Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Iliena]

I start to feel afraid for my safety. I can't believe these were our allies all along.

I suggest you turn off your computer and go and hide under your bed as the real world seems a bit much for you!

[Jastall]

They really believe it is all lies made up to make Russia look bad. I've met plenty of people who think like that. Honestly I just don't bother to engage cause there is not much you can do about it.

There's a group of people in the West that believe in appearing more reasonable by casting doubts on European/American policies, which is something I can understand. The problem is they often veer straight into believing every Russian or Chinese propaganda outlet wholesale without giving them anywhere near the scrutiny given to Western ones. Being a skeptic is one thing, being an overly selective one just makes you a shill.

[Elder Millennial]

Did I ever say that what the Russians are doing is ethical?

I said that the EU doesn't take decisions based on ethical values but rather interests.

So you are going with the "Some fucking war that happened before the EU existed whataboutism."

Trump made another annoucement again, he is committed to same line as last time and he will make another big annoucement tomorrow. The EU leaders have lost it, they are paralyzed. I can't believe they are that useless. If they believe in ethical values then they will intervene in Ukraine no matter the cost.

Trump big mad that the rest of NATO (funny how you are forgetting about the UK, Canada and Turkey, which aren't EU members), have remained ethically consistent on the issue, even when it's no longer convenient, literally fucking proving the polar fucking opposite of your claims.

I start to feel afraid for my safety. I can't believe these were our allies all along.

More Russian propaganda. Russia won't do shit, because it can't do shit thanks to the Ukrainians still holding the line for all of us.

[Timester]

This is not rocket science. Russia just need to get the fuck out of Ukraine and peace is achieved.

That's it, that simple. Bad actors trying to convice the opposite is just... waste of time.

[Edge-]

The EU leaders have lost it, they are paralyzed.

So paralyzed they gathered together in an emergency meeting following the disastrous US meeting.

I do hope the turnips are at least fully grown, otherwise this would be embarassing.

[SAY HER NAME]

Did I ever say that what the Russians are doing is ethical?

I said that the EU doesn't take decisions based on ethical values but rather interests.

Trump made another annoucement again, he is committed to same line as last time and he will make another big annoucement tomorrow. The EU leaders have lost it, they are paralyzed. I can't believe they are that useless. If they believe in ethical values then they will intervene in Ukraine no matter the cost.

I start to feel afraid for my safety. I can't believe these were our allies all along.

Bro remember when the EU was actively funding Russias war efforts during an entire year by purchasing Russian gas. They had to be forced to drop when someone bombed the pipelines. I dont have faith on the EU doing shit

[Timester]

So paralyzed they gathered together in an emergency meeting following the disastrous US meeting.

I do hope the turnips are at least fully grown, otherwise this would be embarassing.

Even Meloni is there. It was so bad that forced Meloni to do a 180.

[Elder Millennial]

Bro remember when the EU was actively funding Russias war efforts during an entire year by purchasing Russian gas. They had to be forced to drop when someone bombed the pipelines. I dont have faith on the EU doing shit

Which is why in the picture above you might notice the British Prime Minister, the Canadian Prime Minister and the Turkish Foreign Minister and a Norwegian representative alongside the President of Ukraine...none of which are EU states.

[Timester]

Which is why in the picture above you might notice the British Prime Minister, the Canadian Prime Minister and the Turkish Foreign Minister and a Norwegian representative alongside the President of Ukraine...none of which are EU states.

And the Secretary General of NATO.

[Vampiregenesis]

We've already seen.

You're denying reality. To support genocide. The same way you support Nazis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_...-Ukrainian_War

This isn't a question of whether this is happening. It's known to be happening. It's not a matter of opinion, you're just grossly and willfully uninformed or, more likely, just openly dishonest.

