @Somewhatconcerned shows up it’ll be to post some meaningless nonsense about illegal immigrant arrests he likes. @tehdang reserves his posts for complaining about Biden not following the “spirit” of Supreme Court decisions about debt forgiveness or some similar tripe.

    I think all of the other “pro-conservative” posters around here are actually Russian trolls. And that’s the greatest compliment I’ll ever pay to tehdang and somewhatconcerned
    It's what the majority voted for.

    Yes Trump isn't letting Zelensky have much say, but his stated goal has been to end the conflict, not to prolong an endless stalemate.

    Europe can step up, too.

  2. #43582
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    It's what the majority voted for.

    Yes Trump isn't letting Zelensky have much say, but his stated goal has been to end the conflict, not to prolong an endless stalemate.

    Europe can step up, too.
    but he's not doing anything to end the conflict roflmao

    that's literally what today was, doing nothing to end the conflict he said he'd end in 24 hours omegalul

  3. #43583
    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Have you actually paid attention to the reaction outside of magats? He has basically the rest of the free world 100% standing behind him now and bringing heat down on the toddler claiming to be president.
    Why should the US care what the rest of the world thinks? We will carve our own path.

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    The bait is getting more and more low effort each passing day

  5. #43585
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Why should the US care what the rest of the world thinks? We will carve our own path.
    We exist in the world and our economy is tied closely to global trade.

    I swear every day is like MAGA folks first day on planet earth.

  6. #43586
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Why should the US care what the rest of the world thinks? We will carve our own path.
    I think you mean dig our own grave.

  7. #43587
    Quote Originally Posted by Nastard View Post
    I think you mean dig our own grave.
    MAGA folks don't realize just how much the global community comes together after local crisis. Just how many other countries send emergency crews during disaster wildfires or floods to help support the US because that's what friends do. Or like a hostile nation invading its neighbor.

    It's wild seeing them brag about how little they understand how reality works.

  8. #43588
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    And what did he get out of it?

    Sometimes you just need to be smart, rather than right. I think this is probably the second Zelensky fuckup of this kind, he got a good track record overall, but this was a clear mistake.

    And yes, he is very correct that whatever agreement signed with Russia would not last for long, but he does not really have any viable alternative choice at this time.
    What was the smart play here supposed to be? Trump's plan is to extort Ukraine for rare earth minerals and then sell them out to Russia.

  9. #43589
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    That's not likely to happen due to the sheer size of the US economy however we will go into a deep recession dragging the world along with us.
    I'm pretty sure it only takes OPEC to decide every new contract they sign shall be in EUR (or CNY) to end USD as the worlds backup currency.

  10. #43590
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    but he's not doing anything to end the conflict roflmao

    that's literally what today was, doing nothing to end the conflict he said he'd end in 24 hours omegalul
    I'm willing to bet a deal is reached in the next 6 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    I'm pretty sure it only takes OPEC to decide every new contract they sign shall be in EUR (or CNY) to end USD as the worlds backup currency.
    Which will never, ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    It's what the majority voted for.
    Still not a majority.
    R.I.P. Democracy


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    and genius is that genius has its limits."

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  12. #43592
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    I'm willing to bet a deal is reached in the next 6 months.
    And if not, you delete your account forever.
    “There you stand, the good man doing nothing. And while evil triumphs, and your rigid pacifism crumbles to blood stained dust, the only victory afforded to you is that you stuck true to your guns.”

  13. #43593
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    I'm willing to bet a deal is reached in the next 6 months.
    I'll advise moderation. You don't want to overdose on hopium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I'll advise moderation. You don't want to overdose on hopium.
    That ship has sailed, I'm afraid.
    R.I.P. Democracy


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  15. #43595
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Which will never, ever happen.
    That's straight delusional talk nothing last forever, if the US is not longer the leader of the free world OPEC has no reason to not change their stance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    I'm pretty sure it only takes OPEC to decide every new contract they sign shall be in EUR (or CNY) to end USD as the worlds backup currency.
    These types of changes take years mainly central banks switching to more balanced baskets of currencies instead of being heavy USD. OPEC nations primarily want to stay out of this so they will take the wait and see approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Which will never, ever happen.
    It's a shame Trump supporters are, as a rule, fairly illiterate, the poem Ozymandias has a lot to teach.

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    Just when I think I couldn't be more embarrassed by my country, Trump comes along to make things worse.
    Princesses can kill knights to rescue dragons.

  18. #43598
    So when will USA invade Ukraine to claim their minerals and gas? Clearly teh deal is off so now it is time for violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    So we should give Putin everything he wants, forever and ever?
    Pretty much. EU doesn't have the guts to actually fight back. Especially now that USA supports Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Oh please.


    They’ll never mention this happened.
    MAGA will remember this moment and celebrate it for years to come. This is exactly the kind of behaviour they voted for.

  19. #43599
    Quote Originally Posted by Somewhatconcerned View Post
    Why should the US care what the rest of the world thinks? We will carve our own path.
    My dude we all know you are posting from Ru lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    We exist in the world and our economy is tied closely to global trade.

    I swear every day is like MAGA folks first day on planet earth.
    They don't read or understand history. The US became a powerful nation because it embraced the global stage. The modern US wouldn't be what it is without managing its global image and position. Counterpoint; just see isolated US.

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