Ok good. 700k? thats a lot

Then why the Russians are promoting this in their news? (I don't watch it)

I don't deny that the transfers were made, I saw it in the news. First I didn't know they Russified the children and that was considered a genocide because it was not mentioned (they mentioned it as war crime instead) and also I didn't know the conditions under which the children were transfered and of course west propaganda can make it look much worse. If I was a soldier on a conflict zone and found an abandoned child somewhere then I would move it somewhere safe, if my country was the only option then I would do that, that's common sense for me. I would of course transfer it to its real parents later if possible.

If they intentionally abducted them after killing or detaining their parents and refuse to return them then ok, that's a different thing.

[Timester]

If they intentionally abducted them then ok, that's a different thing.

Which part of "invading a country and taking their children" is not intentional?

If they intentionally abducted them after killing their parents then ok, that's a different thing.

Your ninja edit made it even worse, fucking LOL.

[Edge-]

and of course west propaganda can make it look much worse.

You literally can't stop yourself, huh.

[Elder Millennial]

If they intentionally abducted them after killing or detaining their parents and refuse to return them then ok, that's a different thing.

One more time.

It doesn't matter what happened to their parents or not, or whether they were taken from orphanages or not (a lot of them were, as the Russians intentionally targeted orphanages with the kids sometimes only escaping by being hidden by locals in the occupied territories). Russia takes those kids and tries to Russify them, it's a targeted state policy carried out by the Russian military and Russian occupation authorities.

JUST.LIKE.EVERY.OTHER.WARCRIME.

Like the mass graves, the murder of PoWs, the rapes, the torture centers etc.

[Timester]

One more time.

It doesn't matter what happened to their parents or not, or whether they were taken from orphanages or not (a lot of them were, as the Russians intentionally targeted orphanages with the kids sometimes only escaping by being hidden by locals in the occupied territories). Russia takes those kids and tries to Russify them.

He ninja edited twice and made worse after each edit. Can't grasp the simple concept of "Russia illegally invade a neighbour, killed people and took children without permission".

[Vampiregenesis]

Which part of "invading a country and taking their children" is not intentional?




Your ninja edit made it even worse, fucking LOL.

The part where despite being the aggressor and invader, you are responsible enough to evacuate an area that came under your control because it will become a conflict zone. Ukraine could not possibly evacuate an area that came under the control of Russia, only Russia could do that. If the wiki article is correct then that's not what really happened so yes, that's a crime.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Sorry, couldn't hear you with Putin's dick in your mouth.

[Timester]

The part where despite being the aggressor and invader, you are responsible enough to evacuate an area that came under your control because it will become a conflict zone. Ukraine could not possibly evacuate an area that came under the control of Russia, only Russia could do that. If the wiki article is correct then that's not what really happened so yes, that's a crime.

There is not part.

Repeat after me, Russia invaded a neighbour and took children without permission. That's dictionary definition of "KIDNAP" (besides all other things also happening).

[Vampiregenesis]

So paralyzed they gathered together in an emergency meeting following the disastrous US meeting.

I do hope the turnips are at least fully grown, otherwise this would be embarassing.

Well, I will leave aside that Hakan Fidan, the best supporter of Al Qaida who genocides alawites and kurds in Syria is there as protector of "ethical values"

After the meeting, Starmer said that this can't work without the US assistance. How much more laughable can these leaders be?

[Vampiregenesis]

There is not part.

Repeat after me, Russia invaded a neighbour and took children without permission. That's dictionary definition of "KIDNAP" (besides all other things also happening).

Could they send them to free Ukrainian territory right away? if yes then sure. You have to evacuate the area if there will be a conflict.

[Volatilis]

It's good that Europe are finally stepping up instead of letting Democrats/Biden paying for it.

People will hate on Trump because of the way it came about but people are deluded if they think these ego maniacs don't have shouting matches at each other behind closed doors.

Trump riding putins dick is pretty short sighted though because Trump won't always be president and you can't assume putin will honor any deal because he's proven he does his own thing